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Hachiroku 09-13-2011 11:57 AM

PICS: Subaru BRZ Technology Concept at 2011 Frankfurt IAA
 
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No new information folks, other than the standard info so far. Won't be long anyway. Hopefully see this car's reveal at Tokyo Motor Show in early Dec.

But here's plenty of pics at least :)



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ft86cbx 09-13-2011 12:00 PM

Nice one :thumbsup:

Cant believe no new info though.

Levi 09-13-2011 12:09 PM

Thanks for the pics.


I don't see what is different. I suppose 17 inch rims will be standard. Wonder if there'll be any optional 18 inch rims.

MiguelAE86 09-13-2011 12:11 PM

I'm praying to the gods of J-Land for a brochure leak sometime near November! That'd be perfect!

VenomRush 09-13-2011 12:18 PM

whats with the scaled down model?

Mr.Jay 09-13-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 59527)
whats with the scaled down model?


They did that with the MK1 FRS as well just as a cash grab from the crazies (us?) who have been following the car and wait a piece of its history I guess


WOW seriously Subaru and Toyota why no info?!?!?

AlxSTi 09-13-2011 12:41 PM

Ha.. I hope the motor comes polished like that. :rolleyes:

ichitaka05 09-13-2011 12:45 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...3&d=1315924693
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...9&d=1315924779
Holly ****!!!!

Am I seeing that engine correctly?!?!?!?!?!?! WOW If that really comes like that, it'll be really interesting!!!!!!!!

and I hope it's not display mistake!!!!

themish 09-13-2011 12:46 PM

150 hp?

Neutral_Eyes 09-13-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlxSTi (Post 59542)
Ha.. I hope the motor comes polished like that. :rolleyes:

Brake rotors, too! :party0030:

fab_sub 09-13-2011 12:47 PM

Cool but
When we can look under the white sheet at the back of the room ?
For look at the design BRZ

madfast 09-13-2011 12:47 PM

Looks like the new engine. throttle body facing the front...

cozykat 09-13-2011 12:50 PM

very clean! I wonder if the intake manifold will remain reversed in the BRZ.

So the oil filter will be on top now?? interesting.

speed-wiz 09-13-2011 12:50 PM

Really fantastic detailing on that display.

madfast 09-13-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themish (Post 59545)
150 hp?

that's the FB20. the new engine is in the glass body. no specs

ichitaka05 09-13-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madfast (Post 59551)
Looks like the new engine. throttle body facing the front...

Yup, that's what I've commented... now it's easier to do this
http://aclassblog.files.wordpress.co..._engine_02.jpg

no_name 09-13-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themish (Post 59545)
150 hp?

Those engine specs are for Subaru's new boxer (FB I guess). Toyota has specified that the FT86 engine is based on the Subie but it's not the same.

RRnold 09-13-2011 12:56 PM

Hachi, thanks for the update. Is there an unveiling of the concept
like the Scion FR-S @ the NYIAS or is this it for Subaru?!

WolfpackS2k 09-13-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi (Post 59522)
Thanks for the pics.


I don't see what is different. I suppose 17 inch rims will be standard. Wonder if there'll be any optional 18 inch rims.

Hopefully the wheel wells aren't huge, b/c 17 is all you need on a car this size. 18" wheels are heavier and 18" tires cost more. No thanks.

Dragonitti 09-13-2011 12:57 PM

*sigh*....it's shiny I guess..

no_name 09-13-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 59567)
Hopefully the wheel wells aren't huge, b/c 17 is all you need on a car this size. 18" wheels are heavier and 18" tires cost more. No thanks.

Totally agree. In fact I'd rather see stock 16 or even 15 just to keep it cheap.

And as for that engine, it's really nice to see the oil filter on top. Thank you Subaru.

Kiteless 09-13-2011 01:10 PM

I guess both companies are maybe in agreement not to let out any specs till Tokyo. And I agree with Dragonitti... Shiny!

Giccin 09-13-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 59558)
Yup, that's what I've commented... now it's easier to do this
http://aclassblog.files.wordpress.co..._engine_02.jpg

Whats that. O_O

ichitaka05 09-13-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 59586)
Whats that. O_O

WRC STI engine bay. Let me find easier to see ver

K, when we change the TMIC to FMIC it looks like this
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/impor...fmic-04wrx.jpghttp://rusubaru.com/wp-content/uploa...fmic_large.jpg

cut down that long pipe and less lag, you wanna rotate the throttle body 180 like this
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/749...8engine031.jpg

Most WRC STI do it and also some of time attack STI also
http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/254...engine_bay.jpg

williamt2 09-13-2011 01:36 PM

I won't buy less than 200 hp.
God Bless, Bill Ivins

Chewy 09-13-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_name (Post 59573)
Totally agree. In fact I'd rather see stock 16 or even 15 just to keep it cheap.

And as for that engine, it's really nice to see the oil filter on top. Thank you Subaru.

+1

Traum 09-13-2011 02:14 PM

Bling Bling~!!! The only thing missing is, the real car needs to come with 22" bling bling rims instead of those wimpy 17's. :bellyroll:

On a different note, the standard 215/45/17 tire size means both 235/40/17 and 245/40/17 will work well.:happyanim:

Lordharding 09-13-2011 02:23 PM

Can we get it in the Orange like the Sv
Would look fantastic

serialk11r 09-13-2011 02:26 PM

Uh oh those 2 engines look like they have the same dimensions, there goes my hope for continuously variable valve lift, unless they did something completely crazy.

But thanks for the pics! So shiny lol.

Allch Chcar 09-13-2011 02:27 PM

Hachi, always a treat to see your pictures :thanks:. But I see that you forgot to watermark :(.


I saved them for later viewing. Hard to see through all the shinyness but at least I can see the sparkplugs now.


Quote:

Originally Posted by williamt2 (Post 59590)
I won't buy less than 200 hp.
God Bless, Bill Ivins

I can almost guarantee that if you're expecting xxx amount of HP you will be disappointed. This car is getting a N/A 2.0L. I know that they were shooting for 12lbs per PS(2% more than BHP) way back but I am counting on it being a light weight chassis more so than a higher powered engine :iono:.

Traum 09-13-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 59567)
Hopefully the wheel wells aren't huge, b/c 17 is all you need on a car this size. 18" wheels are heavier and 18" tires cost more. No thanks.

The Toyota concept comes with 215/40/18 along with a multi piston factory big brakes option. It's hard to tell for certain what kind of clearance that BBK will require, but from the looks of it, I am not convinced that 17" wheels will cut it.

That is honestly kind of sad because I think high performance tire selection is better with the various widths in 17".

madfast 09-13-2011 02:31 PM

subaru guys, any sign of the dreaded TGV in the display???

ichitaka05 09-13-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madfast (Post 59610)
subaru guys, any sign of the dreaded TGV in the display???

Sadly can't see... well, I can't seen em anyways. Other Subie experts might correct me wrong

RRnold 09-13-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 59589)
WRC STI engine bay. Let me find easier to see ver

K, when we change the TMIC to FMIC it looks like this
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/impor...fmic-04wrx.jpghttp://rusubaru.com/wp-content/uploa...fmic_large.jpg

cut down that long pipe and less lag, you wanna rotate the throttle body 180 like this
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/749...8engine031.jpg

Most WRC STI do it and also some of time attack STI also
http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/254...engine_bay.jpg

Nice! Don't mean to open up the flood gates but could mean a possible turbo setup later on down the road?

Also, I like where the oil filter is positioned! It's like of like the current Tacoma and makes changing the oil a breeze.

http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Article...2005tacoma.jpg

Cinthetyk 09-13-2011 04:25 PM

Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, but I rather like the oil filter being next to the drain plug on my RS. Having said that, I don't mean that the new design is bad; it's just different than what I am used to. If there is any benefit other than accessibility, someone please let me know.

Matador 09-13-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 59607)
I can almost guarantee that if you're expecting xxx amount of HP you will be disappointed. This car is getting a N/A 2.0L. I know that they were shooting for 12lbs per PS(2% more than BHP) way back but I am counting on it being a light weight chassis more so than a higher powered engine :iono:.

Achieving that would make me very happy. Providing of course it's under 2750lbs.

Streetice 09-13-2011 05:10 PM

For one thing THATS ALOT OF CHROME!:eyebulge: haha!
When I got the email this morning I was hoping that the BRZ to have let say a real body. Whats the hold up we now have a concept of the FRS and two concepts of the FT-86 that have even been featured in Gran Trusmio 5 (my reason for lovin the car) now I know the ins and out of showing a car before its offical final model but why do I keeep seeing this glass case.:mad0260:

If they want to keep me glocking at it well they did a good job because I so desperately want to see what the body will look like and we all know the end model will look nothing like this glass cover....or will it.

Abflug 09-13-2011 05:25 PM

Thank you!

ichitaka05 09-13-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 59641)
Also, I like where the oil filter is positioned! It's like of like the current Tacoma and makes changing the oil a breeze.

C'mon, you don't like to go down on the ground and get dirty? :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll:

Random_Art 09-13-2011 05:44 PM

Still gotta get under there to get the oil out of the oil pan. Unless you want to get a straw and suck it out through the the oil filler spot.


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