Anyone who had a Scion tC regret switching to the FR-S?
 

I'm really struggling making the decision to give up my tC for this car. I love the look and feel of the FR-S, but I'm apprehensive about giving up a vehicle I've had 0 issues with over the past 5 years (2008 scion tC with 45k miles). I guess I'm worried I might encounter issues with a 1st-series vehicle, making me long for my tC back. Can I get some input from you former tC owners that gave it up for an FR-S?

I don't have a tC, but if I were in your position I would keep the tC and wait a year (possibly even two) to get all the bugs fixed from a first gen model. You have time on your side, remember that.

I switched from a 2007 tC to the FR-S. I do miss the cargo room I had on the tC, but the FR-S is by far a more sporty and fun car. I would agree with Books to maybe wait a year, get the tC paid off and wait and see.

+1, I agree... Although my FR-S is treating me good so far... Hopefully it continues this way.

I'd say stay with the decision you're more comfortable with... If you've been fully happy with the TC, and you're really not in the need for a 'sports car experience'... I'd hold off until you really feel it's the right time. :)

I am coming from a 2005 scion tC supercharged. Made it up to 234,000 miles before the motor gave out. So i was forced to get a new car. But i do not regret getting my BRZ at all. IN my opinion if you haven't had any issues with the car you should just keep it. BTW not all first gen cars will have issues. My tC was one of the early first gen ones and never had any real issues out of it outside of normal wear and tear.

Being a previous tC owner, I've come to realize that the tC and the FR-S are two completely different cars. Though they're both small sport compact spirited drivers, the tC is more practical for day to day activities. Having said that, the FR-S is definitely more fun to drive.

I gave my '05 tC to my brother back in '10, and purchased a Lexus, but have now gone back full circle to pick up an FR-S, and although there are a few kinks that still need to be worked out, I don't regret my purchase one bit! After going from an FWD to RWD car, I don't think I could go back to FWD any time soon.

If you can wait, then I would wait for the '14 model FR-S to come out; I personally couldn't wait because my Lexus was slowly breaking down on me (it had 200k miles), so that made my decision quite easy. Good luck w/ your decision in moving forward!

as with everyone else, i came from a second gen (2012) tC.
I dont regret it, but they are different cars, i defintely miss the room in the TC but thats also because i carry a babyseat around.

But no regrets. FRS feels a lot better than the TC overall

Came from a tC1. Hell, no, I don't regret it. Not one bit. The FR-S is, for me, better in every possible way.

If you are happy with the tC, I would stay with it for a bit longer while the dust settles from the FRS launch. Esp if you have no immediate need to get rid of the tC.

Wait till next year for a 2014 and left Toyota/Subaru work out the bugs.

thanks for the replies guys. And someone mentioned getting the tc paid off.. It already is. Me switching to the FR-S would merely be me wanting the sports car feel. Financially, I can make the switch. I just don't want to pick up the FR-S and start longing for the tC..

Notably these things:
-steering wheel mounted stereo control
-cargo space
-the premier (upgraded pioneer) stereo in the tC. Not sure how I feel about the bespoke.
-no mechanical issues (i've seen some complaints about clunking sounds when shifting and various other things with the FR-S).

Came from a 07 tC and i dont regret my decision on trading it it for my FRS. Had about 100,000 and still gave me about 7200 for it.... There is a thing called a "warranty" so why worry about bugs that need to be fixed when youll have them fixed for free!

Okay you can upgrade stereo to your liking.... Sound quality in FRs isnt bad due to 8 speakers in it. Yes subs are gonna be a must but your poineer deck comes "pre-amped" (first ever that unique audio has ever seen).... Are steering wheel functionality a key thing into buying a car these days? i dont believe sooo. If you dont like bespoke dont upgrade = ). And with mechanical issues, there is a thing called, a "warranty"

I don't miss the steering wheel audio controls. I thought I would, but the stereo in the FR-S is right there next to you, and everything you need quickly (volume, skip forward/back) is on the extreme left side of the head unit, within easy reach.

How often do you carry a lot of stuff? I found I hardly ever needed it. The tC's hatch does make it easier to get things in and out, but with the back seats in the FR-S dropped there's plenty of room back there. The rear seats in the tC are much more spacious, but are you going to use the rear seats? If not, just call the FR-S a two-seater and keep the backseat down all the time.

My previous car was tC2. I can say for sure that tC2 manual trans had more clunking than FR-S. Compared to tC2 manual trans, FR-S manual trans is so smooth. I can say this trans is the smoothest trans I've driven.

I don't have any mechanical issues with FR-S. I have only minor issues like tail light condensation (you wouldn't have this problem since it's already handled at the factory line) and rear deck popping noise (there should be an easy fix by the time you get this problem). But if you have no issue with your tC1 and don't have a reason that you have to switch the car now, I'd recommend you to wait for a little longer until you stop seeing many problems popping up. But to me, FR-S feels much better to own and it was worth for me to get it even if there are chances I get problems.

if you are afraid of problems wait the year and buy the 2nd gen or RS version

I do I would have paid it off last week ough now 6 more years

I drove an '07 tc for a couple of years.. it feels like a Camry compared to the FR-S. If you want more sportiness, trade the tc in immediately! The only person(s) who'll regret it are the ones unfortunate enough to have to ride in your back seats. :D

You however, will be :burnrubber:

That's an apt description, and it makes sense, given that it's a Camry engine sitting in the Euro Camry chassis (Avensis).

Has it been confirmed there will be an RS version, and if so, when will it be released?

NO. Don't bother with this. From the video review I saw, it seems, to me, like it's a complete and utter waste of money. I'm not one to care about an upgraded deck, so I have my stock unit with no plans of swapping it out any time soon.

Only confirmation I've heard is that, "It's a Scion and there's always a RS version."

Pretty sure I watched the same review, and he mostly focused on it's use as a GPS unit... I don't care about this part. The bespoke just looks better imo. As long as it functions well, and could possibly support android phones in the near future, I'm leaning towards that upgrade.

I use an ipod for music so as long as I can hook that up to the bespoke, and make my song selections through the head unit instead of through the ipod, I'll be happy.

I'm just worried because I'm so pleased with the tc unit right now and I dont want bespoke to be a step backwards in terms of functionality.

Keep your TC people... it is by far superior to FR-S.
I see so many tc, can not stand the thought of that happening to FR-S.

I totally agree 100%. Your TC is still pretty new and just keep it for now. Read up more reviews from current FR-S owner to see if there are issues here and there before making the decision. Or consider the new TC instead.

I have the stock stereo and it's the same stock stereos in all Scions I think. Imo the $900 price tag for an extra 40 watts and LCD screen was not worth it so I didn't get it. Remember that the stock stereo is 300W... very impressive for stock and it sounds very nice.

I've seen other people on this forum install an aftermarket stereo like this: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-P8400BH-Multimedia-Widescreen-Bluetooth/dp/B006Y442AU"]Amazon.com: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH 2-DIN Multimedia DVD Receiver with 7" Widescreen Touch Panel Display, Advanced App Mode, Built-In Bluetooth, and HD Radio™: Electronics[/ame]

I might be getting that as an early Christmas present for myself. Even with installation cost, i'm sure it's going to be cheaper and a better option than the Bespoke system.

FR-S > tC

because racecar!

Yeah after thinking about it more, I think going stock and maybe later upgrading to another unit seems like the way to go.

HECK NOOO i trade my 08 tC for the FR-S and i love it... i dont regret at all

I am selling my 05 TRD Supercharged tC with way too many mods and I bought the FR-S and I love the sports car feel in it compared to the tC. Yes its underpowered but it drive SO nice I dont even care. I love the FR-S. No regrets here. Oh and by the way that 05 was bought in November of 2004 and the only problem I ever had was the air vent wouldn't stay in place. I expect the same quality out of the FR-S.

traded 08 tc for brz...tc was just cheap decent car. this is in a class of it's own

Keep the TC and buy the FRS. Daily drive the TC and weekend drive the FRS. Multi car discount on insurance and have the luxury of both. It's paid off why not.

nothing comfirmed but its bound to happen. dealership was talking about them already but no eta or any info.

I came from a tc2 with headers/exhaust/intake/pulley and i still would pick my frs over it. The shifter feels so much better, it handles so much better, its faster(i have tune), and i actually feel more comfortable in my frs than my tc2. I wont lie i do miss the space in my tc2 and it had a way better stock sound system in the tc2. I also miss the fat steering wheel but i wudnt look back.
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With that few miles it would be foolish to change now...my current ride is about to roll over 160000 miles! I'd like to be in a new car before I spend a dime on repairs, you won't have that problem. Who knows, maybe they will add a moonroof next year considering they are already talking about a convertible which is infinitely more destructive to the rigidity of the chassis than a moonroof.

I mentioned the roof because you know you're going to miss it. I think the tC is a great looking car, way better than everything else with 2 doors anywhere close to its price range. But compared to the BRZ/FR-S, with the exception of the moonroof, there is nothing about the tC I'd rather have over the twins despite the fact that I like the tC quite a bit. The pathetically soft clutch though is what ultimately steered me away. They say the clutch is soft on the twins too, but from my brief clutchings with both cars I would say the tC is twice as soft.

Being mid-20s it doesnt really make sense for me to own two cars. I'd rather keep that extra dough for other things that will be coming up like house, engagement/wedding, etc. Trading in the tC @ 12k-13k seems like the best option right now.

I came from a 2008 TC with 45k miles and was soooooo anxious that I wanted to throw up when making the switch to my Asphalt MT FR-S. My TC was almost paid off and I never had any problems with it... but I became fascinated with the fr-s from the moment I saw it. After a couple days all of my worries went away... I LOVE my new car and it fits me, feels like the car that I should be driving and I feel proud to drive it and comfortable in it. These are things that I never felt about my TC... It was a good car, but more of a point A to B vehicle.
If you are just looking for a good car at a good price that is reliable... stick with your TC, but if you are fascinated with the FR-S and are wondering if it would be worth it to have a car that you love vs. like, well I can tell you that at least for me it was definitely the right choice to get the FR-S!!!

Ok i respect that but its not costing you anything to keep it. most likely you would just use it as a down payment. :w00t:
You can always sell the TC later. Even if you kept it, i can already predict you will drive the FRS over the TC.

Note: maybe im crazy because i have 3 cars lol
never find a good reason to sell something that still works great. but that's me and you have the right thinking :respekt:

The TC....get rid of it and get a FR-S or BRZ asap! There are people trading in 370Z, 350Z, lexus is and mustang GTs in on FR-S, BRZ. The tC is crap compared to a FR-S or BRZ.

But 2014 model year is closer than most of yall think...I would wait for a 2014 and hope there is a Release Series.

Come on RWD trumps FWD all the time!

I would wait for the 2014 FR-S so that bugs will be worked out.

My FR-S is great but there are little things that annoy me like:

* Engine cricket noise forcing me to only use Shell gas to make it tolerable
* Passenger speaker area rattling
* Another rattling somewhere in the back, maybe the rear deck

I came from a 2006 tC with TRD suspension (springs, shocks, rear bar). The car was fine but still not really sporty. I liked the hatchback versatility but I knew what I was getting into with no rear passenger room and smallish trunk of the FR-S.

Would I still get the FR-S knowing what I know now? Yes I would. The car drives like a dream. I go out of my way to find curvy roads to just feel the steering and chassis carve up the road.

I was concerned about getting a first year production car like you are now. For my piece of mind, I got an extended warranty for 8yr/100k.

I still look out for tCs out on the road for sentimental reasons, but mostly to see how many have broken rear hatch handles that have been fixed by owners with tape! That is really ghetto. I’m surprised there isn’t a recall for that.