Friends bet on my FR-S/BZR vs AE86
 

I haven't seen my friends for few months now due to baby sitting issue, but tonight wife and her friends wants to hang out at our house fine by me, so called my friends & we headed out on our old bar hang out. As talk about me still waiting for FR-S or BRZ to come out they started to do another bet, that my mildly tune AE86 cant beat a stock FR-S/BRZ around willow springs big track? I told them we already know that my AE86 was faster than my friends almost stock S2000 around that track, for me I dont really care but I cant wait for that day when my AE86 and FR-S or BRZ will race side by side. So anyone have any predictions who will be faster, a mild tune AE86 or a more modern car FR-S?

Unrelated to your post a little, but how expensive are "Track Days" or track time over there?

Also, I'm inclined to say the new car. For the pure and simple fact it looks like it's been tuned just for that job, what with being sent around the 'ring and all that.

Hmm... tough call. o_O Will depend on the driver of each of those cars. If there were two of you and you were driving both the 86 and the Ft86... it'd be an interesting outcome.

I'm stuck right inbetween so I can't really.. put in my .2¢ unfortunately. :(

Price on track day It all depends on the organizers and track or event like grip or drift, SCCA are the most expensive one as far as i know, TCRA use to join around $130 back then but now maybe little higher, I know extrem speeds events are cheaper.

Well I'll be driving AE86, my brother will drive the FR-S since both have almost same experience on that track it should be equal as driver, back then we use to have almost same time on same car on my AE86.

I just woke up from a dream...

and gettin ready to go to work now.

In this dream, the FRS or BRZ was in it. And somebody in that dream told me that this car when it corners, the chassis will cause the suspension to sink in....to the opposite side. So if you're turning right (as i saw in my dream)...the car will sink towards the front right hand side.

:D

Add hydraulic pumps to the shock absorbers and that's exactly what you get, like in the MP4-12C! :D well that particular car is tuned to stay flat under cornering, but you could make it go more.

But I do want the FR-S to be faster than my AE86 on stock so I can have a bigger expectation when I mod it. but then again the FR-S has a very big shoes to fill

It's way too early to speculate how it will perform on a track. We have no factual information other than dimensions. I would HOPE it would be at least on par with a mildly tuned AE86, very disappointing if it isn't.

what was your 86 spec was it?

its going to be faster than a mildly modded ae86 especially around big willow. your ae86 shoulnt be faster than a stock s2k there either with equally skilled drivers

same thing I told them no concrete spec yet, but for them its a chance to bring me back in to the game.


228whp w/ a 218lbs trq all the way to 9,200rpm, 1800lbs

I really need to extract my old videos and file on my old hard drive but here is what same word my other friend told me on our last friendly bet, he told me a mildly tuned NA AE86 can't beat a mildly tuned RX7 TII on a gymkhana. so I made a NA AE86 gave it same suspensions as my supercharged AE86 but a special engine lol

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...A/HPIM0627.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...A/HPIM0643.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...A/HPIM0650.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...A/HPIM0653.jpg

Then answer is no, stock FRS won't beat your 86

Is that considered a mild tune? But yeah, the FT86 won't keep up with a supercharged AE86.

well a gymkhana is worlds apart from from big willow where power is what matters. if 2xxhp in an ae86 is mildly tuned then you are right. we can pretend you are not just trying to brag about your car for long enough to point out that yeah, most likely the car with more power, less weight, and an aftermarket suspension is going to be faster

Those are some really scary numbers. Lol Not in a bad way. O_O

lol i wish i had a mild tuned AE86 with 4agze in it!!

Nice work!

Oh and the AE86 will def bet the FT-86

Well my point was on the gymkhana that its not all about power I aim to show skill vs brute force beside his RX7 TII is almost 300whp cant beat him on big willow so my move was less power to teach him and show his turbo lag was an disavantage on this event lol.

Back when it was turbo its much much scaryer when the full boost kicks the rear sliding like a motherf***er but I needed NA like engine response to match his NA F22. Out side looks nothing right

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...car/AE86_1.jpg

Till you see whats under that will bite you lol

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...car/AE86_9.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...r/DSCF1006.jpg

I think you may be embellishing a little :bellyroll:

i still fail to see what any of that has to do with a frs vs ae86 on big willow

I don't think the FRS/BRZ stock will be able to hang with your 86 not only because of the specs but due to the level of comfort you have with your 86 compared to the FRS/BRZ

btw very nice impressive numbers

228whp w/ a 218lbs trq all the way to 9,200rpm, 1800lbs

With those figures alone, your AE86 will give a stock FR-S/BR-Z a good run around Willow and even Streets.

More like completely overwhelm it with brute power and agility. :confused0068:

4agze, I would like to see a competition between your HachiRoku and Dragonitti's tC.

Thanks man

I still have hopes that atleast out the box the FR-S will be competative with my AE86, again it will have a big shoes to fill

Dragonitti's tc its a brute force I'm out power and out class, at big willow that straight start finish he will just power his way on me lol

Yeah Willow is a high speed track and also a track like California Speedway will definitely cater to Travis' tC since they have long straights.

But tight technical tracks like Streets of Willow and certain configuations of Buttonwillow, your AE86 will have the advantage.

What catches my attention is that 1800 lbs! That is awesome! :respekt:

In stock trim, the FR-S/BR-Z might not favor so well but I'm going to say some minor engine mods, a suspension swap and some weight reduction then you might have a better matchup.

:confused0068:How much do you want for your AE86? ... lol

Like horse thief mile lol maybe, with my TRD gear ratio with a 4.7 final gear that can even the ods

I have a lot of plan on my FR-S/BRZ for sure it needs to surpass the AE86

Lol thanks but no not for sale, my wife already told me never sell it, beside its worth more to me than my RS4

Thats either a typo or one hell of a woman hahaha

LOL. So these days a vehicle with more than double it's stock power output is only mildly tuned?

I hope to God that the new FT86 is faster than your AE86 because with that kind of power to weight ratio it would be the performance deal of the century.

Lol well she is one hell of a woman but she is more about the memories we put on like driving all the way to san fernando valley to pick up my dori dori rims, going to Japan and buying my HKS supercharger kit, her fight on having a passanger seat & we talked about passing this car to our child.

That ain't mildly tuned at all, lol. Didn't the stock engine make like 120hp? You'd have an advantage in both power and weight (can't imagine the FT86 having more than 200hp).