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KaliKev 09-10-2011 08:54 PM

Fender Vents real or fake
 
If the fender vents are fake, I might just cry.

Reminds me of those chrome stick on fender vents from Kragens... :barf:

What are the odds they are real?

82mm 4g63 09-10-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KaliKev (Post 59069)
If the fender vents are fake, I might just cry.

Reminds me of those chrome stick on fender vents from Kragens... :barf:

What are the odds they are real?

They will be real...

http://www.248am.com/images/dremel300.jpg

lol

Random_Art 09-10-2011 08:58 PM

If they're real, I would rather have the vents from the mk1

KaliKev 09-10-2011 08:59 PM

lmao

Ditto though. I will be doing the same.

MF_DEUCE 09-10-2011 09:02 PM

Pay a little extra to get them filled in. :D

Midship Runabout 09-10-2011 11:24 PM

Fake as a mustangs

Neutral_Eyes 09-11-2011 01:30 AM

We're running low on things to complain about, I see. IAA is only a couple days away, wait it out.

chaoskaze 09-11-2011 03:21 AM

I want to vents on FR-S concept to be real. :thanks: Toyota!

even though I know the likelihood is well below 10% ><

SUB-FT86 09-11-2011 09:26 AM

I want the vents to have signal lights.

Random_Art 09-11-2011 09:44 AM

Hmm... I wonder if I could reconfigure the exhaust to exit out those vents...

suprachica79 09-11-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 59124)
I want the vents to have signal lights.

That would be nicely unique for sure. I doubt they will keep them unfortunately

Levi 09-11-2011 10:43 AM

+1 I want the vents of FR-S. It has no.

SUB-FT86 09-11-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 59128)
Hmm... I wonder if I could reconfigure the exhaust to exit out those vents...

you sound like a mad man!!

Random_Art 09-11-2011 11:20 AM

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...arnsworth1.jpg

The hardest part would be trying to figure out where to put the muffler(s). Otherwise, may as well straight pipe it and keep it on the track

nate89 09-11-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 59146)
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...arnsworth1.jpg

The hardest part would be trying to figure out where to put the muffler(s). Otherwise, may as well straight pipe it and keep it on the track

Gotta watch out for the exhaust burning the paint.

Random_Art 09-11-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nate89 (Post 59153)
Gotta watch out for the exhaust burning the paint.

True. I think that's a factor that would have to be taken into account regardless of whether the exhaust exits through the fenders or under the rear bumper.

Since this is a retarded amount of theoretical fabrication, anyways... Why not custom mill a trim plate out of aluminum that would surround the fender vent and not worry quite so much about the paint? The most at risk paint is that which is closest to the exhaust tip. Also, the exhaust tip would have to extend slightly beyond the fender to minimize paint damage.

fatoni 09-11-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 59128)
Hmm... I wonder if I could reconfigure the exhaust to exit out those vents...

id imagine its not possible since there would be a tire in there

Random_Art 09-11-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 59179)
id imagine its not possible since there would be a tire in there

Who needs tires? :bellyroll:

n2oinferno 09-11-2011 06:00 PM

I hope the production version doesn't have them. However, it wouldn't be the end of the world if it does. If they're chrome, they can be color matched to the body fairly easily, one would hope.

xantonin 09-12-2011 05:18 AM

Won't buy any version that has fake vents.

I'll lose 100% respect for the car.

oneday 09-12-2011 09:10 AM

What vents are we talking about here?

Neutral_Eyes 09-12-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oneday (Post 59281)
What vents are we talking about here?

http://i.imgur.com/QgnuR.jpg

Either way it'll be a pain to detail.

madfast 09-12-2011 11:30 AM

the fender vent on ferrari's FF is used to vacate the pressure build up in the front wheel wells. ferrari also has small rear vents for the rear tires. so anyways, i remember there was talk about how the FT-86 I design was changed to the FT-86 II due to aerodynamics. the fender vents debuted on the FT-86 II, related? Hmmm...

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/fe..._33111_717.jpg

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...6&d=1298969682

notice how on the FT-86 II there are both front and rear fender vents? i dunno if the rear vents will make it to production, but the front vents are here to stay. they very well may be decoration only, BUT the fact that they are in the same general area as the functional ferrari FF vents AND that the FT-86 II design is aero improved makes me think it just may be functional....

KaliKev 09-12-2011 12:18 PM

Wait a minute, The camo covers the vents on the mules. But if they were real wouldn't the camo peal away or rip from the air pressure venting out?

madfast 09-12-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KaliKev (Post 59294)
Wait a minute, The camo covers the vents on the mules. But if they were real wouldn't the camo peal away or rip from the air pressure venting out?

that's a good point. but i dont think the pressures would be high enough to blow the tape off. on the concept there is that chrome M3 style bar on the vent. that means the vent is probably non-functional. however if the real car doesnt have the bar, then it very well may be functional. even if its functional, its just a small aero aid. it probably wont have a huge impact. look at the relative size of the FF's vent. that vent means business. the FT? not so much...

either way it looks cool, and it goes well with the styling so i like it...

Toyota fr-s 09-12-2011 12:38 PM

okay, if we were to have the vents, what would they be used for? I mean, vents on a fender? I know for the MR2 one side goes to the air intake and the other to the intercooler and they are on the back.

Spaceywilly 09-12-2011 01:08 PM

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okay, if we were to have the vents, what would they be used for? I mean, vents on a fender? I know for the MR2 one side goes to the air intake and the other to the intercooler and they are on the back.
they vent hot air from the engine/brakes. They have been around forever but only in the last decade became a "fashion statement" when buick started putting fake ones on their new car, then everyone started doing it. The MR2 vents face forward and scoop air into the intake/intercooler. These face backwards and vent hot air out of the engine compartment and front wheel well.

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Wait a minute, The camo covers the vents on the mules. But if they were real wouldn't the camo peal away or rip from the air pressure venting out?
The camo had holes poked where the vents are

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....subaru-brz.jpg

Random_Art 09-12-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 59300)
they vent hot air from the engine/brakes. They have been around forever but only in the last decade became a "fashion statement" when buick started putting fake ones on their new car, then everyone started doing it.

The camo had holes poked where the vents are

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....subaru-brz.jpg

If you look at that spot in some of the other photos, it looks different in each. Sometimes it's blurred or blacked out. Other times the clear outline of what looks like the 86 badge can be seen.

madfast 09-12-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 59300)
they vent hot air from the engine/brakes. They have been around forever but only in the last decade became a "fashion statement" when buick started putting fake ones on their new car, then everyone started doing it. The MR2 vents face forward and scoop air into the intake/intercooler. These face backwards and vent hot air out of the engine compartment and front wheel well.

this is true usually for fender vents that are vertical and right behind the wheels. the vents higher up are usually used to evacuate the turbulent air in the wheel well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 59300)
The camo had holes poked where the vents are

its just the camera angle. there is tape covering the vent and badge...

Levi 09-12-2011 05:31 PM

On the M3 one vent is functional, the one on the drivers side, the other is for looks, but well it would look weird with a vent only on one side.

fatoni 09-12-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 59300)
they vent hot air from the engine/brakes. They have been around forever but only in the last decade became a "fashion statement" when buick started putting fake ones on their new car, then everyone started doing it. The MR2 vents face forward and scoop air into the intake/intercooler. These face backwards and vent hot air out of the engine compartment and front wheel well.

i dont think its as simple as forward or backward facing. i think its more about low and high pressures

chulooz 09-12-2011 08:42 PM

Could someone provide visual examples on the mules for the existence (or not) of these vents?

Spaceywilly 09-12-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 59387)
Could someone provide visual examples on the mules for the existence (or not) of these vents?

Looks like it is just some kind of tape. It looks different in every photo. There is definitely something there. It is either a vent or the ft86 logo. Someone in the "unmasking the prototype" thread who has supposedly seen the production model said the vents are there. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=508
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....subaru-brz.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....subaru-brz.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....subaru-brz.jpg

In the last two you can see the outline of something, looks very similar to the outline of the vent on the concept.

http://i.imgur.com/W9aMR.png

quik1987 09-12-2011 08:53 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...2&d=1305681502
http://media2.worldcarfans.com/2010/...1116347276.jpg
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...4&d=1303325701

Spaceywilly 09-12-2011 09:04 PM

just compare this (the suspiciously vent shaped indentation, not the ft86 logo):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...2&d=1305681502
to this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....eneva-2011.jpg

The vent is there without the chrome trim piece. Looks like the ft86 logo was there in that pic but not in the later ones (maybe it's only on the Toyota version).

MiguelAE86 09-12-2011 09:08 PM

What would be the possibility of the vent NOT being there? as in, just a flat surface in the outer trim-shape of the vent? i mean, IF there is a vent, why cover it? and if there IS a vent, it's not functional due to that fact that they DID cover it, no?

Spaceywilly 09-12-2011 09:18 PM

There's no way to tell. Even if it was functional it would not have a huge impact if they covered it up. It just means the benefits of it (pretty small) would be lost. I guess the only argument I have for it being real is that there's no reason to put a fake one on, and if you are going to put all that body work in to have the outline of one, why not just poke the hole through to make it functional. It looks like it is more than just a sticker like most cars have these days.

quik1987 09-12-2011 09:36 PM

If it were functional why would the FIVEAXIS guys remove it on the FR-S?

Spaceywilly 09-12-2011 09:48 PM

As far as I understand it the fiveaxis concept was just to drum up hype for the Scion launch and doesn't have anything to do with the actual production car. You can tell by looking at it that it was never meant for production, it is just a pure concept car. It was driven by electric motors and had solid black windows.

Random_Art 09-12-2011 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quik1987 (Post 59413)
If it were functional why would the FIVEAXIS guys remove it on the FR-S?

Because theirs isn't meant to be driven at all.


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