[AUS] TECHNICAL NEWSFLASH - Dealer Notification
 

Copied from another forum to notify members here, so credit goes to gt86 lads..cheers

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Hrmm

these damm people using regular instead of premium... lol

I wonder what it is ?

This car appears doomed, at least in the short term. There seems to be problems everywhere. Could this be the REAL reason why our orders are constantly getting delayed?

I think that's the case too. Maybe it's fixing the faults on the spot as they build each batch of 86/BRZ.

Speaking about BRZ, never heard any issues from them yet. i'm assuming they might have the same issue.

My engine is fine, haven't notices any misfires yet. I'll do a scan over the weekends. I have diagnostic tools on my laptop. :search:

just tested my car out with this procedure. my idle seems smooth. fingers crossed (and knock on wood).

for the last dot point; If engine does not fault, quickly free rev the engine greater then 5,000rpms....

Is that safe to rev that high while in (P) on Auto, i thought revving that high is bad for the engine or was it transmission? I'm just assuming, i think i remember someone telling me it's not good to rev too high on an auto, unless you're driving.

i'd think just a quick rev for a few times shouldn't hurt.

i did 3 times in my manual and let it settled to idle and it settled quite nicely. nothing rough at all.

Just put it in neutral :thumbup:

I think I have this problem. =(

so idle is rough after reving the engine? any CEL light?

Not always.

Sometimes I can push the engine hard and it'll still idle fine. Other times it'll feel like the car is jerking left and right every 5-10 seconds.

No out of the ordinary lights.

It happens with both Caltex 98 and Shell 98. (I've only put 98 in the car)

I guess I'll let the dealer know when I go for my 1 month inspection.

I wonder if other Subarus have this problem since the bulk of that engine like sensors etc is theirs. Toyota seems to have only developed the D4-S injection, which could also be suspect. Either way having 2 manufacturers on the case with all these problems will no doubt have these issues resolved quicker than normal time.

With only a handful of BRZ's in the country, you'll hardly hear a peep from them. By the time more BRZ stock arrives, all these issues would have been fixed & in production.

This kind of problem and procedure described above sounds a lot like the testing that should have been done way before the 86 is released to mass production. Something like engine RPM idling issues sounds like it should have been caught if field testing have been done properly and extensively?!

The idle is the symptom. Not the problem.

My brz doesn drop revs at idle BUT I do get the car shaking left and right occasionally, nothing serious but it can be felt. Could this just be due to the horizontally opposed engine and varying crank loads or misfiring ?

Either way it's probably just a mapping error and hopefully a flash will be released by dealers to fix it.

a horizontally opposed engine is naturally balanced so it wont shake at idle and above unless there is an issue.

For the purposes of a discussion about idle and revving, park [P] IS neutral. It's fine.

Yeah no problem with the BRZ, Subi build them with better parts etc.. hence why it is more awesome :P

I kid i kid.

i have been getting a rough idle now and then.. still waiting to see what comes of it.

As u know I have flashed. I also get a bit off rough idling occasional well

Looks like I have stock flash and test as well

How are you finding visconti's tune? have you went head to head with an 86/brz to see how it fares?

Looking @ other threads in the US this problem appears to be HUGE ! I can't believe Toyota/Subaru had the nerve to release a highly anticipated motorcar with this kind of shit going on. Some peoples cars have caught fire, it's that serious !

I will now seriously consider cancelling my order - I can wait ! One thing I don't want is for my brand new car to be sitting in a dealer service bay for weeks on end whilst they rip out the engine, change a shit load of parts which they can't get & figure out what to do next. My Celica with more than 300K on the clock never had such stupid issues & still runs perfectly, regardless if I rev it to 8.5K or not.

This really pisses me off. Just bloody unbelievable.

The flash is really good. Can feel huge difference in the tune.
Since this is my weekender because of the idiots at the train station.

I am still in the breakin period. But down low you can feel the differences. Have not tested against another 86 so unsure.

Yep it's an issue. But it's not the end of the world. Toyota has no interest in releasing a car they know they are going to have to fix later. Batch production issues happen. Especially in the first batch. Fire issue is a freaky culmination of issues.
Likely the issue has already been fixed and cars from now will be fine.

I agree, it's not the end of the world, however it would appear that they have hurried the release of this car, hence all the issues which I doubt are batch related, it's design related and the 86 is a new design.

I'm 100% certain all will be fixed but by when no-one knows. I would definitely prefer to keep my order - I really do love the car, even if it is a bit underpowered, ideally.

I'm also of the belief that TMCA Tech Division along with the rest of the gang will move swiftly to rectify all the shit, TMCA are, in my experience, very good in this regard. Time will tell.

Maybe instead of cutting corners like deleting the spare tyre etc an petty penny pinching maneouvres to get a few bucks more off it's 86 buyers, TMCA should really have spent their time field testing the 86 extensively under Australian conditions.

If they had done this instead of mucking around and pissing off potential buyers as well as concentrating on getting more 86 into Australia we wouldn't have all these problems in the first place / they'd have been identified earlier.

i really hate sticking up for toyota but use a little common sense...
are they really penny pinching???
they could have easily sold all the cars with another $5k on them.
and it's not a problem unique to australia, it is happening all over so more aussies testing isn't the solution.

Also remember that this engine is new, there will be teething problems. Guys in America are revving these over 8k and Don from Accelarated Performance has had his about 9k.

This engine has potential, you won't wrong. First gen always has problem.

Hummmm, 69 k's on the clock and due to the race prep I have no warranty !!! If it shit's itself before it does a lap in anger I will be rightly pissed !!

If I can confirm a tune or cam/crank sensor issue I will fix it before testing... just need Toyota to get the fix and info out there and soon.. I was told Blacktown has four in for major repairs.. not good :(

tested mine, nothing out of the ordinary. the engine ticking is what annoys me. but that is suppose to be the injectors or something.

bloody subaru...

i love people that throw in their 2c's about a new product launch when they clearly have no idea...

when you launch a brand new product regardless of how much QA testing and field testing you do... there are always going to be issues that arise that were not accounted for in testing because you simply cannot test the Sheer volumes VS when it goes to market.

If you want them to do extensive product testing where they test 10,000 cars... then you need to expect to pay $60K for the car instead of $30K because they need to recoup their costs.

You buy a GEN1 car you get the joy of it being new and exciting, you get the drawback of being a guinea pig.. thats why they have warranty.

But that Tada bloke has been telling anyone who will listen that he did it all?

dont take it to heart :brokenheart:





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Don't worry mate, if there's anyone who doesn't care it's me.

I care so little what badge is in my garage, I actually ordered a Toyota.

@ primetime - No offence intended, but I have to say you're starting to sound like a broken record stuck on a negative note. We understand that you were/are annoyed about the spare tyre deletion and we applaud you for having the balls to cancel and buy a 370... but perhaps it is time to move on emotionally and stop the constant 86/BRZ beating? Just a friendly suggestion.

ah every topic goes back to the old badge issue. good times