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Ayaz2589 09-13-2012 12:21 PM

When should i do an oil change?
 
Hey guys my FR-S just hit 3500 miles and im thinking about doing an oil change however, someone told me i can wait a while longer until i do my oil change. Any thoughts?

JoeBoxer 09-13-2012 12:36 PM

I just hit 3k on mine and am trying to decide myself, i want to change as soon as i can decide on which oil i'm going to use. I will stick with the oem filter for now.

gmookher 09-13-2012 12:39 PM

subaru SM, Toyota SN and Eneos Sustina are my top pics for oil in 0w-20 in that order

new filter at 500 miles, subaru
1500 miles oil and filter,subaru oil
3750,subaru oil
7000 eneos sustina + liqui moly MOS2 1/2 bottle using HAMP toyo roki green filters...(yes I know I'm anal about oil, but my stable requires it)

and every 4000 miles there after till I get another blackstone UOA done to justify pushing 5000 to 7000 per change

I will be using the above oils and likely dosing full bottle MOS2 for track time, and if its really hot(over 100F racing) I will mix in 30% german made castrol 0w-30


ymmv

CBR600RR 09-13-2012 12:56 PM

I did my first oil change after 1500km

zoomzoomers 09-13-2012 01:11 PM

The manual states the first oil change at 7.5k miles. Personally I'm doing my 1st oil change at 3.5k miles and going with Mobil 1.

dabocx 09-13-2012 01:14 PM

Im at 3040 but i have a full HPDE event this weekend. I wanted to change it but the local dealer doesnt have oil filters and its too late to order online.

Hopefully the car doesnt mind :(

VSGTS14 09-13-2012 01:47 PM

gosh, i'll be doing mine every 3k. i don't care what the manuals say etc, 3k is the limit for the way we all drive these vehicles.

JoeBoxer 09-13-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 438241)
subaru SM, Toyota SN and Eneos Sustina are my top pics for oil in 0w-20 in that order

I was thinking about the Eneos myself, I have Penzoil Platinum 0w20 here that i get really cheap i may go with that and just change it more often.

mact 09-13-2012 02:18 PM

I'm thinking of changing mine when it hits 600 miles.

mach330 09-13-2012 02:55 PM

Changed mine at 1k.

Tap'd from my G-Nex

thebear21 09-13-2012 03:03 PM

ROYAL PURPLE FTW!

Ayaz2589 09-13-2012 03:38 PM

scion does a complementary oil change the first time, correct?

JoeBoxer 09-13-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayaz2589 (Post 438630)
scion does a complementary oil change the first time, correct?

First three actually but not sure if i want them doing mine.

tonystewart 09-13-2012 05:23 PM

17 miles, Pennzoil Ultra 5w30, Purolator 14459 & Filtermag RA-300 installed
1000 miles, Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 & Purolator 14459
1300 miles Ran-UP additive, quieter & smoother

JPxM0Dz 09-13-2012 06:22 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPMRiYN0Odk&feature=g-vrec"]2013 Subaru BRZ - First Oil Change with Torco 100% Synthetic SR-1 - YouTube[/ame]

ducks 09-13-2012 06:42 PM

found this:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...47#Post2710647

UOA of the original factory oil

zoomzoomers 09-14-2012 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz (Post 438933)

So this Torco 10w30 100% synthetic oil is good stuff? I might have to give it a try. :w00t:

Alienate 09-14-2012 01:21 PM

First Oil change with use of a MAGNET
 
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I like to do my first oil change at 500 miles. I did so today. After draining the OEM oil, I ran a large magnet thru the oil catch pan. The results were quite surprising.
The magnet picked up HUNDREDS of metal shards, some as big as a quarter inch.
The attached photo shows the gory details.

eclipsed 09-14-2012 02:51 PM

That is one scary picture. That's a lot of metal floating around in the oil...

tonystewart 09-14-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eclipsed (Post 440693)
That is one scary picture. That's a lot of metal floating around in the oil...

Hence the need for a Filtermag

@Art_Mighty 09-15-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonystewart (Post 440877)
Hence the need for a Filtermag

Which of the three sizes will work for our cars (mines in the shop with a CEL so I can't measure)

tonystewart 09-15-2012 12:42 PM

RA-300

_hollywood 09-16-2012 12:56 AM

Im waiting till 7500 ill let you guys know if my engine blows up....

Remember they design these cars to be idiot proof, even if you change your oil every 3k one accidental shift into 3rd instead of 5th will do more damage than i will by going with the oem recommended maintenance schedule....

My 2 cents

F3dzo 09-16-2012 01:00 AM

Lord knows I've bounced off the rev limiter down shifting by accident. There's safeguards in place for that... Btw, changed the oil at 7500 with amsoil... Runs the same with better mileage

_hollywood 09-16-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducks (Post 438956)
found this:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...47#Post2710647

UOA of the original factory oil

The numbers dont lie, on older cars i always change every 5k but times have changed i think we will all be ok to wait, unless you are competing in 24hr challenges every weekend

Marrk 09-16-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _hollywood (Post 443092)
The numbers dont lie, on older cars i always change every 5k but times have changed i think we will all be ok to wait, unless you are competing in 24hr challenges every weekend



Okay. But it all goes back to the old argument: Is there such a thing as "break-in oil from the factory"? If the high moly content on that Blackstone report is to be understood as an intended and necessary break-in additive, then perhaps we should not change the oil early. However, some have argued that high moly amounts are the result of engine assembly paste on a new build and are not put there for break-in purposes.

Nobody knows the answer to this mystery. :D

Marrk 09-16-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F3dzo (Post 443084)
Lord knows I've bounced off the rev limiter down shifting by accident. There's safeguards in place for that... Btw, changed the oil at 7500 with amsoil... Runs the same with better mileage




_hollywood is referring to a mechanical over-rev. There is no safeguard for that. You could probably look it up somewhere (no sarcasm intended).

F3dzo 09-16-2012 11:15 AM

Ohhhh

chulooz 09-16-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayaz2589 (Post 438190)
Hey guys my FR-S just hit 3500 miles and im thinking about doing an oil change however, someone told me i can wait a while longer until i do my oil change. Any thoughts?

I would tell you to do an oil change now, oil analysis leave no guess work; its past time.

R L Newb 09-17-2012 05:41 PM

Did my first change at 4500, mainly because I shot for 3k but got lazy. Quite a bit of metal in the oil analysis but they said it was normal for a break-in change and the oil itself was in good shape.
I'm pushing 6k more miles for this second change and will again post oil results.

Marrk 09-17-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R L Newb (Post 445775)
Did my first change at 4500, mainly because I shot for 3k but got lazy. Quite a bit of metal in the oil analysis but they said it was normal for a break-in change and the oil itself was in good shape.
I'm pushing 6k more miles for this second change and will again post oil results.



If you did a UOA, you should scan it and post it. :thumbsup:

zoomzoomers 09-18-2012 01:40 AM

Although I care about my car, I'm can't see myself spending $10 per quart on oil. Can anyone recommend something that I can either pick up at a local store/shop that will do? I was going to use Mobil 1, but it seems it's not 0w20. Or can I just use Mobil 1 and be good? Just looking for some advice. :thanks:

R L Newb 09-18-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 446409)
If you did a UOA, you should scan it and post it. :thumbsup:

I gotcha covered on that

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13286

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 446635)
Although I care about my car, I'm can't see myself spending $10 per quart on oil. Can anyone recommend something that I can either pick up at a local store/shop that will do? I was going to use Mobil 1, but it seems it's not 0w20. Or can I just use Mobil 1 and be good? Just looking for some advice. :thanks:

Mobil 1 has never had great success in the Subaru world. I think there are a few threads suggesting types but the oem seems to work well

zoomzoomers 09-18-2012 04:24 PM

Ok, so what does work well for Subaru's???

chulooz 09-18-2012 04:25 PM

^ T6

zoomzoomers 09-18-2012 04:40 PM

T6???

R L Newb 09-18-2012 04:47 PM

Shell Rotella T6 5w-40 full syn. it's a diesel oil that works really well in boosted subarus. I ran the T5 10w30 in an old high mileage N/A and that seemed to like it.

I'm running the oem oil in the brz for now. Castrol has a 0w30 that's supposed to be good, i think it's made overseas or something. I don't know of another 0w20 but have done zero research for oil for this car.

Alienate 09-18-2012 05:42 PM

ack. Posted in wrong thread, sorry.

DaJo 09-18-2012 07:15 PM

Do we know what kind of oil our vehicles use from factory?

I just called up Subaru today and they told me the vehicle comes with "break-in" oil from factory.
That and it needs to stay in the engine for the recommended 5000 -10000 kilometers before its first "service type A" (oil change). :iono:

RacelineUSA_Matt 09-18-2012 07:17 PM

I would change the oil ASAP.


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