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Spencer Strayer 09-10-2012 11:56 PM

Euro fan converting to JDM... NEED HELP
 
Hey guys! Currently I own an mkv VW GTi and I am selling it to buy an fr-s (link here if anyone wants to check it out: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5814857-WTS-2008-4dr-White-GTi-on-Bags!-18-quot-BBS-Super-RS-s!!-Many-Mods!)

Anyways back to my point... In the euro community only a handful of rims are acceptable. Usually they're deep lipped with many spokes. Also there are only a handful of brands that are acceptable like Rotiform, BBS, CCW, etc...

My question is, what is usually acceptable in the JDM community!

PS: How do I know what rims will fit the FR-S, like what is the bolt pattern I'm looking for here?

Guff 09-11-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Strayer (Post 433137)
Hey guys! Currently I own an mkv VW GTi and I am selling it to buy an fr-s (link here if anyone wants to check it out: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-s!!-Many-Mods!)

Anyways back to my point... In the euro community only a handful of rims are acceptable. Usually they're deep lipped with many spokes. Also there are only a handful of brands that are acceptable like Rotiform, BBS, CCW, etc...

My question is, what is usually acceptable in the JDM community!:lol:

PS: How do I know what rims will fit the FR-S, like what is the bolt pattern I'm looking for here?

Here on this forum you will find that many people dislike 'slammed' vehicles and 'hard-parking'.

The general consensus is modest drop, 17-19" Wheels of decent width, with non-stretched tires. This is probably mostly due to the fact that these setups tend to best for those that like to track/AutoX their FRS/BRZ.


In regards to wheel info, you will find lots of very valuable information in the Wheels/Tires section of the website:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24

You can also find great info in the Suspension section:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59


Welcome to the forum! Remember to use the search button when you are looking for something, because chances are, we already have a wealth of info on it! :thumbup:

Spencer Strayer 09-11-2012 12:11 AM

Thank you so much! So what you're saying is I'm not allowed to scrape my undercarriage everywhere I go now? :(

wrxgoose 09-11-2012 01:25 AM

i think the requirement in this forum is that you have to be able to go over speedbumps head on

Silverdub 09-11-2012 06:42 AM

Dude, just do it the way that you feel it BUT this car it meant to be driven hard around corners to be fully appreciated!

Bounce 09-11-2012 07:14 AM

Slam this car, and it no longer serves any purpose RIP.

General rule is don't go over 17/18" if you care about lap times

armythug 09-11-2012 07:17 AM

OP if I were you, I wouldn't ask people for their opinions on the matter. It's your car. Do whatever you want to it. If you want to saw it in half, by all means...go ahead bro.

megatron 09-11-2012 07:51 AM

I'm usually very conservative when I give my opinion on something since I tend to give the other person the benift of a doubt when it comes to what they are thinking or doing but in all honnesty the drop on your VW is fucking stupid. Do yourself a favor and never do that again! especially on the FR-S! :-P

Flat Black VW 09-11-2012 12:00 PM

people only wanting to do what was accepted is exactly why I stopped enjoying the euro scene. Do whatever you like man, it's your car, stop trying to impress people online.

DarkSunrise 09-11-2012 12:57 PM

Welcome man! I've got a mk6 GTI and FR-S. The difference between the Japanese vs. VW scene is pretty interesting. More of a function > form philosophy going on here.

Most people here would agree with the guy above who said the FR-S was meant to be driven not hard parked, so you won't find as many people modifying with non-functional mods (bags, stretch, etc.)

That said, do what you want. Ultimately the only person you've got to worry about making happy with your car is yourself.

ill roller 09-11-2012 01:23 PM

Asking what's acceptable in the jdm community and what's acceptable on this forum are two totally different things. Having been all over the country and seen a lot of things in the "scene" I can tell you that the jdm community is very accepting of the VW style of individuality,slamming the fuck out of your car, bags, stretched tires, etc. and not so accepting of cheapo parts and beat up cars. My general philosophy is whether your car is a daily driver, track car, show car, it's your business what you want to do with it, just don't cheap out in important places.

This forum however seems to be the polar opposite from what I've seen so far. It reminds me a lot of the IS300 and 8th gen civic forums when I first joined them. Everyone was all about whatever they could do to the car the fastest and cheapest. Knock-off wheels (in the highest offset possible), lowering springs, pointless modification like aftermarket pulleys are/were the norm.

In the end, just do what you want, fuck what's acceptable.

BlaineWasHere 09-11-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by armythug (Post 433504)
OP if I were you, I wouldn't ask people for their opinions on the matter. It's your car. Do whatever you want to it. If you want to saw it in half, by all means...go ahead bro.

QFT!

anteater86 09-11-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armythug (Post 433504)
OP if I were you, I wouldn't ask people for their opinions on the matter. It's your car. Do whatever you want to it. If you want to saw it in half, by all means...go ahead bro.

I agree. Though I do find a little humor in the fact that there are certain brands that are "acceptable" by a particular "community" ...

diirk 09-11-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spencer Strayer (Post 433137)
Hey guys! Currently I own an mkv VW GTi and I am selling it to buy an fr-s (link here if anyone wants to check it out: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5814857-WTS-2008-4dr-White-GTi-on-Bags!-18-quot-BBS-Super-RS-s!!-Many-Mods!)

Anyways back to my point... In the euro community only a handful of rims are acceptable. Usually they're deep lipped with many spokes. Also there are only a handful of brands that are acceptable like Rotiform, BBS, CCW, etc...

My question is, what is usually acceptable in the JDM community!

PS: How do I know what rims will fit the FR-S, like what is the bolt pattern I'm looking for here?

Clean GTI you have there. GLWS. I've had a couple of them and a few other VW's. Also a number of Suby's.

With that said, I think the folks on this forum are a little more performance oriented then the typical JDM forum. If you hit NASIOC, there's a lot more stretch and poke going on there.

But, if you do get into an FRS/BRZ early, I'm sure you can help develope bags and such if you're still interested in that type of ride.

Otherwise, I'd say just hang out for a while and get a feel for what you want to do.

samoht 09-11-2012 06:43 PM

Stud pattern is 5x100

Wheel discussion here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24

Some pics of 'typical JDM' wheels on GT86s here
http://www.gt86ownersclub.co.uk/foru...d_topic92.html

My impression of JDM wheel-snobbery (which is basically what you're asking I think)
Dish is good, bigger and wider is good up to a point.
Japanese brands are preferred (Work, Enkei, Rays etc). Forged is preferred over cast construction as it's lighter for the same size/strength.
Rota (copies of JDM wheels, cast but fairly strong/light, based in the Philippines) acceptable if you don't want to spend so much and want new wheels.
Quality european wheels like e.g. a classic mesh BBS is totally fine, if you want to be different.
Non-original OEM wheels (e.g. swapped from a BMW) = poor
Cheap high-street or eBay wheels (e.g. TSW) = very poor

Spencer Strayer 09-11-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samoht (Post 434665)
Stud pattern is 5x100

Wheel discussion here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24

Some pics of 'typical JDM' wheels on GT86s here
http://www.gt86ownersclub.co.uk/foru...d_topic92.html

My impression of JDM wheel-snobbery (which is basically what you're asking I think)
Dish is good, bigger and wider is good up to a point.
Japanese brands are preferred (Work, Enkei, Rays etc). Forged is preferred over cast construction as it's lighter for the same size/strength.
Rota (copies of JDM wheels, cast but fairly strong/light, based in the Philippines) acceptable if you don't want to spend so much and want new wheels.
Quality european wheels like e.g. a classic mesh BBS is totally fine, if you want to be different.
Non-original OEM wheels (e.g. swapped from a BMW) = poor
Cheap high-street or eBay wheels (e.g. TSW) = very poor

Great info! I think Im going with the ultra marine color for my frs so and suggestions would be great!

Spencer Strayer 09-11-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megatron (Post 433525)
I'm usually very conservative when I give my opinion on something since I tend to give the other person the benift of a doubt when it comes to what they are thinking or doing but in all honnesty the drop on your VW is fucking stupid. Do yourself a favor and never do that again! especially on the FR-S! :-P

It's on airbags! I never drive it that low, just sunk it for some good pics!

megatron 09-11-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spencer Strayer (Post 434701)
It's on airbags! I never drive it that low, just sunk it for some good pics!

oh my bad! lol
but i still don't like how the pics look because it's to low for my taste! But i guess it can be appealing to others :happy0180:

Spencer Strayer 09-11-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diirk (Post 434380)
Clean GTI you have there. GLWS. I've had a couple of them and a few other VW's. Also a number of Suby's.

With that said, I think the folks on this forum are a little more performance oriented then the typical JDM forum. If you hit NASIOC, there's a lot more stretch and poke going on there.

But, if you do get into an FRS/BRZ early, I'm sure you can help develope bags and such if you're still interested in that type of ride.

Otherwise, I'd say just hang out for a while and get a feel for what you want to do.

I appreciate your input, however the whole reason im selling the gti is to get back to my roots of a performance based car... I used to have eibach springs on the gti and didnt think it would be a big difference going to bags, but the change was DRASTIC. I could no longer hug any turns the way I used to and not to mention it added a shit ton of weight to the car thus making it a lot slower

Synack 09-11-2012 07:14 PM

Bolt pattern is 5x100
18's and 19's looks best on the car.
8.5" looks best up front with the proper camber
9.5" looks best in rear with similar camber
I've been told a 2.15" drop will get you perfectly dead even maybe even rubbing with 19's in the above width.
With this car you have a very wide variety of choices for wheels and not many people will judge unless you choose some super ugly ass wheels.

Hope this helps.

diirk 09-11-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spencer Strayer (Post 434713)
I appreciate your input, however the whole reason im selling the gti is to get back to my roots of a performance based car... I used to have eibach springs on the gti and didnt think it would be a big difference going to bags, but the change was DRASTIC. I could no longer hug any turns the way I used to and not to mention it added a shit ton of weight to the car thus making it a lot slower

Sounds like you have a plan. The performance of these cars stock is great. I think you're going to enjoy owning one.

Spencer Strayer 09-11-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diirk (Post 434758)
Sounds like you have a plan. The performance of these cars stock is great. I think you're going to enjoy owning one.

Oh I have no doubt... been an initial D fan since grade school so this is like more than a dream come true lol! But i'd still like to stunt so anyone know of any PRACTICAL body kits that look good? Ive been checking out the NUR spec, and to most peoples surprise, I actually LIKE the wing lol!


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