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F3dzo 09-08-2012 11:16 PM
Temp oil catch device. AOS coming soon
 
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So I was seeing Crawford take apart a fa20 with 5,000 miles and I saw how dirty the combustion chamber and pistons were. So I decided to create a temporary solution to oil being pulled into the engine through the PCV.

I will check it in a few weeks to see if it's collecting oil and keeping it out. I report back progress

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::: disclaimer :::

I do not recommend this mod to anyone. Which is why I didn't make this a DIY. This is soley for purposes I still don't understand. Good day and dont do this to your car!

mike2100 09-09-2012 07:10 AM
I used one of those on my turbo RX-8. It seemed to work well at catching oil. It just doesn't have a lot of capacity.

gmookher 09-09-2012 09:10 AM
thats undersized for our application, and not the right device; I get that its temporary; but I wouldnt have posted up a picture of that home depot hackery..I used a Moroso solution thats bit more than temporary and may be worth your look

Sportsguy83 09-09-2012 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 430273)
I wouldnt have posted up a picture of that home depot hackery..
Which means you are not a leader or innovator but instead a follower.

OP clearly goes for innovation instead of waiting for other people to create it.

:respekt: for OP having the balls to try out new stuff and post it for all of our benefit.

gmookher 09-09-2012 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 430277)
Which means you are not a leader or innovator but instead a follower.

OP clearly goes for innovation instead of waiting for other people to create it.

:respekt: for OP having the balls to try out new stuff and post it for all of our benefit.
Right, following tried true and proven solutions, that exceed using a polycarbonate non heat rated air line oil trap is by no means innovation

Perhaps you should follow the leaders and innovators concept, and show me what you have under your hood, and I will show you mine.

I give op credit for balls, but it represents an over all inexperience in race or track prepping a car.

benefit? therein lies the question

The OP would benefit seeking a remedy for this temporary solution before it fails and becomes a vacuum leak or an oil spill on the track. I advise others against this sort of pseudo automotive hackery, YMMV

Sportsguy83 09-09-2012 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 430297)
Perhaps you should follow the leaders and innovators concept, and show me what you have under your hood, and I will show you mine.
I am not here to piss match, I am a follower, definitely wait for modifications to be tested before threading water. I have NO PROBLEM admitting that. My problem was specifically with you mocking the OP sharing his thoughts. I mean, he made it clear it was temporary right? So whats the need for the " I wouldnt have posted up a picture of that home depot hackery".

I'm done :threadjacked:, next time be more constructive in your comments, THAT helps the community.

mkiisupra 09-09-2012 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 430297)
Right, following tried true and proven solutions, that exceed using a polycarbonate non heat rated air line oil trap is by no means innovation

Perhaps you should follow the leaders and innovators concept, and show me what you have under your hood, and I will show you mine.

I give op credit for balls, but it represents an over all inexperience in race or track prepping a car.

benefit? therein lies the question

The OP would benefit seeking a remedy for this temporary solution before it fails and becomes a vacuum leak or an oil spill on the track. I advise others against this sort of pseudo automotive hackery, YMMV

I agree with the explanation completely. However, I also agree that the last line (as another poster has pointed out) could have been left out, its inflammatory and non-productive. Its just a dig, plain and simple.

Eric G

gmookher 09-09-2012 10:01 AM
Agreed, I am harsh often too blunt direct and critical. Probably proud of these qualities,too. Interweb just amplifies that.

I think its a safety issue, not trying to mock anybody...just dont wanna have folks think they too should be implementing this solution, which is VERY temporary I should hope

Somethings are best kept your own dirty lil secret, this mod is one of those take it easy ladies, post a picture of an ugly mod, and I'm RIGHT HERE , your friendly forum troll, k?

Sportsguy83 09-09-2012 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 430320)
Agreed, I am harsh often too blunt direct and critical.

I think its a safety issue, not trying to mock anybody...just dont wanna have folks think they too should be implementing this solution, which is VERY temporary I should hope

Somethings are best kept your own dirty lil secret, this mod is one of those
Now THIS sounds better. :happy0180:

F3dzo 09-09-2012 10:59 AM
Fair enough! I am open to any and all comments.

I don't track or race my car by any means. I just want a VERY cheap and quick albeit solution. If it gets full or starts to melt after a few days of use then it comes out. Not looking for looks on this mod. It looks like a blackhead on a teenagers face, I know.

I'm checking it after every drive. I'll pay attention to the concerns of you guys on hear. Plus I added a little disclaimer in my OP. cheers!

F3dzo 09-09-2012 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 430273)
thats undersized for our application, and not the right device; I get that its temporary; but I wouldnt have posted up a picture of that home depot hackery..I used a Moroso solution thats bit more than temporary and may be worth your look
Do u have a link or a pic? Im interested in checking it out. (NEVERMIND, JUST SAW YOUR PIC) What I'm shooting for is the AOS device that Crawford has but the haven't released it yet. Maybe another couple weeks.

Crawford 09-11-2012 10:36 PM
They will start shipping this Friday :)

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Originally Posted by F3dzo (Post 430381)
Do u have a link or a pic? Im interested in checking it out. (NEVERMIND, JUST SAW YOUR PIC) What I'm shooting for is the AOS device that Crawford has but the haven't released it yet. Maybe another couple weeks.

celica73 09-12-2012 07:27 AM
I just spent the weekend at the race track with no catch can, rather than sitting in front of the computer debating the merits of a catch can.

I had more fun than y'all.

The home depot solution is a good one to monitor the problem. When it doesn't fill with oil after 3 weeks I suppose it won't seem so undersized. That separator can probably flow 150 cam at 90 psi, so it won't have a problem with a little flow under engine vacuum.

Oh yeah, my car didn't blow up at the track, and the dipstick didn't show any significant oil loss.
Scott

Crawford 09-12-2012 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F3dzo (Post 430381)
Do u have a link or a pic? Im interested in checking it out. (NEVERMIND, JUST SAW YOUR PIC) What I'm shooting for is the AOS device that Crawford has but the haven't released it yet. Maybe another couple weeks.
They are shipping out today.

Team Crawford

Visconti 09-12-2012 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Crawford Performance (Post 436817)
They are shipping out today.

Team Crawford
Can't wait to have one in my hands

John

Crawford 09-13-2012 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 437309)
Can't wait to have one in my hands

John
Soon my friend :)

mike2100 09-13-2012 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawford Performance (Post 436817)
They are shipping out today.

Team Crawford
Do they really have to be over $300?
I'm not usually one to complain but man, I just don't understand where all that money is going!

ATL BRZ 09-13-2012 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 437975)
Do they really have to be over $300?
I'm not usually one to complain but man, I just don't understand where all that money is going!
Quote:
http://amzn.com/B004K9BIY4

http://i.imgur.com/B0BlC.png

Should be just as effective as the Crawford one for less than half the price. I ordered one last night.

Easy install too. Here are pics on a BRZ.
Spamming this in all the AOS threads because I hate to see fellow 86'ers overpay for parts they don't necessarily need.

xxscaxx 09-13-2012 10:30 AM
Yeah I had a "catch can" on my STi and during the winter it SUCKED. so much condensation would fill in that thing. I had a crawford unit before that, and never thought twice about having to drain it, and I almost had a heart attack when I popped my hood open and saw oily watery goop running down the side of my engine bay.

Crawford 09-13-2012 10:35 AM
Our AOS is designed, engineered, tested and fully fabricated here in the USA. If we had it made in China then we could sell it for half the amount... just like the others from China ;)

Team Crawford

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 437975)
Do they really have to be over $300?
I'm not usually one to complain but man, I just don't understand where all that money is going!

mike2100 09-13-2012 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawford Performance (Post 438005)
Our AOS is designed, engineered, tested and fully fabricated here in the USA. If we had it made in China then we could sell it for half the amount... just like the others from China ;)

Team Crawford
For $300 I could buy an iPhone made in China ;)

gmookher 09-13-2012 03:34 PM
any chance of a ft86club introductory group buy?

Visconti 09-13-2012 10:24 PM
Worth every penny!

Neziah 09-14-2012 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 439381)
Worth every penny!
+1 to that. I always support the small shops that do the R&D and their own manufacturing. :thumbsup:

chadz 09-17-2012 05:11 PM
Any updates? Are you catching anything? I put a catch can on the same location but it's still empty. Also installed a fuel filter on the manifold side and here it is after 180 miles.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...x/IMAG0146.jpg


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