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John_carlose 08-22-2011 02:15 AM

FR-S amongst luxury
 
FR-S made a pit stop at the Concour D'Elegance!!

http://www.houseofjapan.com/auto-mot...t-pebble-beach

Levi 08-22-2011 04:54 AM

Why would not a rich person drive his Ferrari sturday evening to show-off, and a Toyota FR-S on sunday after-noon to gain driving experience on a car that cost nothing for him and is not too dangerious?

Type[R]+ 08-22-2011 05:35 AM

^ Who cares? That is one sexy car!!!

Marrk 08-22-2011 11:56 PM

What's with the broken rear plastic? They trashed it getting it off the truck?

Zaku 08-23-2011 01:03 AM

it's alittle blasphemous in the sense of the show being for rich n classic. But cannot help feel that I love that car there.

Fortunate Few 08-23-2011 01:10 AM

I'm pissed I coulda went. I would have had I know it was there.

1660 08-23-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 55970)
I'm pissed I coulda went. I would have had I know it was there.

I may be wrong, but I think Pebble Beach is over $200 and that was over five years ago. IDK what it is now.

[es vi: eks] 08-23-2011 03:13 AM

Man the FRS looks better and better every time I see it.

ft86Fan 08-23-2011 08:12 AM

Thanks for the post. The car looks great. The Scion badge is actually growing on me.

jay4prez 08-23-2011 05:33 PM

is it just me, or does anyone recall toyota/subaru saying anything about LSD being standard? as this post claims?

This is one DAMN sexy car, if it was a girl, id put a ring on it!.

Looks aggressive.

tranzformer 08-23-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jay4prez (Post 56137)
is it just me, or does anyone recall toyota/subaru saying anything about LSD being standard? as this post claims?

Yes. Confirmed at NYIAS per Jack Hollis VP Scion.

tranzformer 08-23-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jay4prez (Post 56137)
is it just me, or does anyone recall toyota/subaru saying anything about LSD being standard? as this post claims?

This is one DAMN sexy car, if it was a girl, id put a ring on it!.

Looks aggressive.


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82mm 4g63 08-23-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 55827)
Why would not a rich person drive his Ferrari sturday evening to show-off, and a Toyota FR-S on sunday after-noon to gain driving experience on a car that cost nothing for him and is not too dangerious?

Reason 1: He's rich
Reason 2: He owns a Ferrari.

I know you're not insinuating that the Scion will be more fun to drive than the Ferrari. I'm trying to think why, if I were rich enough to afford a Ferrari, would I ever even think about buying a Scion. :iono:

Dimman 08-23-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63 (Post 56170)
Reason 1: He's rich
Reason 2: He owns a Ferrari.

I know you're not insinuating that the Scion will be more fun to drive than the Ferrari. I'm trying to think why, if I were rich enough to afford a Ferrari, would I ever even think about buying a Scion. :iono:

Because ricecar.

Allch Chcar 08-23-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 56171)
Because ricecar.

Ban pls. kthanksbai!

tranzformer 08-23-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 56171)
Because ricecar.

Tofu delivery car?

Allch Chcar 08-23-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 56180)
Tofu delivery car?

Tofu is from soybeans. It would have to be some very special rice to be delivered by car.

Giccin 08-23-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 56184)
Tofu is from soybeans. It would have to be some very special rice to be delivered by car.

Mochi!!! Lol

Dimman 08-23-2011 10:57 PM

Heh.

R_E_L 08-24-2011 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63 (Post 56170)
Reason 1: He's rich
Reason 2: He owns a Ferrari.

I know you're not insinuating that the Scion will be more fun to drive than the Ferrari. I'm trying to think why, if I were rich enough to afford a Ferrari, would I ever even think about buying a Scion. :iono:

i think you misunderstood him. he saying that if the dude is rich enough to have the ferrari, what difference is it spending a bit extra to also have a car he can thrash around on the side.

tranzformer 08-24-2011 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by R_E_L (Post 56215)
i think you misunderstood him. he saying that if the dude is rich enough to have the ferrari, what difference is it spending a bit extra to also have a car he can thrash around on the side.

Why thrash around a Scion when you could thrash around a Ferrari? :iono:

Levi 08-24-2011 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63 (Post 56170)
Reason 1: He's rich
Reason 2: He owns a Ferrari.

I know you're not insinuating that the Scion will be more fun to drive than the Ferrari. I'm trying to think why, if I were rich enough to afford a Ferrari, would I ever even think about buying a Scion. :iono:

Because if you want to be able to drive your 500 PS Ferrari to the limits, you have first to be able to drive a 200 PS Sportscar to its limits, and don't tell me everybody is able to, maybe you because you already have exprience, but it is not in a 3 day Ferrari driving stage, that you become a professional/very good experienced driver. Look at "Mr. Beans", he is rich but is a good driver and is a car enthusiast. Even he could end up buying the TOYOBARU.

Tyandriel 08-24-2011 08:50 AM

i go so far and say, that more than 50% of the Ferrari owners never drove their italian babies somewhere near the limits... some wheelspin doesn´t count :D

Allch Chcar 08-24-2011 11:37 AM

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Mochi!!! Lol

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Matador 08-24-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 56218)
Because if you want to be able to drive your 500 PS Ferrari to the limits, you have first to be able to drive a 200 PS Sportscar to its limits, and don't tell me everybody is able to, maybe you because you already have exprience, but it is not in a 3 day Ferrari driving stage, that you become a professional/very good experienced driver. Look at "Mr. Beans", he is rich but is a good driver and is a car enthusiast. Even he could end up buying the TOYOBARU.


Exactly this :iono:

Dragonitti 08-24-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 55827)
Why would not a rich person drive his Ferrari sturday evening to show-off, and a Toyota FR-S on sunday after-noon to gain driving experience on a car that cost nothing for him and is not too dangerious?



Ummm, can someone translate this for me.

tranzformer 08-24-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 56254)
Ummm, can someone translate this for me.

If you own a Ferrari you should never drive it because you don't know how to. Instead you should drive a FT86. So if you buy a Ferrari you need to get a Scion as well.

serialk11r 08-24-2011 06:40 PM

As much as Levi can get annoying, it's a bit harsh to say that. I think most people are reading: if you have a Ferrari, you can use the cheaper car to practice on without risking a lot of cost in damages.

tranzformer 08-24-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 56266)
As much as Levi can get annoying, it's a bit harsh to say that. I think most people are reading: if you have a Ferrari, you can use the cheaper car to practice on without risking a lot of cost in damages.


But if you can afford a Ferrari you could care less about the damage and will just a buy a new one. Why would someone with money and "status" in society decide to buy a Scion (USA) when they could afford any car they want. If they suck that badly at driving, they probably just have the Ferrari for looks/status and could care less about driving the Ferrari to the limit. I know we all love the FT-86 project, but no need to hype this car up as a god-send. It is great and all, but if I had $$$$ to spend on whatever car I wanted, it wouldn't even enter my list of possibilities.

Giccin 08-24-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 56266)
As much as Levi can get annoying, it's a bit harsh to say that. I think most people are reading: if you have a Ferrari, you can use the cheaper car to practice on without risking a lot of cost in damages.

Yes. To both. Lol

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 56273)
But if you can afford a Ferrari you could care less about the damage and will just a buy a new one. Why would someone with money and "status" in society decide to buy a Scion (USA) when they could afford any car they want. If they suck that badly at driving, they probably just have the Ferrari for looks/status and could care less about driving the Ferrari to the limit. I know we all love the FT-86 project, but no need to hype this car up as a god-send. It is great and all, but if I had $$$$ to spend on whatever car I wanted, it wouldn't even enter my list of possibilities.

+1

Least thats what I thought. Some of the richest people I know won't even touch a car under 60k. And some I know would drive cheap around so people would stop harassing them.

ichitaka05 08-24-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 56273)
But if you can afford a Ferrari you could care less about the damage and will just a buy a new one. Why would someone with money and "status" in society decide to buy a Scion (USA) when they could afford any car they want. If they suck that badly at driving, they probably just have the Ferrari for looks/status and could care less about driving the Ferrari to the limit. I know we all love the FT-86 project, but no need to hype this car up as a god-send. It is great and all, but if I had $$$$ to spend on whatever car I wanted, it wouldn't even enter my list of possibilities.

Or at least buy same drivetrain layout as Ferrari. Example, If I was rich (I wish) and owned Ferrari 430 and I didn't want to break that 430 (just in case), I'll prob buy MR2/S, Elise, or some other MR layout cheaper sports car (than 430) and join local track event to skill up my driving skills. I would prob keep in same or close power/weight ratio w 430.

...that's just an example

tranzformer 08-24-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 56278)
Or at least buy same drivetrain layout as Ferrari. Example, If I was rich (I wish) and owned Ferrari 430 and I didn't want to break that 430 (just in case), I'll prob buy MR2/S, Elise, or some other MR layout cheaper sports car (than 430) and join local track event to skill up my driving skills. I would prob keep in same or close power/weight ratio w 430.

...that's just an example


Yup, that would make more sense to me.

Marrk 08-24-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 56254)
Ummm, can someone translate this for me.



That would be dangerious. I will not attempt it. :cool:

Marrk 08-24-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 56218)
Because if you want to be able to drive your 500 PS Ferrari to the limits,


I've got nothing against Ferraris. Certainly, I wouldn't kick one out of bed on a cold and rainy night. But I cannot imagine getting a Ferrari anywhere near its potential for fun while driving on the streets. You need a race track for that. Or a deserted air base. That's why a 200 hp FT-86 (or a super-light 125 hp MX-5) might be more fun to drive in many, if not most, day-to-day situations.

A lot of us here are already talking about swapping the FT-86 engine for a more powerful one, or adding FI. Fine. Get 500 hp out of it. But then what will you do? Burn through rear tires doing donuts in the Burger King parking lot?



But, to get back to Pebble Beach, I think the car was there because a car lover is a car lover is a car lover. "Rich guy" does not always equal "snob." Maybe our sweet little FT-86 is going to turn everybody's head, not just ours.

82mm 4g63 08-24-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 56303)
I've got nothing against Ferraris. Certainly, I wouldn't kick one out of bed on a cold and rainy night. But I cannot imagine getting a Ferrari anywhere near its potential for fun while driving on the streets. You need a race track for that. Or a deserted air base. That's why a 200 hp FT-86 (or a super-light 125 hp MX-5) might be more fun to drive in many, if not most, day-to-day situations.

What day-to-day situations are you referring to? I'll suffer while drive this...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...mage_large.jpg
...around town any day. Have fun in that MX5/FRS/BRZ. :burnrubber:

Marrk 08-24-2011 10:44 PM

^^ I ain't risin' to your bait.


Besides, you drive a Mazda. A rotary, no less. What do you know? :D

82mm 4g63 08-24-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 56313)
^^ I ain't risin' to your bait.


Besides, you drive a Mazda. A rotary, no less. What do you know? :D

lol

Dimman 08-24-2011 11:08 PM

I'm thinking the Pebble Beach thing is some Scion underground marketing. We're all supposed to be thinking: "Hey BRoZ! Did you see Scion totally be rebellious and crash those rich guys' car party? Lets all go buy Scions 'cause that is totally cool and representative of our demographic!"

Allch Chcar 08-25-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 56254)
Ummm, can someone translate this for me.

"If you are rich enough to afford a Ferrari why not buy a FR-S and abuse that so you can keep your "baby"(your Ferrari (insert Model)) in good shape.

Because if don't have the skills/experience for a 200PS car, no way can you handle a 500PS car at it's limits."

Okay, I tried but understanding Italian language and culture isn't on of my strengths.

I personally don't care for Levi's taste in cars and don't agree with his expectations for the FR-S but I can kind of understand where he might be coming with this.

kuruma 08-25-2011 03:06 PM

What the hell are you all talking about? Clearly a ferrari will be way better to drive than an frs.
Just because you are not driving it to 'its limits' doesnt meant its not fun as hell. I've owned one 500rwhp car and another 670rwhp car. They were a blast to drive. Jumping on the highway, or a little spirited driving was extremely exciting. Driving my friends 250rwhp car was not as fun, even though I was closer to its limits.


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