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CharlieChaos 09-07-2012 01:15 PM

Driving car with bad VVTI gear need help
 
Ok somthey said my VVTI gear needs to be replaced Scion Corp is telling me I shouldn't drive the car and the dealership is telling me I am fine to drive it and I need to drop off my rental and get my car anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

QFry 09-07-2012 01:30 PM

been driving with it on for 1000+ miles and no issues...as a plus you never have to turn off traction control...but that is just me

.Alex 09-07-2012 01:31 PM

Wait, is the car not repaired yet? I would take Scion Corp's word over a stealership and let them eat the cost of the rental until its fixed.

CharlieChaos 09-07-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by QFry (Post 427469)
been driving with it on for 1000+ miles and no issues...as a plus you never have to turn off traction control...but that is just me

I guess my biggest concern is the Scion Rep said he doesnt suggest driving the car but the dealer is telling me its ok to drive it.

Calling a larger dealership they told me anyone they had with the issue is being put into a rental until the parts come in.

I'm so torn >.<

QFry 09-07-2012 01:40 PM

i told the Toyota Master tech (who has already done a this repair on another FR-S) i will be driving it and he said it was fine...especially since parts were/are a week out. Checked the oil and nothing indicating problems, there is no ECU caused loss of power (no matter what you feel in the seat of your pants) and no indication of wear/tear on actual cam gear...so IMO only it is safe to drive with the CEL/SL on until a permanent is made available...

DarkSunrise 09-07-2012 01:41 PM

Been trying to figure this out myself. At least it appears the cam gear/timing is only slipping at idle. I don't think anyone has gotten misfires/CELs at higher rpms, where the chance of damaging the engine is likely greater.

speedy racer 09-07-2012 01:47 PM

2down vote
A flashing check engine light means you may be doing damage to the catalytic converter if you continue to drive the vehicle. A solid CEL not urgent.

CharlieChaos 09-07-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy racer (Post 427500)
2down vote
A flashing check engine light means you may be doing damage to the catalytic converter if you continue to drive the vehicle. A solid CEL not urgent.

Ok this makes me feel better knowing this.


The only time I felt a loss of power was in idle and directly after the lights turned on and didn't feel it since.

01s0uljah 09-07-2012 02:51 PM

Didn't the TSB get pulled off for evaluation? The TSB got pulled off by Subaru of America and Subaru of Canada and I'm still waiting for a new official TSB.

KingRohan 09-07-2012 02:57 PM

I didn't want them pointing a finger, and blaming me for damage and voiding my warranty/hassling me cause the CEL light was on and flashing.

Call it paranoid, but you never what they'll throw at you.

QFry 09-07-2012 03:28 PM

if flashing do not drive...if not flashing drive it until it breaks, that is what warranty is for...if you are going to lose the car for a month or two (as some on here have) at least make it have been worth losing it for that period of time (once again my Opinion)

Razz 09-07-2012 03:43 PM

How come there are no links to official TSB's?

01s0uljah 09-07-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Razz (Post 427717)
How come there are no links to official TSB's?

The TSBs were pulled off for evaluation. I believe they are working on a new one.. at least I hope they are...

Floggin Tires 09-07-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieChaos (Post 427569)
The only time I felt a loss of power was in idle

:laughabove: Sorry but... :bellyroll:

CharlieChaos 09-07-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floggin Tires (Post 427809)
:laughabove: Sorry but... :bellyroll:

You know what I mean RPM dropped and car almost stalled

On a side note I was given my car back and then Toyota Corp called and told the dealer to put me back into the rental

Floggin Tires 09-07-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieChaos (Post 427844)
You know what I mean RPM dropped and car almost stalled

Yes i know.
Just had to.;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieChaos (Post 427844)
On a side note I was given my car back and then Toyota Corp called and told the dealer to put me back into the rental

Hope this all works out for you.
Best of luck.

CharlieChaos 09-07-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floggin Tires (Post 427855)
Yes i know.
Just had to.;)

Hope this all works out for you.
Best of luck.

Yea I get a call Monday with an ETA on parts right now it's 1-2 months

#87 09-07-2012 07:44 PM

If you have an accident because the traction control is off, what are they going to say? If they refuse to pay your rental I'd get in writing they are telling you to drive your car with a non function TC and VSC and then contact corporate.

Touge Monster 09-07-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieChaos (Post 427448)
Ok somthey said my VVTI gear needs to be replaced Scion Corp is telling me I shouldn't drive the car and the dealership is telling me I am fine to drive it and I need to drop off my rental and get my car anyone have any suggestions on what to do?


Keep the rental dont drive the car untill the problem is fixed. Toyota should have no problems covering the rental. Toyota is aware that there is a shortage of repair parts availiable right now I curently have a car here awaiting repairs we are expecting the car will be down for about a month. We were instructed to have the customer return and provide a rental while the repairs are completed, I dont see how or why your case should be any different.

CharlieChaos 09-08-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Monster (Post 428129)
Keep the rental dont drive the car untill the problem is fixed. Toyota should have no problems covering the rental. Toyota is aware that there is a shortage of repair parts availiable right now I curently have a car here awaiting repairs we are expecting the car will be down for about a month. We were instructed to have the customer return and provide a rental while the repairs are completed, I dont see how or why your case should be any different.

Long and short of it is dealer told me to pickup my car so I called my rep ivwas assigned and left him a msg that I was told to drive the vehicle and I would need a verification from Corp that this is in so many words ok. I planned on asking the dealership for something in writing telling me they would not cover a rental and advised me to drive my car with no working TC and a bad VVTI gear. By the time I got the the dealership Corp had already called and told them to keep me in the rental until m vehicle was fixed.

The rep called me as I was leaving the dealership for the 3rd time that day and told me once my vehicle was fixed they would lookmat the time I was without my vehicle and talk to me about compensation such as making my car payment depending on the amount of time the repair takes and also extended warranties. He ended with we want to make this right for the inconvience and they would give me and update 9/10 on parts


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