How many of you actually drifted your 86/FRS?
 

I'm not talking about 2 inch powerslides or chicano u-turns.

Well? :popcorn:

i dont have anywhere close that i can try.... sure there is a couple turn arounds/dead ends in a industrial park which isnt dangerous late at night but there is always obstacles around that are dangerous to my cars health for someone who never really drifted.

I did last weekend here:

http://www.sdr-scca.com/solo2/schedu...2012-08-25.pdf

Tons of fun. This car is very easy to control in a 4 wheel slide.

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:cry: how did i not know about this :(

There's still a few more events, come out!

http://www.sdr-scca.com/solo2/schedule/

Last weekend was my first event ever.

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Nothing awesome, but just some cones in a parking lot and keeping it in first and second. Just to feel how she holds in the corners.

I've done some drifting, the Prius tires definitely help it get sideways. Not to mention the retarded factory -1.5 camber in the rear.

It's alright but only if you're staying under 15mph. Just not enough power. And 15mph isn't real drifting.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll have you a REAL drift video with my recent power upgrade.

Tell me more about how rear negative camber helps drifting

If anything the factory camber will make the car understeer.....

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...28656351_n.jpg

We've been known to get a little sideways...

I forgot to mention the front camber, which is set to ZERO. Proper drift setups always run more camber in the front than the rear. Toyobaru obviously gave the rear more negative camber from the factory so it could break traction easier.

If I ran a high speed drift setup it would probably end up being somewhere around -4F/-2.5R. But that's just a guess.

But then again, the FR-S wasn't supposed to have a drift setup from the factory.

You need to take a step back from your "expert" opinion on drifting. Your opinion of it is that drifting immense amounts of requires raw power, which it doesn't. I drifted the shit out of AE86. Stock bluetop with an intake and exhaust on an OPEN diff. It slid like a champ. That car had maybe 100hp to the wheels.

My FR-S slides just as well on 18x8s running Hankook Ventus tires which have substantially more grip than the prius tires, and more HP to the wheels You do NOT need "crazy HP" or a turbo, so stop preaching about your lack of ability without power. That's your preference, and your style. It's not a requirement to drift. Many others have no issues drifting in this car, long sustained drifts too, by finding the balance points, and keeping speed.

The AE86 is FAMOUS for drifting and is 250% driftable at stock. Hell with just coilovers and an LSD you can drift it even better, no extra power required. This car is the same way.

You missed the part where I was referring to higher speed drifting. Neither 86's can hold a higher speed drift and continue to spin the tires with stock power. I also never said it needed crazy horsepower or anything, more power does help though; that's a given. If you don't believe that then you are sadly mistaken. I also never mentioned I was an expert on the subject anywhere.

Seems like you have a lot of bottled up anger from other people posting about how they need mass amounts of raw power to drift. I didn't mention that anywhere in my posts, only that I believe that it needs more. Personally I'll be running upwards of 300whp which is WAY MORE than enough for drifting. But drifting isn't the only thing I do with the car.

Your average Toyobaru driver isn't an expert drifter and might need more power to learn how to drift. Nobody is an pro right off the bat it balancing speed, power, body roll, suspension, etc etc.

Can we please keep the drift purist conversation out of this casual thread? There doesn't need to be any hating going on in here.

On a side note: I applaud you for drifting a 100hp vehicle with an open differential. That takes skill.

No-one needs more power to drift. I'm not angry, I just don't like the way you post. You're the wrong person to hand out drifting advice. If anyone wants to learn to how to drift they should start on underpowered cars, and learn balance and control. Then you step up the power. That's how you get really good. Power hides the mistakes since you can mash the gas and suddenly be sliding.

lolwut? You came into this thread saying "You can't really drift in this car, you need MORE POWER." Now you're saying it's a casual thread? Your words:

Stop calling out what other people are doing as "not real." That is why I felt the need to respond to you.

Thanks, but I suck at it.

For the most part I agree here. But 15mph "drifting" can't be considered anything other than controlled donuts.

oh snap
Cali vs. Texas

Who cares? Drift is grip's mistake.
































































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ORLY:slap:

I heard him say his mom can beat up your dad and that rainbow elephants are purple when put in water.

Ive been doing some small drifts by just pushing the car hard around some turns, you know just quick little side ways. I was driving a crazy curvy/narrow road and taking a hard turn in second and just quickly whacked the clutch and damb that was scary went real sideways real quick and started over steering but I kept it under control(this all happened in the blink of an eye, any less of a driver probably would have wrecked) I was at a wide intersection today And from the light I was turning left, went pretty straight toward the left bend around 6k rpm I shifted to second hard mid turn and got a little sideways. In the rain though forget about it I'm like a pro drifter I can hold it mad slidewayz with ease.

Yes, primarily street =X, but I have hit one event so far with my FR-S.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWIRAMA5jOE"]First time drifting my Scion FR-S - YouTube[/ame]

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...d46ecceb_o.jpg

well..... ;)

RLY :thumbup:

Nice! You guys in chicago have a badass track. I told Josh(from Risky Devil) he was so damn lucky to have that place nearby a while back.

In regards to the conversation above, I'll agree with the statement of starting off small. Definitely the way to go. You'll learn more about the weight balance of the car and you'll learn to drive the car with your experience instead of your right foot. Once you have gotten to the point where you have pushed the car to the limits of it's stock power and need higher speed, more grip, more power... then, it would be a great time to do so. At that point, you have the driving knowledge and capabilities. The extra power, at that point, would just be an extra luxury. Learning to keep momentum up in this car is the key.

We've done some sliding in an FRS here 100% bone stock and it was capable. I felt that the car would benefit more with more in-depth suspension tuning as opposed to extra power. Loads of fun though.

I've been in and slid too many cars to count and I have to say, in all honesty, I actually kind of prefer the lower power. 400hp SR w/ GT3071R is badass and really grippy and fast.. but then I get in a T28 <300hp SR car and it feels so much better. It's not overdone with large amounts of power or grip. It's definitely faster and grippier, but it feels more enjoyable. That's just my personal preference though. I was debating going forced induction with this car when I got it but after messing with it in it's stock form. I can definitely see staying N/A and trying to bump up an extra 30hp or so.

Love your S14 in the sig. super clean

I have in a competition .... I was not good

Thanks. Appreciate it:D

ok so this might be a dumb statement but i would love some help. having never drifted a rwd on a street i went to a parking lot just to see what i would do. i broke it back end loose a few time but felt like i spent more time under steering than anything (use to awd on dirt) after i left there was a repetitive thudding noise from what i think was my wheels. did i just burn a bald spot in one of my tires or should i be worried. i wasnt using the hand break just taking a turn and hitting the gas to power over

Here is a tip that helped me a lot get the rear wheels broken loose before you start turning. :burnrubber:

Nvm, figured it out. But yea i can't clutch kick yet so breaking the wheels going strait ain't happening

A lot harder but definitely possible with the current setup. First time I hilariously spun out and forgot to clutch in causing it to violently stall. Car wouldn't start for about a minute and when it did it died out without throttle. Turns out a hose came lose.
http://www.lastonehere.com/misc2012/hose.jpg
The hose on the left. Popped it right back in and the CEL went away. Weird.

http://www.lastonehere.com/misc2012/drift826-2.jpg
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Paul from P&L does on a daily basis going to and from home.

Lol

So how is verybody turning there trc and vsc off permanently?

Why are you using the ebrake to soft? There are so many better ways to do it that will offer you more control and a better slide

Yup totally agree!