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random hero 08-29-2012 04:29 PM

XXR527 Chromium black 18x8.75 Hankook Ventus 225-40 Black BRZ
 
Have a lot of parts on the way, the wheels showed up today, just a teaser pic.. tomorrow will be mounted and on the car, hopefully will have suspension sorted out by next week. Offset +35; 19.9 Pounds on my scale

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...611AA01950.jpg

boarder1995 08-29-2012 04:50 PM

Offset? Wheel weight?

mezdup 08-29-2012 09:41 PM

not a huge fan of the black on black on black, but i think these are gonna be pretty nice looking.
Quote:

Originally Posted by boarder1995 (Post 410324)
Offset? Wheel weight?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XXR-527-18-1...53a12e&vxp=mtr

Quote:

Specifications
Wheel Diameter 18"
Wheel Width 8.75"
Color Chromium Black
Bolt Pattern 5-100/5-114.3
Offset +35mm
Backspacing 6.25"
Centerbore 73.1mm
Approx. Weight 21.2 lbs
Manufacturer SKU 52788102N

zoomzoomers 08-29-2012 09:52 PM

Wait. These are $517 for a pair of four rims??? Or am I reading something wrong... :iono:

zoomzoomers 08-29-2012 09:52 PM

BTW, it loooks nice. Can't wait to see how it all turns out. :w00t:

JoeBoxer 08-29-2012 09:55 PM

I like the finish on those, should look good.

random hero 08-29-2012 10:02 PM

Yeah, the finish is pretty cool, in low light they look dark grey/black, in the sunlight they shine like chrome... Pics in about 16 hours!

Wes 08-29-2012 10:31 PM

i like these rims, cant wait to see how it turns out!

lukmanaryadi 08-30-2012 02:07 AM

Looks nice

DarrenDriven 08-30-2012 03:20 AM

Same setup here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15163

deedz 08-30-2012 03:58 AM

:mad0259: cant decide between these or grids

GregV 08-30-2012 08:11 AM

Good choice OP, I have the same set on order for my SWP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 410988)
Wait. These are $517 for a pair of four rims??? Or am I reading something wrong... :iono:

You have it right :)

NYNOMAD 08-30-2012 04:46 PM

waiting for the updated pics!

dori. 08-30-2012 05:00 PM

I love the look and price of them but I'm glad I didn't get them.

random hero 08-30-2012 06:05 PM

Alright... Installed on the car, and really liking them. First thing I noticed, about 80% LESS road noise, incredible how quiet these tires are compared to the Michelins. If I could go back and do-over on tire size, I would have went with 235's, but live & learn. Next set will be bigger, just to protect the rims from the shit streets where I live. Def changed the handling of the car, really happy.

Eibach springs will be here first of next week, as well as camber bolt & whiteline bushings for the rear... That will get me through the winter, when next spring I'll probably go with AST coilovers.

One thing, in my opinion, thats a HUGE plus with these.... Endless room for BBK (big brake kit). You could put massive set of calipers & rotors under these and still have room to spare. That will be next addition as the weather cools off and car is driven even less (150 miles in 3 weeks :/ ) Next few weeks I'll order a 17" set for track, put some RS3 rubber on them.. Might be a little heavy, but I think they'll make up for it in strength, wheels have a gusseted lip, which I really like. Anyway, now for iPhone pics

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B36647B9F0.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B36C01B025.jpg'
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B377D75D14.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B37D22E6A6.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B372709AFA.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B35B93D06A.jpg

karma003 09-05-2012 07:29 AM

I'm so lost. Idk weither to get this color or the matte bronze ones for my raven frs

random hero 09-05-2012 05:58 PM

Karma, I'll probably pick up a set of bronze 17's for track wheels/tires.

Don't let people tell you that these aren't safe, and perfectly fine for the track, and you need $4000 wheels to go fast... Complete waste of $$$$, I commented in your thread

RAYSSPL 09-05-2012 06:23 PM

If you're going to auto-x, then these wheels are fine since it's low speed. But if you're actually going to go to a track with excess speeds of 80mph+, then definitely these are not track worthy wheels... Looks good though.

uptown 09-06-2012 02:21 AM

Looks good, looking forward to the pictures with eibachs

dori. 09-06-2012 02:28 AM

@RAYSSPL Care to mention why?

random hero 09-06-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAYSSPL (Post 423608)
If you're going to auto-x, then these wheels are fine since it's low speed. But if you're actually going to go to a track with excess speeds of 80mph+, then definitely these are not track worthy wheels... Looks good though.

Do you have any data or facts to back this up.... because I'm calling total :bs:

Let me guess, you need 11 pound wheel that costs $1200/each to be fast on the track...... Any idea how many RACE vehicles are using these wheels, rotas, etc. It's ridiculous people are saying these aren't track worthy

These wheels are MORE than adequate to use on the track, to use for auto-x, and very commonly used by people who actually use their cars on track, even in competition .....

RAYSSPL 09-06-2012 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random hero (Post 424657)
Do you have any data or facts to back this up.... because I'm calling total :bs:

Let me guess, you need 11 pound wheel that costs $1200/each to be fast on the track...... Any idea how many RACE vehicles are using these wheels, rotas, etc. It's ridiculous people are saying these aren't track worthy

These wheels are MORE than adequate to use on the track, to use for auto-x, and very commonly used by people who actually use their cars on track, even in competition .....

They're gravity cast wheels. Google it.

Your guess of "11 pound wheel that costs $1200/each to be fast on the track" is wrong and otherworldly exaggerated. You can buy low pressure cast / flow formed wheel far less. A balance of weight and structural integrity is critical in a high stress component like wheels than constantly endure lateral and forward forces.

Gravity cast wheels fatigue much quicker. That's fact, not hearsay nor BS.

Not that it's a big deal but I would know because I'm a wheel designer and constantly study wheel structural integrity, manufacturing, and even down to the raw materials.

But you are right. Anyone can track these wheels outright. Just don't be surprised when you observe fatigue cracks immediately or if the wheel completely fails.

JoeBoxer 09-10-2012 01:33 AM

Looks like these poke a little on the front without a drop, looking forward to seeing pics with the springs because i'm thinking about getting them in hyper silver.

Killerbee 09-14-2012 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random hero (Post 412850)
Alright... Installed on the car, and really liking them. First thing I noticed, about 80% LESS road noise, incredible how quiet these tires are compared to the Michelins. If I could go back and do-over on tire size, I would have went with 235's, but live & learn. Next set will be bigger, just to protect the rims from the shit streets where I live. Def changed the handling of the car, really happy.

Eibach springs will be here first of next week, as well as camber bolt & whiteline bushings for the rear... That will get me through the winter, when next spring I'll probably go with AST coilovers.

One thing, in my opinion, thats a HUGE plus with these.... Endless room for BBK (big brake kit). You could put massive set of calipers & rotors under these and still have room to spare. That will be next addition as the weather cools off and car is driven even less (150 miles in 3 weeks :/ ) Next few weeks I'll order a 17" set for track, put some RS3 rubber on them.. Might be a little heavy, but I think they'll make up for it in strength, wheels have a gusseted lip, which I really like. Anyway, now for iPhone pics

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B36647B9F0.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B36C01B025.jpg'
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B377D75D14.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B37D22E6A6.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B372709AFA.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...B35B93D06A.jpg


Thanks a lot for sharing pictures of your Car with the XXR527. I'm about to order a set of them and was not sure if they will look good on the car, however your thread helped me to order them right now :-)

Any way you could make a close up picture of the wheel/tire to see how much "streched" the 225 tires look? I'm not sure currently if I should go for 225 or 245 tires (Price on the 245 is about 70% higher than the 225 ones)

Luke.Cariveau 09-14-2012 08:07 PM

Crap that's cheap! Nice.

ill roller 09-14-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random hero (Post 412850)
Might be a little heavy, but I think they'll make up for it in strength

LOL, funniest thing I've read all week.

random hero 09-14-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill roller (Post 441256)
LOL, funniest thing I've read all week.

Jesus... Can you wheel weight geeks troll somewhere else. :bonk:

NotSoJDM 09-16-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAYSSPL (Post 424728)
They're gravity cast wheels. Google it.

Your guess of "11 pound wheel that costs $1200/each to be fast on the track" is wrong and otherworldly exaggerated. You can buy low pressure cast / flow formed wheel far less. A balance of weight and structural integrity is critical in a high stress component like wheels than constantly endure lateral and forward forces.

Gravity cast wheels fatigue much quicker. That's fact, not hearsay nor BS.

Not that it's a big deal but I would know because I'm a wheel designer and constantly study wheel structural integrity, manufacturing, and even down to the raw materials.

But you are right. Anyone can track these wheels outright. Just don't be surprised when you observe fatigue cracks immediately or if the wheel completely fails.

As a wheel designer, can you share some factual data? So far, all I see is open ended statements that you have yet to back up. "Gravity cast wheels fatigue 'much' quicker?" Ok, compared to what, and by how much. Lets see some quantifiable information.

Seeing as how we have a 400hp ls1 swapped 240sx running Rotas on 255 Hoosiers at the track, I find it hard to believe you have any experience with wheel design.

Not to mention that you start out your argument against a gravity cast wheel, yet Enkei's number one selling race wheel (RPF1s) are a gravity cast wheel....

OP. Your wheels look great.

RAYSSPL 09-17-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotSoJDM (Post 443995)
As a wheel designer, can you share some factual data? So far, all I see is open ended statements that you have yet to back up. "Gravity cast wheels fatigue 'much' quicker?" Ok, compared to what, and by how much. Lets see some quantifiable information.

Seeing as how we have a 400hp ls1 swapped 240sx running Rotas on 255 Hoosiers at the track, I find it hard to believe you have any experience with wheel design.

Not to mention that you start out your argument against a gravity cast wheel, yet Enkei's number one selling race wheel (RPF1s) are a gravity cast wheel....

OP. Your wheels look great.

You are flat out wrong. Enkei's RPF1 is NOT gravity cast. It may start out that way due to hot liquid aluminum pouring, but that process is just the beginning. It is flow formed-- that's the technical nomenclature for it [but their in-house term is called "MAT"]. I will say it again--GOOGLE IT. In a sense, the RPF1's is a semi-forged wheel.

If you can't piece the puzzle together and you get the RPF1 wrong--then there's no point in providing you "factual data". All the n00bs ask for that too anyways.

Piece the puzzle yourself as I certainly most did. I already provided couple of the pieces, but I won't hand it to you in a silver platter. I'm not defensive about it. It is what it is. If I'm wrong, I won't hesitate to admit.

But at the end of the day true facts are true facts. False facts are useless and not facts. In which, I will now end any discussion with you since you are providing false facts.

SkAsphalt 09-17-2012 02:46 PM

Correct, experienced, informed or educated... or perhaps none of the above...you're coming across like an idiot. 1. you said "n00bs," it is not the early 2000's and we not playing against you in Tribes or Counter Strike. 2. Who even says "false facts?" There are no such things, perhaps in philosophy, but there a false fact is allowed to exist so that it may define itself. Someone can claim facts to be true which are actually incorrect but that does not make them "false facts," that makes them inaccurate, incorrect, wrong, fallacy, etc.

The point I am trying to make to make here is this; if you are certain than provide information and resources to back it up. If not, just stay quite.

OP This rims are delicious, I have been thinking of buying the same ones in bronze for my car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAYSSPL (Post 445167)

If you can't piece the puzzle together and you get the RPF1 wrong--then there's no point in providing you "factual data". All the n00bs ask for that too anyways.

Piece the puzzle yourself as I certainly most did. I already provided couple of the pieces, but I won't hand it to you in a silver platter. I'm not defensive about it. It is what it is. If I'm wrong, I won't hesitate to admit.

But at the end of the day true facts are true facts. False facts are useless and not facts. In which, I will now end any discussion with you since you are providing false facts.


NotSoJDM 09-17-2012 02:46 PM

Way to contradict yourself by saying I'm flat out wrong and the next sentence say the wheels may "start out that way".

Search "rpf1 gravity cast" on google. The first result is from tire rack and it specifically says the rpf1 and pf01 are gravity cast wheels...

And you were saying? I was flat out right?

epson1 09-17-2012 04:49 PM

I just want to chime in I've hit 105mph reverse entries in my 1jz s14 drift car and pretty much beat the shit out of it with dirt drops and other harsh things. All on XXRs. I track my car harder than you and my wheels haven't failed....

ill roller 09-17-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random hero (Post 441371)
Jesus... Can you wheel weight geeks troll somewhere else. :bonk:

I could give less of a shit about wheel weights, I just find the use of the term strength very funny when referring to XXR's.

empower-auto 09-17-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill roller (Post 445582)
I could give less of a shit about wheel weights, I just find the use of the term strength very funny when referring to XXR's.

I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

RYU 09-17-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random hero (Post 410266)
Have a lot of parts on the way, the wheels showed up today, just a teaser pic.. tomorrow will be mounted and on the car, hopefully will have suspension sorted out by next week. Offset +35; 19.9 Pounds on my scale

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...611AA01950.jpg

Any dead-on shots of how much they poke when lowered with the 225s?

Subscribing for that. Thanks!

ill roller 09-17-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 445598)
I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

empower-auto 09-17-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill roller (Post 445691)
I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Fail under what circumstance? If it's due to contact - that's life holmes.

Also - if any wheels were just failing under load they'd be PLASTERED over the car forums. Remember the warped Rota?

RYU 09-17-2012 06:47 PM

Can we set aside the wheel debate and get back on-topic please??

I think the people actually buying these wheels know what they're getting into.

random hero 09-20-2012 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill roller (Post 445691)
I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Seriously .... go troll in another thread. It's easy to sit in front of the computer and shit talk people on these forums, I get it.. but it's flat out lame.

You want attention this bad shave your man-frow into a heart and walk naked into a senior citizens home, but take the interweb shit talking somewhere else, your douchery is crowding the thread :thanks:

random hero 09-20-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epson1 (Post 445572)
I just want to chime in I've hit 105mph reverse entries in my 1jz s14 drift car and pretty much beat the shit out of it with dirt drops and other harsh things. All on XXRs. I track my car harder than you and my wheels haven't failed....

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 445598)
I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 445708)
Fail under what circumstance? If it's due to contact - that's life holmes.

Also - if any wheels were just failing under load they'd be PLASTERED over the car forums. Remember the warped Rota?

Thanks guys... real world info is priceless (for those of who you spend hours reading "facts" online). Whatever the construction method is, these wheels are strong, in the fact people track them, beat on them and they haven't failed because of a design flaw.

I actually hold race licenses, been around real race tracks (not empty k-mart parking lot on a Saturday night @ 3am w/neon lights on my civic) and have seen countless more people running "gravity cast" wheels like Rota, XXR, Enkei's than these high $$$$, superior construction, blinged out wheels. I have yet to ever see first hand, or read online of an XXR, ROTA, whatever gravity cast wheel fail under normal/track driving.... so please.... put your wheel design knowledge in your backpack, and penis's back in your shorts and debate the facts in your own thread, por favor :happy0180:


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