No winning argument
 

So today went to lunch w few of co-workers and while waiting in line we were talking about AE86 (cuz today is 86 day).

Anyways, while talking, some dude behind me start talking w us and this is how conversation went.

dude: "AE86? That's weak! They don't have hp like Veyron"
me: "Yes, you're correct. iirc 86 only have 130 vs Veyron have over 1,000. BUT you're comparing two different type of cars here."
dude: "So?"
me: "First of all, you're comparing car that was made in 80's vs Veyron which was made 5~6yrs ago."
dude: "How bout Ferrari Testirola? It was made in 80's and they had 400hp"
me: "Ferrari what?"
dude: "Testirola"
co-worker: "You mean Testarossa?"
me: "Again, you gonna compare 5L H12 engine against 1.6L I4 engine. 2 different types of cars"
dude: "How about Supra. They're both made by Toyota. Supra has over 300hp."
me: shakes my head side way and move along

Seriously, made my lunch crappy. Anyone had those kind of no winning argument/conversation? Other person just don't get it, just wanna kill yourself or wanna smack em on back of their head.

I get it alllll the time when it comes to people talking about their camera lens/body or computers. -_-

Your problem was you tried to explain to him where he was wrong.

If you just point and laugh, and call them stupid, it makes them feel awkward and go away defeated.

its ok. the vast majority of people i meet base what they know about cars solely on hp numbers just like the guy u met today. easiest way to prove em wrong is drag their candy ass in to the passenger seat and take them for a ride through some twisties:)

Last week ;) ;)
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If it was me I wouldn't have even engaged dudes first line. I would have just sputtered, turned around, and laughed at him.

I mean... dudes epic line of truth is nearly faultless for those with limited car knowledge.

dude: "Ferrari 458 Italia? That's weak! They don't have hp like Veyron"

No Way! Really? Gold Star bud. (friendly sarcasm inbound)

Haha, yeah that's always good.

Extreme sarcasm wins.

Met too many people that were just like that especially my junior year in high school.

Then again, it was high school, can't expect too much.

That convo is funny. Some people need a good slap.:slap:

my non-winning conversations usually involve trying to hold any kind of scientific debate with creationists. They were fun at first, but now they just make me want to go and cry in a corner for the future of the human race.

Oh jesus, I can relate.

Here's a short list:

[This happened right after I bought my Subaru]
"Why don't you get a VTA BOV, dude? I would just get one of those and let it be. Maybe a really loud one!"
[This is also coming from someone who claims to be a human Subaru encyclopedia.]

/futile argument

[Also directed towards the Subaru]
"Nice turbo! How much boost are you running?" [He's clearly pointing to my alternator]
"Uhh.. A little bit over 9000."

/ignorance

This last one isn't really an argument at all, but it's still sort of funny. A guy brought his old Saab into the shop I hang out at wanting to fix a few things. He insisted upon us changing his turbo oil. Apparently, it hasn't been changed in over 10,000 miles.

I'm not making this up, I promise.

Ichi, I'm surprised you even let the conversation go for that long. You should have turned around the moment he said, "AE86, that's weak"!

It happens all too often and probably worse with motorcycle riders. Since San Diego is a huge miltary town, Marines on bikes are the worst! God Bless them for serving our country but the moment they hop on a bike, they become a bunch of idiots!

hahahaha
this thread makes me lol

i didnt think the 86 was that good. back when it was priced for what it was it was a cool car to have tons of fun in for next to nothing. now they are super expensive and it seems like the miata is the new little guy that people havent caught onto yet. and with that you get irs, better lsd, soft top (for better or worse), less miles, stiffer chssis, airbags, lighter weight, more power, better brakes etc. i dont see anything the ae86 does better aside from sliding around with that rear axle....sorry i had a couple beers and that doesnt really relate to the op in any way but just because the coworker was an idiot doesnt mean we should throw out what he was saying even though the comparison was retarded

Wait...did you say that people haven't caught on to the Miata yet?! Really? There will have been 1,000,000 Miata sold very soon.

Did you read m whole story? Some random guy start talking to me and comparing 86 to absolutely irreverent sports cars (Veyron, Testarossa, Supra). If it was whole 86 talk then, it would of been good conversation, BUT whole time that dude was comparing w big engine big power sports car.

I know the type there was this guy I went to high school with who was trying to tell me that Supras are more designed for drag racing than muscle cars are

Whats worst is he was bragging about how he drove 360km per hour in his stock 94 golf auto.. I converted it for him letting him know thats around 220 mph which would make his car like the 4 fastest thing at the time (no veyrons or aero tt) he would then try and recover by saying he was mistaken by his 360 km claim and what he really meant was 320km

Thats were I gave up talkin to him forever

Any sort of bench racing by magazine numbers, I usually just start drooling and punching myself in the head. "Dude, but for $XX,XXX that the M3 is more expensive I could buy a [insert FI here] and totally waste it with my Suzuki Kizashi!"

A hardcore pro life guy went into a half hour long rant after he asked my stance and I told him I didn't care. He started pulling books out of his bag and calling me ignorant when I told him I didn't want to read them. He gave me the cliffs anyway and cited all sorts of horrible details then got red in the face and stormed off when I said I still wanted to kill babies.

AMD vs. Intel. PS3 vs. XBox. Coke vs. Pepsi. Mustang vs. Camaro. Han shot first.

Damn Lucas and his revisionist history.

Is this related to Star Wars of Cap. Han Solo? or was this related to that Han guy in Fast and Furious?

Gee.. ate too much sushi today....

Intel
Xbox
Coke
Mustang
Correct

When idiots argue like this, sometimes I'll make up just the most out of this world story that never happened. It's even better when they act like they heard about it.
"What? You didn't hear about that AE86 they put two 2JZs in and it makes almost 2000 horsepower? Where have you been?"

How is the Han shot first even an argument? In the original he clearly shot first. It is an insult to Greedo's professionalism (and therefor Han's, by being cornered by him) that he misses from 2 feet away in the cleaned up 'improved' versions.

Screw you, Lucas!

(Next he's going to want to edit out Indiana Jones shooting the last swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark...)

Oh, and dual 2JZs would be closer to 3200 hp.

What's that Bugatti? You've got quad turbos? Well, I've got TWIN 2J's!!!

Im kinda hoping people don't catch on to the MR- S just yet, I mean fun to drive car and 35MPG with just a lack of luggage space that's almost better than a Miata if you factor fuel econ, Miata has more space lol. and Im sorry Ichi... that an idiot you had to put up with

Hahaha, 86 and Supra eh?

Wish I was there...I currently own both. Would've had fun with the moron.