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Dave-ROR 08-27-2012 05:43 PM

I think I bring too much crap with me to the track...
 
At least when it's ~1,100 miles away.. most packed BRZ?

Start with all of this:
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1316.jpg
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1320.jpg
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1321.jpg

Get this portion in:
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1324.jpg
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1325.jpg

And the rest...
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1328.jpg
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1330.jpg

Combined with Eibach Sportlines the rear was a wee bit low... :o
http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1332.jpg

nyeguy1138 08-27-2012 05:58 PM

Nice! Now I know for sure I will be able to fit my homebrew setup when I get my car :thumbup:

RRnold 08-27-2012 06:18 PM

You have Yuengling... so jelly! :happy0180:


A 1100 miles for a track day!! I would have U Hauled it there.

http://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/Im...ruckTowing.png

kwood9000 08-27-2012 06:18 PM

You might have to adjust your headlights with that load!

Dave-ROR 08-27-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 405902)
You have Yuengling... so jelly! :happy0180:


A 1100 miles for a track day!! I would have U Hauled it there.

http://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/Im...ruckTowing.png

Bah, screw that! So much more fun to drive!

I drank so much Yuengling that trip I'm actually sick of it somehow lol

kwood: I moved the switch to 1 :) At 0 I could see the light going up to the top of semi trailers :o

Draco-REX 08-27-2012 06:24 PM

Wow, man, I don't know how you managed to talk your co-driver into letting you jam him face-first into the trunk like that. :D

http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1324.jpg

Sportsguy83 08-27-2012 06:28 PM

WOW :confused0068::confused0068:

xjohnx 08-27-2012 06:47 PM

extra springs?! you really do come prepared.

YoKeutla 08-27-2012 06:48 PM

So much win in this thread!:thumbup:

Gotta love the LeMons tech inspection stickers on the helmets :respekt:

ngabdala 08-27-2012 08:27 PM

You could fit a meth lab in there

Mitch 08-27-2012 09:04 PM

Get some tire toats. It'll complete the track day package!! Seriously, though, that's impressive. The should a picture like that in dealerships to show how much the car can hold.

Grateful Dave 08-27-2012 09:23 PM

Nice Enkei RPF1's! What size wheels and tires?

ill86 08-27-2012 09:49 PM

Looks good to me! Great job packing!

Have fun!

Dave-ROR 08-27-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 405918)
Wow, man, I don't know how you managed to talk your co-driver into letting you jam him face-first into the trunk like that. :D

LOL had to get them drunk first ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 405948)
extra springs?! you really do come prepared.

I actually ran the first day at Mid Ohio with stock springs and the second day with Eibach Sportlines :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoKeutla (Post 405953)
So much win in this thread!:thumbup:

Gotta love the LeMons tech inspection stickers on the helmets :respekt:

Lemons is bleh :P I run Chump now, much better. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 406181)
Get some tire toats. It'll complete the track day package!! Seriously, though, that's impressive. The should a picture like that in dealerships to show how much the car can hold.

I drive on the good tires, the OEM wheel is just a full size spare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave (Post 406217)
Nice Enkei RPF1's! What size wheels and tires?

17x8 with 235/40/17 AD08s.

xjohnx 08-27-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 406419)

I actually ran the first day at Mid Ohio with stock springs and the second day with Eibach Sportlines :thumbup:

Impressions!?

Dave-ROR 08-28-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 406454)
Impressions!?

Working on the review. Sadly my data logger battery died after 1 lap with the sportlines. :(

However based on video it looks like 2-3 seconds on average faster and 1.5 seconds diff between the fastest lap with both.

However, there is some variance there as I was 1,100 miles from home in a brand new car for the first time on Mid Ohio. My lines seemed decent enough (not perfect but not bad for learning it on my own in a couple of sessions) but I was NOT pushing 10/10ths.

Car was in VSC sport and TC flashed like crazy, even though it almost never cut in. It flashes like crazy under braking and when hitting the curbing. I left in in VSC Sport for the same reasons I wasn't driving 10/10ths. It'll be good to get some time with the car on a track I know well, like CMP, Sebring, etc.

Here's a couple of laps: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RrZ26sM6Y"]2 laps at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course in a Subaru BRZ - ITR Expo 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

jadewbj 08-28-2012 11:38 AM

Wow, that is a ton of stuff. That is crazy that it all fits.

Cornerman 08-29-2012 09:21 AM

Great video, Dave. Thanks for posting it. Smooth driving!

Taking mine to Mid Ohio in a couple of weeks for the PCA DE, and I've got a few setup questions:

I'm using stock size Pilot Super Sports on 8" wide PF01s - what would be good cold and hot tire pressures?

Planning to run max available neg camber with camber bolts - good idea? How much rear toe in with that (in degrees)?

Ive ordered pre-bedded XP10/XP8s to run on dedicated Centric Premium blanks - before I install them, is this a good combination for this chassis?

Everything else on the car is stock (except for the brake fluid).

Dave-ROR 08-29-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornerman (Post 409424)
Great video, Dave. Thanks for posting it. Smooth driving!

Thanks!

Quote:

I'm using stock size Pilot Super Sports on 8" wide PF01s - what would be good cold and hot tire pressures?
I was running about 32-33 cold, never checked hot since I was too busy (working the event) to do back to back sessions anyways. I'd probably start lower next time though, probably 30 or so is what I'll try next. Some of the guys that have tracked these a lot already like Matt Andrews would probably be able to answer this better.

Quote:

Planning to run max available neg camber with camber bolts - good idea? How much rear toe in with that (in degrees)?
I didn't run the camber bolts (had them, just couldn't find them at the time to install them), my alignment was:
L R
Front Camber
-1.0 -1.2

Front Toe
0.01d 0.02d (.03 total)

Rear Camber
-2.7 -2.3

Rear Toe
.12d .12d (.24 total)

I requested 0 front and .12 each in the rear.

With this setup the car did push a little, it wasn't bad and I made it conservative on purpose due to Mid Ohio's more dangerous nature and my unfamiliarity with the car and the new springs.

Quote:

Ive ordered pre-bedded XP10/XP8s to run on dedicated Centric Premium blanks - before I install them, is this a good combination for this chassis?

Everything else on the car is stock (except for the brake fluid).
That's what I ran, except without new rotors and not pre bedded. They worked well, although the rears did not get very hot. I suspect an EBD bias issue there and I'm not sure if running a more, or less, agressive rear pad would be better. Not enough experience yet, but with those pads and ATE Super Blue fluid (or better) I ran into zero brake problems.

Cornerman 08-29-2012 12:30 PM

Thanks dave, good info. Mid Ohio looks like a fun track - I've wanted to run there for years.

I have seen several people post that the rear brakes run cool - maybe the best setup is to use the lightweight unvented JDM rotors...

Rampage 08-29-2012 12:39 PM

WTF? MIniVan?

r15mohd 08-29-2012 12:50 PM

take out everything but the yuengling and cooler...those are the only essentials needed! :D

Opie 08-29-2012 10:28 PM

Geez...buy the beer once you arrive! ;) And for that matter...install the springs before you go! LOL

Hamza7 08-30-2012 12:08 AM

Damn, that thing is packed. Good work making the most of what you have and need.

Dave-ROR 08-30-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opie (Post 411086)
Geez...buy the beer once you arrive! ;) And for that matter...install the springs before you go! LOL

Beer was given to me there and the springs were delivered there too ;)

Hanzo 08-30-2012 09:28 AM

You know what you are missing? Better beer.

Dave-ROR 08-30-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzo (Post 411845)
You know what you are missing? Better beer.

You might get banned if you keep that up. ;)

Turbowned 08-30-2012 09:17 PM

Lol that's about the amount of crap I bring to an auto-x! Except in place of beer I bring an EZ-up and folding chairs so we can all chill in the shade when in between runs and course work. Yay for the MR2 having two trunks, but I bet the BRZ is even better!

I've never had Yuengling, I've heard it's only really "just OK" but it's a regional thing. Kind of like when I go to PA I get Iron City; it's not "good" by any means but you can only get it in the PA/OH area. New England is full of amazing breweries so I can count myself lucky for that :)

OK, back on topic! *Goes off to pour a glass of Opa Opa Raspberry Wheat*

RedLeader 08-30-2012 10:25 PM

Silly question, coming form a guy who's never done a track day in a car before (plenty on a motorcycle): What do you keep looking in your rear view mirror for?

I don't know the etiquette for cars, but on bikes we always had to remove our mirrors or tape them up and point them down so we wouldn't use them (and so they wouldn't shatter and spread glass all over) because it was the responsibility for the faster rider to pass the slower rider safely. Slower guys weren't supposed to get out of the way, just ride their ride and let the fast guys go around them; there were still classes, but even in a 600cc pro class some guys are still way faster than others.

Is this different in cars? Or was there someone back there?

Dave-ROR 08-31-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kestrel (Post 413343)
Silly question, coming form a guy who's never done a track day in a car before (plenty on a motorcycle): What do you keep looking in your rear view mirror for?

I don't know the etiquette for cars, but on bikes we always had to remove our mirrors or tape them up and point them down so we wouldn't use them (and so they wouldn't shatter and spread glass all over) because it was the responsibility for the faster rider to pass the slower rider safely. Slower guys weren't supposed to get out of the way, just ride their ride and let the fast guys go around them; there were still classes, but even in a 600cc pro class some guys are still way faster than others.

Is this different in cars? Or was there someone back there?

For driving schools, passing requires point bys in most run groups, so you do need to keep an eye behind you. No one was back there during that video though. I also had a passenger and was talking to them throughout the session.

I'm used to looking to make sure someone isn't coming up, habit from wheel to wheel racing, better to know someone is there then to turn into them and force them to pit you.


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