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jm1681 08-27-2012 01:21 PM

Stock resonator removal?
 
So, the more I drive my car, the more I don't mind the sound of the stock exhaust. I was thinking of perhaps just getting JDM tips, and pulling the resonator, for a bit more volume, but I'm a bit terrified of it sounding... well, crap.

Normally, those resonators are meant to eliminate high-frequencies, right? I don't mind that, but if it's eliminating a mosquito attack from my exhaust, I'd rather leave it.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone has done it. I know there was a thread or two ABOUT doing it, but I don't know if anyone ever actually went through with it.

jm1681 08-28-2012 11:06 AM

Damn, no one :(

I'm going to hit the local shop this weekend and see what they'll charge to pull it (And possibly put it back >.<).

Yruyur 08-28-2012 11:13 AM

I'm curious too, post your results

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jm1681 08-28-2012 11:27 AM

Will do. I wish I had more exhaust shops by me :(

neutron256 08-28-2012 11:30 AM

The stock exhaust is a single piece from the cat to the the muffler, with the resonator built into it. So it's not really possible to remove just the resonator. You would have to do an Catback, or axelback exhaust if you really want to change the sound. Tips probably aren't going to do anyone other then visual appearance.

I'm not much into louder exhaust but I must say the Perrin catback w/resonator sounds great compared tot the stock exhaust.

jm1681 08-28-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 407380)
The stock exhaust is a single piece from the cat to the the muffler, with the resonator built into it. So it's not really possible to remove just the resonator...

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milenko11 08-28-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 407380)
The stock exhaust is a single piece from the cat to the the muffler, with the resonator built into it. So it's not really possible to remove just the resonator. You would have to do an Catback, or axelback exhaust if you really want to change the sound. Tips probably aren't going to do anyone other then visual appearance.

I'm not much into louder exhaust but I must say the Perrin catback w/resonator sounds great compared tot the stock exhaust.

I love my resonated Perrin catback. I can't wait to get their front pipe.

Also, the stock exhaust has a sound to it? :D

ABQautoxer 08-28-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 407380)
The stock exhaust is a single piece from the cat to the the muffler, with the resonator built into it. So it's not really possible to remove just the resonator. You would have to do an Catback, or axelback exhaust if you really want to change the sound. Tips probably aren't going to do anyone other then visual appearance.

Any exhaust shop can cut just before the resonator, install a flange make a new flanged pipe to the stock axleback. For a bit more they can go back and flange the resonator pipe you removed so you can swap between them yourself. On other cars it's not uncommon to cut the pipes to install exhaust pieces as not everything is "bolt-in."

jm1681 08-28-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milenko11 (Post 407410)
Also, the stock exhaust has a sound to it? :D

To me, I think it does, and personally, I kinda like it, I just wish it were a little louder ;)

ABQautoxer 08-28-2012 12:00 PM

Are you sure you just aren't hearing the intake? I literally can't hear my stock exhaust. I got to hear an FRS with a muffler delete in person and was shocked just how quiet it was. I liked it so much I ordered one and will have it when I get back from SCCA nationals in a 1.5 weeks. I would recommend doing a Nameless axle back with small mufflers. Very easy to change yourself (2 bolts and 4 hangers) and you can go back and forth at will and its not too loud from what everyone says yet you will finally hear your exhaust. If you want it louder, you can opt for more of their pieces.

jm1681 08-28-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407454)
Are you sure you just aren't hearing the intake?

I don't think I am. I suppose it's possible, but with the light throttle loads I've been using during break-in, I figured any noise was coming from the back :(

That, and well, I gave it a few revs for a friend the other day, and I heard it clear as day :)

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407454)
I would recommend doing a Nameless axle back with small mufflers...

I've been weighing that too. At the moment, it's a big chunk of change for me, and that's what is primarily keeping me away from it for now. I figure pulling the resonator will give me a little more volume, without a big investment.

Plus, I wouldn't mind it not being loud enough to get the attention of the cops in my town, when I'm just rolling by :)

ABQautoxer 08-28-2012 12:10 PM

Just so you know, you will spend a couple hundred or more with the resonator delete unless you find a rare person who will do it cheaper. The muffler delete is $125 shipped and very quiet when you drive by a cop. The fear of a resonator delete is you won't gain much volume but you may pick up some drone which sucks. Maybe you can find someone (people?) relatively close to you with different exhaust(s) so you can hear them. I'd suggest just removing the muffler but we've now seen a couple melted rear bumpers from this so it's not a good idea but at least you would see how quiet it is versus what you would expect.

jm1681 08-28-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407474)
Just so you know, you will spend a couple hundred or more with the resonator delete unless you find a rare person who will do it cheaper...

The place I typically go to charges about $100 for this sort of thing, all said and done :)

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407474)
...The fear of a resonator delete is you won't gain much volume but you may pick up some drone which sucks...

That would suck :( The place is usually pretty good about eating some of the cost should you decide right then and there put it back the way it was ;) The only problem then is a bunch of welds in your exhaust XD

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407474)
Maybe you can find someone (people?) relatively close to you with different exhaust(s) so you can hear them. I'd suggest just removing the muffler but we've now seen a couple melted rear bumpers from this so it's not a good idea but at least you would see how quiet it is versus what you would expect.

I was initially thinking about just doing the Nameless Track Pipe, but I believe that was melting bumpers too :(

I think the axle-back is probably the smartest move, the price of entry is what's killing me. I could always try and have the shop BUILD me an axle-back using a lot of the stock hardware, but it's still going to be more than I want to spend at the moment :(

Hix 08-28-2012 12:23 PM

remove the Helmholtz resonator up front first and maybe the stock secondary cat before dropping the resonator. Resonators help lower the exhaust tone making it a deep sound rather than raspy.

ABQautoxer 08-28-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 407491)
I was initially thinking about just doing the Nameless Track Pipe, but I believe that was melting bumpers too :(

I have not seen anyone say a Nameless Performance muffler delete hurt their bumper. Link?

jm1681 08-28-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hix (Post 407494)
remove the Helmholtz resonator up front first...

I actually REALLY wanted to remove that thing as soon as I saw it. I just figured it's going to be impossibly tight in there, to remove it without pulling the piping :(

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407496)
I have not seen anyone say a Nameless Performance muffler delete hurt their bumper. Link?

I don't remember off hand, and I may very easily be mistaken. All the threads sort of blend together after a while, you know?

Hix 08-28-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 407521)
I actually REALLY wanted to remove that thing as soon as I saw it. I just figured it's going to be impossibly tight in there, to remove it without pulling the piping :(

5 bolts.. super simple to get to. The exhaust is really easy to remove (minus the cross pipe). You can take just that tiny little section out and remove it

EDIT: The stock secondary cat and helmholtz chamber are on the same very small section.

Sportsguy83 08-28-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 407491)

I think the axle-back is probably the smartest move, the price of entry is what's killing me. I could always try and have the shop BUILD me an axle-back using a lot of the stock hardware, but it's still going to be more than I want to spend at the moment :(

There will be a groupbuy soon for the new Quieter Nameless axleback exhaust. It will happen anytime now, as soon as @Jason@Nameless gathers all data/videos he has and is able to post it.

jm1681 08-28-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 407769)
There will be a groupbuy soon for the new Quieter Nameless axleback exhaust. It will happen anytime now, as soon as @Jason@Nameless gathers all data/videos he has and is able to post it.

It'd help for sure, but I'm really strapped at the moment :(

"Well why bother even looking?"

I'm trying to make a game plan, and on top of that, I'm strapped, but not to the point that I couldn't make this resonator delete happen ;)

I'll likely think about this, then think about it some more, and then some more, and finally end up doing something that I didn't think about at all, and just went with on a whim >.<

Jason@Nameless 08-30-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 407496)
I have not seen anyone say a Nameless Performance muffler delete hurt their bumper. Link?

Nah, we haven't heard or experienced this at all, there is a ton of clearance to the bumper for the track pipe. I think someone may have hit their leg on it getting things out of the trunk after a spirited drive, however. Perhaps that was what the previous poster had read.

Jason

Sportsguy83 08-30-2012 05:41 PM

There was a thread earlier when someone literally melted their bumper by literally deleting their muffler. Probably that's what he was referring too, but that had nothing to do with Nameless track pipe.

Miniata 08-30-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless (Post 412900)
Nah, we haven't heard or experienced this at all, there is a ton of clearance to the bumper for the track pipe. I think someone may have hit their leg on it getting things out of the trunk after a spirited drive, however. Perhaps that was what the previous poster had read.

Jason

No problems with my Nameless track pipe/muffler delete. Drove the car an hour to an autocross last Sunday, took 10-12 autocross laps, drove it an hour home, no issues with melting or overheating the bumper at all. I love it. I was initially afraid it would be too loud and I'd have to swap back and forth with the stock muffler between autocross events, but I'll just leave it on all summer. Isn't that loud at all, inside or outside the car.

gmookher 08-30-2012 06:00 PM

sorry, I forget-what were the nameless dyno gains track pipe vs their version1 exhaust vs their version2 offset?

Sportsguy83 08-30-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 412947)
sorry, I forget-what were the nameless dyno gains track pipe vs their version1 exhaust vs their version2 offset?

I dunno about the track pipie, but version 1 and 2 make the same HP vs. stock, about 6 HP.

Hix 08-30-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 412914)
There was a thread earlier when someone literally melted their bumper by literally deleting their muffler. Probably that's what he was referring too, but that had nothing to do with Nameless track pipe.

I think that was the DG spec car and they had a full single pipe exhaust.

jm1681 08-30-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless (Post 412900)
Nah, we haven't heard or experienced this at all, there is a ton of clearance to the bumper for the track pipe. I think someone may have hit their leg on it getting things out of the trunk after a spirited drive, however. Perhaps that was what the previous poster had read.

Jason

Totally my bad, I apologize :(

I thought I'd seen something about heat and melting issues, but I may have either misread it, or simply friggin' dreamt it up >.<

Again, my apologies.

Hix 08-30-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 413051)
Totally my bad, I apologize :(

I thought I'd seen something about heat and melting issues, but I may have either misread it, or simply friggin' dreamt it up >.<

Again, my apologies.

You didn't but it wasn't Nameless exhaust.

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jm1681 08-30-2012 07:34 PM

Ah!!! Yeah, that was it XD

Again, sorry for the confusion >.<

Sportsguy83 08-30-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 413123)
Ah!!! Yeah, that was it XD

Again, sorry for the confusion >.<

Dont worry, it happens :thumbsup:

Jason@Nameless 08-31-2012 01:30 PM

Yeah I ran ours for like 700 miles and loved it. The car has a great sound when you turn the volume up. Even with the header and the overpipe we got a ton of comments from the locals around here about how great it sounded. One of the gals who works at the deli here in town literally came up to me the day after I put it on and asked "Is that the new FR-S? It sounds AWESOME!" Yes, new FR-S. No, not stock exhaust. I was pretty surprised at her reaction, it's not quiet out the back with the full exhaust and straight pipe. It does sound great, however. Sounds especially good when it's tearing around the twisty roads in the Columbia River Gorge chasing our Genesis 3.8R with full dual helmholtz muffler delete. The two cars are almost exactly an octave apart in exhaust tone and regularly hit a harmonic point during our last drive out to a meet. Very fun.

Jason

xwd 08-31-2012 01:39 PM

Those pictures are from someone who just ran the car on a track after just taking the muffler off...

Another guy was running a muffler delete he made himself and melted his bumper a little, but it could have been attributed to material or length or something.

I ave had zero issues with the nameless delete.

jm1681 08-31-2012 02:01 PM

Lately I'm thinking about the dual-tip nameless delete, with a magnaflow muffler to replace the resonator >.<

So many options, so much indecision :(

ReaperBRZ 06-05-2016 12:10 PM

Done this... Have my muffler deleted and resonator.

86driftcar 10-11-2019 06:58 PM

Resonator delete sounds horrible in this car. It makes it sound as raspy as a fart can. Take your time and spend money well spend on a proper exhaust.


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