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GrandSport 03-27-2025 10:44 AM

Mid Ohio top speed?
 
Does anyone have a rough idea of top speed in a stock-ish 86? Preferably an fa24 but either way.

Ohio Enthusiast 03-27-2025 11:03 AM

My 1st gen tops at around 118 MPH, near the top of 5th gear on my '18 BRZ (manual, 4.3 diff). I can imagine 2nd gen will go faster (125 maybe?) and might require a shift to 6th.
I typically brake between the 5th and 4th cone markers. I have no power mods, do have mild suspension mods which probably help with exit speed out of the keyhole a bit. This is on endurance 200TW tires.

GrandSport 03-27-2025 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3612921)
My 1st gen tops at around 118 MPH, near the top of 5th gear on my '18 BRZ (manual, 4.3 diff). I can imagine 2nd gen will go faster (125 maybe?) and might require a shift to 6th.
I typically brake between the 5th and 4th cone markers. I have no power mods, do have mild suspension mods which probably help with exit speed out of the keyhole a bit. This is on endurance 200TW tires.

We make about 195rwhp but have a big wing and splitter so I'd imagine it will be close be just a few mph over your numbers. Man, that's a high top speed for a 2.2 mile track. We will be probably be around 120-120mph. Sheesh. I dont think I got over 115 at COTA.

Ohio Enthusiast 03-27-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3612933)
Man, that's a high top speed for a 2.2 mile track. We will be probably be around 120-120mph. Sheesh. I dont think I got over 115 at COTA.

The back straight in Mid Ohio is pretty long. A friend with a 981 Cayman GT4 peaks at close to 140 MPH.

RT-BRZ 03-27-2025 06:55 PM

My personal best with e85/JDL 421/4.3 rear diff was 121. I just did a JDL turbo update to mine so I'm going to guess that I'll get faster.

The highest I've ever heard of from anyone I know was 187 with a 2018 Porsche 911 GT2RS.

Here's my video: https://youtu.be/CVl8zpdyUts

GrandSport 03-28-2025 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RT-BRZ (Post 3612936)
My personal best with e85/JDL 421/4.3 rear diff was 121. I just did a JDL turbo update to mine so I'm going to guess that I'll get faster.

The highest I've ever heard of from anyone I know was 187 with a 2018 Porsche 911 GT2RS.

Mother of God :bow:

RT-BRZ 03-28-2025 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3612942)
Mother of God :bow:

Yeah, for sure. Even the thought of it makes me nervous an hour and a half away from the track. :lol:

GrandSport 03-28-2025 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RT-BRZ (Post 3612948)
Yeah, for sure. Even the thought of it makes me nervous an hour and a half away from the track. :lol:

yeah, sheesh, where are they braking? What's their brake marker? T3?

RT-BRZ 03-28-2025 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3612950)
yeah, sheesh, where are they braking? What's their brake marker? T3?

That's a good question. The driver is Jimmy Rauck (Rock's Trailer Sales if you live in Central Ohio) and my guess would be that he's braking deep. My daughter got to do a ride along at an autocross event with him and she said that was the fastest thing she had ever ridden in and she was hopping in between a lot of cars at autocross events for a few years.

Still, that car is insane. See it in person on any kind of track is eye opening.

GrandSport 03-28-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RT-BRZ (Post 3612953)
That's a good question. The driver is Jimmy Rauck (Rock's Trailer Sales if you live in Central Ohio) and my guess would be that he's braking deep. My daughter got to do a ride along at an autocross event with him and she said that was the fastest thing she had ever ridden in and she was hopping in between a lot of cars at autocross events for a few years.

Still, that car is insane. See it in person on any kind of track is eye opening.

downforce and tires help, but energy still increases exponentially.

M0nk3y 04-01-2025 09:21 AM

122 for me, FA20 with E85.

Wing/Splitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGiw...nel=KyleHerbst

CSG Mike 04-01-2025 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3612920)
Does anyone have a rough idea of top speed in a stock-ish 86? Preferably an fa24 but either way.

Assuming just a very mild build, and no weight reduction and good driver, 130-135, weather dependent. FA24/E85.

GrandSport 04-02-2025 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613017)
Assuming just a very mild build, and no weight reduction and good driver, 130-135, weather dependent. FA24/E85.

It's a WRL car you guys are pretty familiar with at this point :lol:

CSG Mike 04-02-2025 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3613019)
It's a WRL car you guys are pretty familiar with at this point :lol:

A large part will be dependent on how late you're willing to brake for China Beach

RT-BRZ 04-02-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613032)
A large part will be dependent on how late you're willing to brake for China Beach

That's a good point. I don't think 130+ in a stock Gen2 is attainable by anyone that wants to be able go home without a wrecked car that day. Even with the repave and the "flatter" setup, the risk is so high that I can't see how it would be worth it. There is nothing to win there.

Edited to say that if you could get through the Keyhole at a higher speed so you had an exit speed in the 70's then you might be able to hit that speed. I personally don't know how you would do that but it seems like that's the place to get more speed on the back straight.

CSG Mike 04-02-2025 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RT-BRZ (Post 3613033)
That's a good point. I don't think 130+ in a stock Gen2 is attainable by anyone that wants to be able go home without a wrecked car that day. Even with the repave and the "flatter" setup, the risk is so high that I can't see how it would be worth it. There is nothing to win there.

Edited to say that if you could get through the Keyhole at a higher speed so you had an exit speed in the 70's then you might be able to hit that speed. I personally don't know how you would do that but it seems like that's the place to get more speed on the back straight.

100% agreed. It's why a pure top speed measurement is largely useless outside of an anecdotal data point, but it's still a reference point.

In endurance racing, you're never going to be driving like that unless you just like adding extra risk and pit stops.

Also, this is with the abuse of a raised 5th gear redline, cuz 6th is just too tall.

GrandSport 04-02-2025 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613032)
A large part will be dependent on how late you're willing to brake for China Beach

Well, it's going to be raining all weekend so obviously a hair after the 100ft

GrandSport 04-04-2025 05:23 PM

Any of you guys want to sell or rent your coilovers and bring the to mid Ohio? We would absolutely pay out the ass.
We broke a shock somehow - without even dropping two tires

Ohio Enthusiast 04-04-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3613080)
Any of you guys want to sell or rent your coilovers and bring the to mid Ohio? We would absolutely pay out the ass.
We broke a shock somehow - without even dropping two tires

There's a seller in Columbus selling a coilover set - https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154863, they might still be available (I PM'd the seller already but decided not to buy, if you think that'll work for you and the seller isn't responding to PMs shoot me one, I have the seller's contact info).

CSG Mike 04-04-2025 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3613080)
Any of you guys want to sell or rent your coilovers and bring the to mid Ohio? We would absolutely pay out the ass.
We broke a shock somehow - without even dropping two tires

I think you guys got squared away, but if for some reason it's not, you have about 40 minutes from the time of this post to have a set of fresh coilovers there before Noon tomorrow from California. Ash knows how to reach me.

ZDan 04-04-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613034)
Also, this is with the abuse of a raised 5th gear redline, cuz 6th is just too tall.

I saw 130mph max speed on my AIM SoloII at Watkins Glen with a tailwind a couple of years ago, in 5th gear (I'm pretty sure?), without raised redline/rev-limiter...

Day 2 with no tailwind was 126mph.

GrandSport 04-05-2025 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613082)
I think you guys got squared away, but if for some reason it's not, you have about 40 minutes from the time of this post to have a set of fresh coilovers there before Noon tomorrow from California. Ash knows how to reach me.

You guys are the absolute best.

So we found a set on some forum and paid them $500 to get here in 2 hours and they did.


My other teammate was literally trying to buy a brz at a dealership that had coilovers while bsp was talking to you. The only reason we don’t own two Brz’s is because the dealership wouldn’t take a credit card over the phone lol.


Crazy situation. We qualified p1. All 4 drivers had practice laps that would make them qualify pole. Everything was perfect and the next session, boom. Old shocks had one race weekend on them.

We’re taking a massive penalty for these shocks (80lbs!) and they don’t have caster adjust. That’s a lot for only gaining remote reservoir in the front, but last race we gave up 25hp and still finished 2nd (and only because the trans got stuck in 5th gear for the last 2 hours). We drove so hard, two races later, we are still part of the drivers meeting warmings. Kinda funny, pretty embarrassing.
Important thing is that the Car is ready to rock.


As to the original issue, we got to about 125.

CSG Mike 04-05-2025 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport (Post 3613100)
You guys are the absolute best.

So we found a set on some forum and paid them $500 to get here in 2 hours and they did.


My other teammate was literally trying to buy a brz at a dealership that had coilovers while bsp was talking to you. The only reason we don’t own two Brz’s is because the dealership wouldn’t take a credit card over the phone lol.


Crazy situation. We qualified p1. All 4 drivers had practice laps that would make them qualify pole. Everything was perfect and the next session, boom. Old shocks had one race weekend on them.

We’re taking a massive penalty for these shocks (80lbs!) and they don’t have caster adjust. That’s a lot for only gaining remote reservoir in the front, but last race we gave up 25hp and still finished 2nd (and only because the trans got stuck in 5th gear for the last 2 hours). We drove so hard, two races later, we are still part of the drivers meeting warmings. Kinda funny, pretty embarrassing.
Important thing is that the Car is ready to rock.


As to the original issue, we got to about 125.

I bet you can hit the speeds I mentioned if you were uncorked, rather than tuned for class :)

GrandSport 04-05-2025 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3613102)
I bet you can hit the speeds I mentioned if you were uncorked, rather than tuned for class :)

Probably accurate. We are running at 194-198rwhp, depending on the dyno.


We took home p1 by 5 seconds at the end of an 8 hour race with every imaginable condition from wet to dry and back and forth.

We took an 80lb penalty for the new shocks. And of course we just had to set them at our best guess. Zero testing with them. And we lost caster with them. Can’t believe those fancy remote reservoir shocks didn’t let us add any caster



Thanks for all the support. We (literally) couldn’t have down it without you guys!

GrandSport 04-06-2025 05:48 PM

Race 1
Q1
P1

Race 2
Q1
P1

Day 2 conditions were somehow worse. Included rain, sleet and just straight up terrifying conditions. The first two hours were basically 60% caution laps. I think after 2.5hours we had 50 laps or so in. Wild.


http://https://i.imgur.com/64jXg1g.jpeg


What an awesome weekend. Thanks everyone- especially CSG/mike

RT-BRZ 04-06-2025 06:00 PM

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Race 1
Q1
P1

Race 2
Q1
P1

Day 2 conditions were somehow worse. Included rain, sleet and just straight up terrifying conditions. The first two hours were basically 60% caution laps. I think after 2.5hours we had 50 laps or so in. Wild.

What an awesome weekend. Thanks everyone- especially CSG/mike

I don't know if you saw this but it's amazing they got everything cleaned up.

GrandSport 04-06-2025 08:56 PM

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I don't know if you saw this but it's amazing they got everything cleaned up.

Haha I think my teammate took that picture.


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