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Toyota GR SPORTS EV Concept could be an electric MR2 successor / Toyota FT-Se Concept
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Looks even more Chester than the BRZ
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i like it, but its not perfect by any means. if and when a road version is approved, no doubt it will be cleaned up. case in point:
https://cdn.hum3d.com/wp-content/upl..._1000_0001.jpg https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2021...214_BEV_14.jpg |
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Yup... MR2 Successor is "real." EV as expected.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/iwg0...214_BEV_39.jpg Lexus EV Supercar is very Supra-ish https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/8ieH...214_BEV_33.jpg |
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And what is this?
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Oh, the rust yellow one is an MR2 successor, says the other thread.
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Gotta say, I dig the EV MR2 idea. Especially if that is the only way to get a new one, since the window for an ICE one, even hybrid, is closing.
But is it a real chance of production or just another SF-R style concept that will never enter production? |
That would depend if there is a market for one, which there could be, especially a cheap EV sports car.
right now EV's are expensive luxury cars or SUV's. "lesser" EV's arent even available in North America, (Europe has a bunch though...and they're all CUVs lol) when the SF-R concept was revealed i think Toyota was in the midst of its "who can we build this thing with?" since they were all about collaboration with sports cars and whether there was a business case to keep it priced below an 86 and sell in enough numbers to justify its existence. |
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If we're going to play Suzuki concept cars I give you this from 2001: Attachment 207853 |
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But if they really wanted to, they could go the LC route....that thing is 95% concept to reality. https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/lexus_100376716_h.jpg http://www.carfeed.net/wp-content/up...00-feature.jpg |
Another collaboration
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Well, maybe. Hang on a sec. That's a pic from at least 2018. The page I'm looking at is referring to MR2 speculation. It would seem to be a pic that has been used quite a bit for rumours. https://carbuzz.com/news/we-think-th...look-like-this I hope it doesn't turn into another SFR tease. *sigh* Just in case you had forgotten: Attachment 213880 |
I’ll believe it when I see it. Like the Honda S660, this very speculative vehicle would probably be sold in specific markets only, especially considering the collaboration.
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Toyota is quickly becoming the James Patterson of sports cars. Sure, the ones produced are good, but how much of it is really them any more? Honestly, I'm over it.
Time for Toyota to put up or drop out of the sports car genre as far as I'm concerned. |
1.0 L Turbo sportscar?
Daihatsu, Suzuki and Toyota? sounds like it would be: -Next gen Daihatsu Copen -Revival of Suzuki Cappuccino -Dunno what Toyota would get out of it...revived Celica as a smaller car (was never a 1.0L class car), Revived Sports 800, or some successor to the Toyota Paseo?. Edit: Noticed the article mentioned mid-engined 2 door...so revived MR2? to be fair the only outlier in this group is actually Suzuki, Toyota owns Daihatsu i think. |
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All the car manufacturers have pulled their 1.0L econobox sub-compact offerings from the North American market. The Koreans and GM i think might be the only ones left in this segment (Accent, Rio, Spark?) and even then i think they're on the way out once their current gen lifecycles are done. OH I suppose Nissan's still here (Versa) and Mitsubishi (Mirage...but that thing is trash and I think Mitsu just keeps it around to make their portfolio look a little more full) |
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From Forbes:
In the past, Toyota has teamed up with Subaru to build the GR86 and BRZ, and more recently the brands’ first-ever electric SUVs, while a BMW collaboration has given rise to the Supra and Z4. Now, according to a report in Japan’s biggest-selling magazine, Best Car, Japan’s No 1 carmaker is joining forces with small car experts Suzuki and Daihatsu to build a compact sports car. Although Toyota can still produce its own in-house sports cars, like the recently released GR Yaris and GR Corolla, the consensus is that collaboration is the way forward if you’re going to build a cost-effective sports car. So to realize the goal of creating a viable two-door, Toyota will lend its GA-B platform used on the GR Yaris while Suzuki will donate its turbocharged, 3-cylinder 1.0-liter gasoline engine to the process. However, as Suzuki fitted its turbo powerplant to drive the front wheels of its Swift Turbo model, the engine will have to be switched to a rear-drive, mid-engine configuration for the new 3-company project to deliver the best handling possible. And while the Swift Turbo generates around 110-hp, the new coupe is expected to be boosted to around 150-hp giving the lightweight sports car an excellent power-to-weight ratio. Suzuki’s 6-speed torque converter automatic is expected to do the honors in the transmission department. As seen in the attached image, the joint project will have an overall mid-engined layout with short overhangs, sleek lines and a side air intake to feed air into the engine bay. As with all co-developed cars such as the GR86 and BRZ, which employ the same platform, suspension and powertrain, the only room for differentiation falls to the aesthetics department, and of course some minor suspension enhancements. While we can expect each carmaker to adopt the same basic exterior and interior designs, we can look forward to seeing them tweak their styling to add uniqueness and flair. Expect these three coupes to land in showrooms in 2025, with the as yet unnamed sports cars’ price hovering in the mid $20,000s. |
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That was supposed to be the joint venture with Lotus car! https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly...h=579658873590 Oh and Porsche back in 2019 https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar186367.html Oh and Porsche AND Lotus in 2021 https://carbuzz.com/news/toyota-mr2-...p-from-porsche "Image courtesy of Toyota" my ass. There are an awful lot of "wills" in the article without a single source listed. File it as complete and total bullshit that only the dumbest of the dumb fall for. |
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So. It's going to be a DSM collabo ...
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https://www.motor1.com/news/297961/t...s-car-concept/ |
Forbes has become basically another blog site for pseudo-journalists, no better than Yahoo or MSN. But the rumors about an M-R Toyota have been flying around for a while.
Recall the days before 2022 BRZ/86 was released - rumors ranged from "no changes" to "300hp turbo brah!". Take everything with a pound of salt. |
The bullshit being tossed around here by supposed "insiders" regarding the current generation of 86 a few yrs ago make these click bait articles look like the farmers almanac.
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And after several rumor blogs and the telephone effect, it somehow became "Toyota is collabing with porsche to create an MR2!" I think the lotus one was the same way, except it was just theorycraft mathematics that turned it into a rumor. -Lotus makes small midengined sports car (Elise) + Toyota has midengine sports car before (MR2) + Lotus borrows Toyota powertrain (2zz and 2GR, i think a 1ZZ got in there for a period when the 2ZZ had to go due to emissions) + 3rd gen MRS with 2zz swap turns it into a poor mans elise = TOYOTA AND LOTUS WILL PAIR UP TO MAKE A NEXT GEN MR2/SPORTS CAR!!! |
If you rearrange the letters of LOTUS, ELISE, MID-ENGINE, TOYOTA... and remove a few... you get ILLUMINATI. Alternatively you can also spell ILOOMINATY, whichever you choose.
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Suzuki need to donate the sweet K14C engine. Some tuner in UK managed to extract close to 300hp out of it with stock internal.
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If Toyota were really going to make a dedicated new MR2, I think it’s more likely it would be an EV like the styling concept they showed a while ago. https://www.thedrive.com/content-b/m...=70&width=3840 https://www.thedrive.com/news/43507/...like-a-new-mr2 But even that is unlikely to ever enter production - it played its role as a styling concept and will soon be forgotten. A shame, because a tiny RWD EV sports coupe that is affordable would be one way to entice me out of my ICE RWD and into an EV instead. |
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Best Car from Japan has, more often than not, turned out to be very realistic. Renderings can be old concept designs, but I give it more credibility than most, if not all, US auto webpages.
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The few that actually are real are often just a shell that didn't cost much to make anyway. Anything that actually has a chassis and drivetrain will, more often than not, make it to production in some form so the investment is worth it. |
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Although they have been showing the proposed lineup as both Toyota AND Lexus models. There is a strong probability that all the cars shown will indeed hit production but the EV sportscar could be a Lexus as easily as a Toyota. That would make it a whole different kettle of fish. https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/P3...-ev-lineup.jpg |
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There is a rumor that Lexus is working on 2 variants of the LFA successor, that BEV supercar and some other one utilizing a new hybrid TT V8 (could be the continued development of the TT V8 that Lexus WAS working on before the whole pandemic and gas prices went to shit) Of course they both COULD use the same bodyshell but one being EV and one being ICE it might be different Or Toyota ISNT getting some super expensive sportscar, as they add to their GR lineup (So the GR lineup, + possible MR2 revival and the other rumor i heard about was them collabing with Mazda to revive their RX7 and Toyota possibly reviving Celica nameplate for their version) Lot of crazy sportscar rumors (with the only ones being remotely true are the Lexus BEV supercar and some kind of EV MR2 being considered) coming out of Toyota...of all companies lol. |
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