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Sur 08-19-2023 04:16 AM

Whining noise on cold start
 
Hey all,

2013 Frs 78k miles.
Replaced belt a few months ago after a slight squeak I was having. Seemed to solve that issue.
But now on cold starts I have another weird sound. Seems to go away after a few minutes. Basically after the high rev warmup and then the noise goes away. Doesn’t matter if the clutch peddle is pressed or not.
No issues changing gears.
No slipping
My fork does squeak a bit but has for over a year.
I have a new clutch ready to go in but just have not installed yet.
The car runs and drive great.
If anyone has any suggestion on what this noise could be I’d be happy to listen.
I am not sure if this could be the TOB and a input shaft. I’ve heard they can make these sounds at times but I am not very knowledgeable on clutch and transmission issues.
Also thinking it could be a pulley. But I can’t pinpoint where the sound is coming from when I pop the hood.

Thanks. Please be gentle ��

blsfrs 08-19-2023 09:27 AM

Thank you editing. On this forum, we are sticklers for proper grammar.


Please post a video with the sound included along with your weight, height, and eye color.


With this information we can make wild guesses as to what the sound may or may not be.

Sur 08-19-2023 03:31 PM

Got jokes hah. I’ll be out in my garage later. I’ll
Make a video for ya. Thanks for getting back to me in a timely manner.

Ultramaroon 08-19-2023 03:40 PM

If it really gets to bugging you, I could swing by sometime.

Sur 08-19-2023 03:44 PM

Dude that would be awesome. I didn’t want to bug you. But I thought about it

Ultramaroon 08-20-2023 02:19 AM

If anyone's interested, looks like we'll be dropping a transmission.

blsfrs 08-20-2023 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3590346)
If anyone's interested, looks like we'll be dropping a transmission.

TOB?

soundman98 08-20-2023 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3590346)
If anyone's interested, looks like we'll be dropping a transmission.

i'd rather change a belt, thanks.

WNDSRFR 08-20-2023 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3590357)
TOB?

2013 Frs 78k miles.

Most likely.

Ultramaroon 08-20-2023 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3590357)
TOB?

Yup. Will be a fun weekend. Always rewarding to get it back to that slick sweet feel.

Clipdat 08-20-2023 04:15 PM

dis gunna be gud

blsfrs 08-20-2023 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3590386)
Yup. Will be a fun weekend. Always rewarding to get it back to that slick sweet feel.

Not judging but, that sounds like you live in your mom's basement and just got a new jar of vasoline.

Ultramaroon 08-20-2023 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3590424)
Not judging but, that sounds like you live in your mom's basement and just got a new jar of vasoline.

Your mom loved using it.

Sur 08-25-2023 06:41 PM

So I dropped by @ultramoroons place today, he generously offered to help me install my new clutch.

As we were assessing the car, he brilliantly informed me that the TOB was not the issue. The cold start squeak seemed to be coming from the drive belt. Although it is brand new and sold as a direct fit, apparently it is too long and a bit to soft.

The squeak was easily identified with his help since it only happens when using the throttle.

He schooled me on how to identify this and also fixed my squeaky clutch fork. This man is a great teacher and a good friend. I appreciate the help. A lunch on me is not enough payment but hopefully is a good start ��

I had hoped it wasn’t the clutch even though I was excited to get my new one in. But since it doesn’t seem to have any sign of issues after a “professional” took a look, it can sit in my garage a bit longer.

Ultramaroon 08-25-2023 06:55 PM

Bah! Too kind! It was a fun morning. You take great care of your machine. I'm happy that we didn't have to drop the trans but that day will eventually come.

We gots dis :cheers:

Clipdat 08-26-2023 02:11 AM

Glad it was a quick fix. So you just got a new belt from a local parts store?

Ultramaroon 08-26-2023 02:54 AM

It's a bit weird. The current accessory belt is nearly new but in addition to the cold start squeak, the tensioner swings like mad. I've never seen that IRL. People write here about it but I've never seen a video clip capture it. The new belt is flimsier than my original. More rubbery. We'll see.

blsfrs 08-26-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3591040)
It's a bit weird. The current accessory belt is nearly new but in addition to the cold start squeak, the tensioner swings like mad. I've never seen that IRL. People write here about it but I've never seen a video clip capture it. The new belt is flimsier than my original. More rubbery. We'll see.

When you "cocked" the tensioner to get the belt on, how much force did it take? As you know, it takes almost 1 full unit of ugga-dugga to move the tensioner far enough to get the belt on. Less than 1 unit may mean a failing tensioner. US vs CAN ugga dugga units may require different calibration.

Ultramaroon 08-26-2023 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3591047)
When you "cocked" the tensioner to get the belt on, how much force did it take? As you know, it takes almost 1 full unit of ugga-dugga to move the tensioner far enough to get the belt on. Less than 1 unit may mean a failing tensioner. US vs CAN ugga dugga units may require different calibration.

I looked at that carefully. We compared ugga duggas with my tensioner. Equal and smoothly operating. Did not replace the belt. Just diagnosis. @Sur will get a belt from the dealer and test.


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