Subaru Develops EyeSight for Manual Transmission Vehicles
 

And first car to get it is 2nd gen BRZ in Japan.

I think this is a big deal. It is one fewer thing numbering the days of fun MT cars.

I always figured Subaru's reluctance to pair MT and eyesight was a part of their plan to eventually stop making any manual vehicles. I guess in the end it was just their standard over-conservatism.

https://www.subaru.co.jp/news-en/202...=newsletter-en

I never understood why cars would need any of this? Perhaps if they stopped planting giant "infotainment" tablets on the dash, drivers would actually be looking at the road and driving the damn car. As for myself, my little display is turned off and my eyes are on the road. Just grateful the BRZ has manual controls for everything, no need to hunt on a touch screen.

it's part of the larger global initiative for '0 vehicular deaths'. but they refuse to acknowledge the technology/death-distraction venn diagram they've created.

In my opinion, cars such as the twins should be simplistic with the minimum of bells and whistles or distractive infotainment systems as to allow the driver to be focused on what really matters, the driving experience. Personally, I hate adaptive cruise control, my old lady's RAV4 has it, it's annoying to have the car slow itself down when I'm getting ready to pass slower drivers. It's just more add-on crap available to replace my right foot. I don't need that shit.

Within the first week of ownership, I had pulled the factory touchscreen head unit from my car and began the search for the perfect audio system to compliment the perfect driving experience.

With eyesight you can put the car into standard cruise as well to disable this.

Previously I took this position as well. I'd spent time in dealer loaners and rental cars with the stuff and never messed with it, seemed an annoyance if anything. Especially with respect to sports cars, "keep em pure!"

Recently my DD has become a car with these features. Auto hi-beam, pre-collision braking, lane keep assist I have all come to appreciate. It hasn't saved me or anything, but damn I know it could. Once you're accustomed to it it can only help. Having this technology in no way changes the way I drive, with exception of auto hi-beam freeing up some mental capacity not having to worry about hi-beaming people.

It was just announced that the GR86 manual will come with all this stuff for 2024, but mind-bogglingly the auto hi-beams aren't available on the manual per the press release!!!

Maybe, just maybe....Subaru will bring back other MT models....
2024 Impreza RS in MT would be nice, Crosstrek, Forester....

Have this on a crosstrek. Nothing more terrifying than having the car jump on the brakes on the highway because it feels you are too close to the car in front when you are maneuvering. Absolutely terrifying to have the wheel yanked out of your hands when you are adjusting to the edge of a lane for visibility and to pass. Had to turn it off before it caused an accident.

Perhaps, but Big Brother is still looking over your shoulder either way. No thank you.

Eye sight is a great safety feature but people abuse the adaptive cruise control and impede traffic on the highway due to complacency and not moving over. It’s great for when your in bumper to bumper traffic though. All technology is making us dumber and taking the human experience out of the human.

Long row of zombie drivers... clogging the left lane, barely going faster than the big semis... you have to switch to the right lane and pass the whole line of them. Yep, the joys of adaptive cruise control.

People driving with high beams on nicely light roads... just stay with the low beam for god's sake!

The science of human factors tells us that our mind will not attend a task we are NOT performing... attention will wonder and we will not maintain situational awareness. I don't want to be a passenger in a car I am driving... then again, I am a dinosaur... hope future generations will discover my tibia in some tar pit and wonder.


(PS: I recently test-drove a German car with exquisite rev-matching... did it better on downshifts than Ayrton Senna could. No fun at all... might as well be automatic.)

Here in A murica… if they switched the passing lane to the far right lane instead of the left then traffic would make allot more sense at a glance. Shows you the level of entitlement and abuse of not moving right some of it is strictly poor awareness of surroundings.

and that's why i bought a 2014.

I am somewhat in middle on this. I like few safety features, mainly blind spot monitor. I don't mind complexity in parts that are easy to swap like headlights. Not a fan of complicated systems in eyesight as your point.

If you're having trouble to keep your lane, you have no business behind the wheel.

I also like the blind spot monitor. Our '18 Mazda 3 has one as well.

When I was still going in to the office, it's before sunrise, it's raining. Look over my shoulder no one there. I hit the turn signal, it lights up and beeps. Someone was blazing through traffic weaving in and out of cars at roughly 25 mph faster than everyone else. Came out of nowhere.

I have a similar scenario almost every time I go to the grocery store. People in that parking lot blow through there faster than any other place I tend to frequent. I've come close to being hit while in the middle of the crosswalk on multiple occasions.

In a region where the average family car is a F250 or Suburban, having the radar on the back of the car peek out around the ginormous vehicles before you have a good sight line is a lifesaver.

The other nannies are lost to me, I don't want them, don't need them, and most don't work all that well due to false positives. However, I do like adaptive cruise control on long distance trips outside an urban area. Like the other systems very few work very well. The one in our Acura MDX is horrible because it is either on the gas or on the brakes. I drove one in a Passat about four years ago that was quite good, because it would actually coast or reduce the throttle based on the closure rate to the vehicle in front of you and not immediately brake, which made passing easier. It also didn't trigger on vehicles in other lanes or the center barrier while passing.

it's nice to have passive safety features like blind spot lights and a backup cam. stuff that compensates for the dogshit visibility out of the side and rear windows but doesn't actually drive the car for you

but active safety feels like its so dangerous in terms of making people complacent with the car thinking for you. or in the case of this car, potentially stalling it upon misreading a hazard

So hold on goldarn cottonpickin minute. Are you telling me that when I cross the Blue Ridge going to work everyday, some of the knuckleheads in the left lane that are going the same speed as the rig in the right lane might be because of their fancy smancy cruise control?????

Well, I am not sure who is dumber, the one who lingers next to a rig of their own accord or the one who lets their car do it. Either way, hanging out in a truck's blindspot and holding up traffic is just dumb.

Go fast, take chances.

No. It's because they aren't paying any attention and unconsciously pacing whatever is beside them.

I love dynamic cruise control on my Civic Type R. It's nice on long highway trips.

I am with you on the distraction of the Infotainment screens. I wonder how many deaths and injuries have resulted from their distraction.


I do believe the Eye sight on Manual cars will be a good thing. Even though I do embrace the manual controls, Eyesight can make long drives much less tiring. Eyesight can save you when you have that moment of inattention that everyone will experience at one time of another.

If you need this crap on your car then you might as well take the bus.

Yep. It's the herd mentality. You see it all the time when people aren't passing large trucks. You get these rolling mucus bols on the highway where everyone just starts pacing each other. They are actually looking at their phones and their brain pics up other cars in their peripheral vision which makes them unconsciously just fall in right next to them.