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brichard0625 08-22-2012 05:04 PM

Visconti Tuned 0-60
 
Today i did some runs and found the best ways to launch my car and what tire pressure to launch with. I thought i wud post a video of the launch with data running.. For some reason data would not show when uploaded to youtube but i added it to the end of the video. Before this best 0.60 was 6.8 and 1/8 9.8..torque app calulations are a little off but if u pause the video i started in the middle of 30sec mark and hit 60 at about 36 which is still around 5.6-5.9 range..Sit back and enjoy:popcorn:
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fenton 08-22-2012 05:21 PM

Looks good. Looks like you could benefit with 500 more rpm on launch or so.

brichard0625 08-22-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fenton (Post 396154)
Looks good. Looks like you could benefit with 500 more rpm on launch or so.

thought so too but with the type of pavement i was on, if i launched a little harder i would keep getting like 5.9-6.0...when i launched at 4200rpm i wud get out of the tire spin quick, but to still break into the 5 sec range from what i was getting before is amazing.. imagine with e85...i was also holding the camera which was kinda of tricky

brillo 08-22-2012 05:24 PM

With the flash you cut nearly a second off your 0-60 time?

brichard0625 08-22-2012 05:27 PM

pretty much...but then again i could have gotten better than 6.8 because that was my first run with the first tune i got. then i got the updated tune and put the hks filter reduced the air in my tires from 40 to 34 and this is the result i got.

Opposed 08-22-2012 05:48 PM

Looks healthy! Waiting on John's email for my flash, can't wait. 9.3's is about a mid 14 quarter, give or take the apps accuracy.

brillo 08-22-2012 05:54 PM

I'm not in any way complaining, its just that most of the magazines with accurate instruments could at best get a ~6.5 sec 0-60 with a driveline lashing launch and I'm surprised a tune could improve things by ~.5 sec. 40psi seems kinda high, is that the stock recommendation?

SkAsphalt 08-22-2012 06:02 PM

the flash does more than add ~10hp. it also smooths out the power delivery, raises redline (so you can hit 60 in 2nd) and improves throttle/engine response. Powerful things to cut down 0-60 time

Quote:

Originally Posted by brillo (Post 396220)
I'm not in any way complaining, its just that most of the magazines with accurate instruments could at best get a ~6.5 sec 0-60 with a driveline lashing launch and I'm surprised a tune could improve things by ~.5 sec. 40psi seems kinda high, is that the stock recommendation?


brichard0625 08-22-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brillo (Post 396220)
I'm not in any way complaining, its just that most of the magazines with accurate instruments could at best get a ~6.5 sec 0-60 with a driveline lashing launch and I'm surprised a tune could improve things by ~.5 sec. 40psi seems kinda high, is that the stock recommendation?


for some reason thats how it came from the factory. I thought it was high too...i reduced it to about 33-34 and it felt perfect, actually doesnt drive as bumpy any more.

Synack 08-22-2012 06:55 PM

Holy crap! 40psi!!

Wow Toyota mega failed. They also give us stock -1.5 camber in the rear and ZERO up front. What the hell were they thinking?

Sent from my Nexus 7

KaliKev 08-22-2012 07:01 PM

Looks great! Now I wonder what the E85 tune is at?

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:04 PM

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I think this tune is bringing us closer to this territory : D...with E85 i think we passed it :D

BAE 08-22-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 396232)
the flash does more than add ~10hp. it also smooths out the power delivery, raises redline (so you can hit 60 in 2nd) and improves throttle/engine response. Powerful things to cut down 0-60 time

A gear change less is easily 0.5 sec. I would like to see the rev. limiter at 7900 rpm. Than you can hit 100 km/t ~ 62 mph in 2nd

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BAE (Post 396360)
A gear change less is easily 0.5 sec. I would like to see the rev. limiter at 7900 rpm. Than you can hit 100 km/t ~ 62 mph in 2nd

The rev limiter is at 7800 it allows for 2nd to hit 62mph before you have to change...it def helps with the 0-60 run. if you pass the video at about the end of the 36 sec mark im still in 2nd at 61mph

Synack 08-22-2012 07:20 PM

Come on.. you guys aren't gonna run E85 with just a tune and/or boltons are you?

Sent from my Nexus 7

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 396378)
Come on.. you guys aren't gonna run E85 with just a tune and/or boltons are you?

Sent from my Nexus 7


Lol im planning on stay N/A for a little while. My benchmark is to be faster than a v6 mustang since thats what my brother is getting lol.. as long as im faster than him im fine lol...once he starts modding the turbo will be dropped lol

BAE 08-22-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 396374)
The rev limiter is at 7800 it allows for 2nd to hit 62mph before you have to change...it def helps with the 0-60 run. if you pass the video at about the end of the 36 sec mark im still in 2nd at 61mph

I saw that, but are you sure you can make 62 mph. According to my rough calculation you need another 100 rpm.

Subforever 08-22-2012 07:34 PM

Thanks for the video ! Can't stop watching it :)
Hope to receive my cable and my tune before winter storage.

Here we have 94 with 10% ethanol from petro-canada but my choice is shell 91 vpower ethanol free no chirps since day one and good power .

So im wondering if i can use shell fuel on the 93 tune safely.. anyway ill ask John later hes a busy man ! for sure !

Again thank you John and Ecutek for your hard work. The new package with the cable is sooo nice and the price... a steal. I put my engine in your hand with confidence :)

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAE (Post 396393)
I saw that, but are you sure you can make 62 mph. According to my rough calculation you need another 100 rpm.

I believe John confirmed this and i usually shift right before 7800 so i dont bounce on it but i do remember me bouncing off and it saying 62mph..when i get a chance ill try to take a safe video to confirm..either way reaching 0-60 in just one shift helps so much with times

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 396209)
Looks healthy! Waiting on John's email for my flash, can't wait. 9.3's is about a mid 14 quarter, give or take the apps accuracy.

Im really wondering what this car can do on the quarter mile time. I do have a nice strip near thats closed off and has a long stretch but the only downside is that towards the middle it inclines so my time will be a little off but hey its worth a shot. Gotta remove my spare and stuff out of the trunk and try and run.

BAE 08-22-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 396420)
I believe John confirmed this and i usually shift right before 7800 so i dont bounce on it but i do remember me bouncing off and it saying 62mph..when i get a chance ill try to take a safe video to confirm..either way reaching 0-60 in just one shift helps so much with times

You can just pull it up to the rev limiter in 2nd and see what you have on the speedo. I trust your observation without video :-)deviation

You have the speedo deviation in addition. I haven't checked that in this car yet. I will bring my GPS in the car.

brichard0625 08-22-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAE (Post 396456)
You can just pull it up to the rev limiter in 2nd and see what you have on the speedo. I trust your observation without video :-)deviation

You have the speedo deviation in addition. I haven't checked that in this car yet. I will bring my GPS in the car.


Lol...ill post a quick vid or picture while torque app is running also so we know.

Synack 08-22-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 396384)
Lol im planning on stay N/A for a little while. My benchmark is to be faster than a v6 mustang since thats what my brother is getting lol.. as long as im faster than him im fine lol...once he starts modding the turbo will be dropped lol

200whp would put you dead even with him :thumbsup:

brichard0625 08-22-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 396534)
200whp would put you dead even with him :thumbsup:

For N/A im aiming for 215hp if it can be squeezed out with the basics. Im hopping for 215-220hp and 160lbs of tq with intake, pulley, exhaust, header, e85 and better tires. Ill be content with my car hitting those numbers on a dyno. Tomorrow im going to try for a quater mile run. Im hoping for a 14.5-14.7 according to the torque app

Synack 08-22-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 396540)
For N/A im aiming for 215hp if it can be squeezed out with the basics. Im hopping for 215-220hp and 160lbs of tq with intake, pulley, exhaust, header, e85 and better tires. Ill be content with my car hitting those numbers on a dyno. Tomorrow im going to try for a quater mile run. Im hoping for a 14.5-14.7 according to the torque app

215 can be hit easily with those mods. :thumbup:

Rampage 08-22-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 396328)
Holy crap! 40psi!!

Wow Toyota mega failed. They also give us stock -1.5 camber in the rear and ZERO up front. What the hell were they thinking?

Sent from my Nexus 7

Because Drift car!

I hand timed your run at 5.93 but that is all contingent on the video playback speed being accurate. At any rate, that is a great improvement over stock with just a tune and an air filter. Looks like money well spent and from what I have read your gas mileage should improve also.

brichard0625 08-22-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 396623)
Because Drift car!

I hand timed your run at 5.93 but that is all contingent on the video playback speed being accurate. At any rate, that is a great improvement over stock with just a tune and an air filter. Looks like money well spent and from what I have read your gas mileage should improve also.

Yeah thats why i said that the torque app could be a little off with the numbers but from the video i got between 5.6-5.9 which like u said is still good and could probably be better with practice. Im so anxious that im going to try a 1.4 mile run in a few...be back later with results if im successful

carbonBLUE 08-22-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brichard0625 (Post 396634)
Yeah thats why i said that the torque app could be a little off with the numbers but from the video i got between 5.6-5.9 which like u said is still good and could probably be better with practice. Im so anxious that im going to try a 1.4 mile run in a few...be back later with results if im successful

get a 5:1 final drive, should help 0-60 times

Synack 08-22-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 396623)
Because Drift car!

I hand timed your run at 5.93 but that is all contingent on the video playback speed being accurate. At any rate, that is a great improvement over stock with just a tune and an air filter. Looks like money well spent and from what I have read your gas mileage should improve also.

Lol, well apparently they don't know anything about drift setups. A proper drift car always runs more negative camber in the front than the rear.

brillo 08-22-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 396232)
the flash does more than add ~10hp. it also smooths out the power delivery, raises redline (so you can hit 60 in 2nd) and improves throttle/engine response. Powerful things to cut down 0-60 time

Guess I wasn't aware you needed third to hit 60, I thought you could hit it in 2nd. That would certainly explain the improvement.

Visconti 08-22-2012 10:11 PM

I have vboxs coming in.

Gonna get real numbers soo

carbonBLUE 08-22-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brillo (Post 396739)
Guess I wasn't aware you needed third to hit 60, I thought you could hit it in 2nd. That would certainly explain the improvement.

high rev just makes it easier, 2nd gear goes to 59.5 which can be rounded up to 60 if you want, but a whole second is better none the less

brichard0625 08-22-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 396750)
I have vboxs coming in.

Gonna get real numbers soo


Thats what i really need...I tried 1/4 mile run today and the road isnt long enough for the run and i didnt want to try on the street...also tried to launch higher but i kept getting 6.8-6.9 and a 10.2 for the 1/8...i guess for me and the pavement im on 4200rpm launch is best. Tried again with a 4200rpm launch and got 5.7 with a 9.3 1/8mile.

SkAsphalt 08-23-2012 02:42 AM

I have asked John a few times, 91 octane will run fine on the 93 tune he said:thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subforever (Post 396411)
Thanks for the video ! Can't stop watching it :)
Hope to receive my cable and my tune before winter storage.

Here we have 94 with 10% ethanol from petro-canada but my choice is shell 91 vpower ethanol free no chirps since day one and good power .

So im wondering if i can use shell fuel on the 93 tune safely.. anyway ill ask John later hes a busy man ! for sure !

Again thank you John and Ecutek for your hard work. The new package with the cable is sooo nice and the price... a steal. I put my engine in your hand with confidence :)


Rampage 08-23-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 396704)
Lol, well apparently they don't know anything about drift setups. A proper drift car always runs more negative camber in the front than the rear.

Pump up the rear tire pressure far enough and almost any RWD will start drifting the back end around corners. Or spinning.

brillo 08-23-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 396800)
high rev just makes it easier, 2nd gear goes to 59.5 which can be rounded up to 60 if you want, but a whole second is better none the less

so is another 400rpm overkill to get to 60 mph even? Would 200 more do it?

brichard0625 08-23-2012 11:06 AM

noo i think 400 is perfect because at least you would have to shift perfect all the time and at least i have a little room for error if i go a little past and i dont bounce off the limiter. Im not greatest shifter but i've been practicing lol hence the 5.6-5.9 time lol

Illusive 08-23-2012 11:10 AM

On a track with sticky vht, you will find that you will need to lower tire pressures, and raise the launch RPM much higher. We had to launch off the limiter and feather the clutch because there was zero tire slip at the track. a 7800 launch rpm would of been able to net us 1.9 60's at the track quite easily.

We were getting 9.5 1/8's full weight stock trim (1/4 tank fuel), and 9.4 1/8's with 70 lbs of weight reduction with american sized 200+lb drivers :D

brichard0625 08-23-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illusive (Post 397734)
On a track with sticky vht, you will find that you will need to lower tire pressures, and raise the launch RPM much higher. We had to launch off the limiter and feather the clutch because there was zero tire slip at the track. a 7800 launch rpm would of been able to net us 1.9 60's at the track quite easily.

We were getting 9.5 1/8's full weight stock trim (1/4 tank fuel), and 9.4 1/8's with 70 lbs of weight reduction with american sized 200+lb drivers :D

Nice! I really want to hit the track and see what numbers i put down.. im sure with a sticky vht track and higher launch i would hit better numbers. Only thing is im not that great and im still practicing lol.

Guff 08-23-2012 11:31 AM

Que impresivo!!!!


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