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Snoopysvet 11-29-2022 12:20 PM

Hauling a bicycle in a GR86
 
I am considering a GR86, how do you haul a bicycle?

bcj 11-29-2022 01:27 PM

Back seat down, front wheel off and lift it in back wheel first, chain side up.
Stuff in the front wheel and shut the trunk. Works fine.

Rustyoid 11-29-2022 04:30 PM

the GR has a smaller truck opening than the first gen FYI

RaceAddict 11-29-2022 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopysvet (Post 3558386)
I am considering a GR86, how do you haul a bicycle?

Haven't got my GR86 yet, but I'll be ordering one of these next spring (assuming the car's here by then): https://www.seasucker.com/

fredzy 11-29-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RaceAddict (Post 3558428)
Haven't got my GR86 yet, but I'll be ordering one of these next spring (assuming the car's here by then): https://www.seasucker.com/

For someone starting from scratch, I'd recommend that unless you could get the bike in the trunk easily.

I bought a Slambert performance twin hitch for mine. It works well enough but I think for my needs I should have just gone with a sea sucker. The twin hitch is rated at 100lbs tongue weight. My bike rack is almost 50lbs alone, and the way things bounce around back there leaves me no confidence to push it. The main anchor bolts even appear to have bent a little. Definitely 1 MTB at a time only. 2 road bikes would be OK as they're so light, but I never need to carry 2 road bikes.

MoneyShiftFTW 11-29-2022 11:34 PM

I fit my Trek Domane 58cm road bike in the back with the seats down and both wheels off the bike. There is still plenty of room in the back for the wheels, a bag, pump and other things you might bring for a ride. The height of the trunk opening under the rear window is a limiting factor and it was tricky getting 42cm bars through when I put the bike in front-first, but now I put it in rear-first and it's much easier.
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soundman98 11-30-2022 12:23 AM

gotta find a machinist. or at the very least, a welder.

guy was making these for the 1st gen, should fit the 2nd gen as well. just install in the tow hook spots. strong enough to stand on.

https://i.imgur.com/8jZ2Hig.jpg

alex87f 11-30-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoopysvet (Post 3558386)
I am considering a GR86, how do you haul a bicycle?


Like someone said, front wheel off, handlebars parallel to the frame, load front first.

Main issue is that the (flat) pedals might be a tight fit between the trunk floor and the parcel shelf.

Did it a few times, no worries.

weederr33 11-30-2022 12:03 PM

My bike folds in half and I stuff it in the trunk.

NoHaveMSG 11-30-2022 12:26 PM

Cut bike in half with sawzall, braze back together when you get to your destination.

WNDSRFR 11-30-2022 12:59 PM

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I don't fit my bike "in" my gr86, but I carry it "on" my FR-S with my Bitchin Bike Rack. I made this a couple years ago to carry my e-bike and it's become one of my favorite mods. It's made out of iron pipes attached to the tow holes.
It folds up when not in use to give me extra rear end collision protection.
Works great and could probably hold a motorcycle it's so strong. The design has one major flaw. You can't open the trunk. If I only made it 8 inches shorter....

22BRyanZ 11-30-2022 01:52 PM

I also have the Slambert hitch bar. It's solid and does the job. What little bike movement I see in the rearview mirror I think is due to my hitch bike rack.

NoHaveMSG 11-30-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 22BRyanZ (Post 3558512)
I also have the Slambert hitch bar. It's solid and does the job. What little bike movement I see in the rearview mirror I think is due to my hitch bike rack.

I had a Slambert and it was 100% my bike rack moving.

Snoopysvet 11-30-2022 05:32 PM

Now the question is BRZ or GR86! lol

soundman98 11-30-2022 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopysvet (Post 3558549)
Now the question is BRZ or GR86! lol

mostly comes down to features.

gr86 vs. gr86premium, or brz premium vs. brz limited differences boil down to:
adaptive headlights
color-keyed rear spoiler
17" vs. 18" wheels
illuminated sun visor vanity mirrors
heated seats
utrasuede interior
6 speaker audio vs. 8 speaker audio
blind spot detection
primacy summer tires vs. pilot sport 4 summer tires

that's with the manual transmission. automatic transmission adds some other things like auto-high beam, Advanced Adaptive Cruise Control w/ Lane Centering, Pre-collision Braking, Lane Departure and Sway Warning, and Lane Keep Assist.

lastly, the suspension is setup slightly different to comply with each corporates 'brand flavoring'. the 86 used to be setup more playful, while the brz used to be setup to be more consistent/restrained.

other than that, it's entirely aesthetic differences.

Unlisted 12-01-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3558516)
I had a Slambert and it was 100% my bike rack moving.

I plan on getting the Slambert since I can't make the DIY ones myself. Which tray style bike rack would you guys recommend that is solid, has little movement and is not very heavy? My mountain bike is roughly 23 lbs so I don't need anything bulky/heavy duty.

NoHaveMSG 12-01-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unlisted (Post 3558630)
I plan on getting the Slambert since I can't make the DIY ones myself. Which tray style bike rack would you guys recommend that is solid, has little movement and is not very heavy? My mountain bike is roughly 23 lbs so I don't need anything bulky/heavy duty.

The Slambert is a 1 1/4 receiver. Most bike racks in 1 1/4 are going to be a bit flimsy since it is just supported in the center. A setup like @soundman98 has is going to be much sturdier. That being said my no name bike rack has been solid for 10 years and has been on numerous rigs from my car with really stiff coilovers to my lifted 4runner with 1-2 heavy downhill/all-mountain bikes on it.

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mazeroni 12-01-2022 02:39 PM

Can confirm Slambert mount and hitch works well. Takes 5 minutes to install the mount and your hitch. Also, yes, the 1-1/4 receiver allows the hitch to bounce and rock, which can be unsettling. You can find a "silencer" plate that bolts around the receiver and hitch and that works okay to help some play, but it wants to loosen itself after a few uses.

https://i.ibb.co/VNfGWF1/PXL-20220112-163741931.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg

Buy a safety strap that you wrap around the hitch and the bike to give you a bit more piece of mind.

My only complain is that for whatever reason the right bolt of the Slambert hitch backs out slowly and needs periodically re-tightened. I also would not attempt 2 bikes. My hitch is around 35 pounds, plus another 35 with the MTB. I could do another, but it would be sketchy.

soundman98 12-01-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3558633)
The Slambert is a 1 1/4 receiver. Most bike racks in 1 1/4 are going to be a bit flimsy since it is just supported in the center. A setup like @soundman98 has is going to be much sturdier. That being said my no name bike rack has been solid for 10 years and has been on numerous rigs from my car with really stiff coilovers to my lifted 4runner with 1-2 heavy downhill/all-mountain bikes on it.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c60d4d2193.jpg

first come, first served!

these are the same bars i've got, and i believe $125 is less than i paid for them

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150156

g e 12-01-2022 11:43 PM

Just take off both wheels and stuff it in with back seat down.

Not hard to figure out

soundman98 12-04-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by g e (Post 3558719)
Just take off both wheels and stuff it in with back seat down.

Not hard to figure out

my scratched up center console says otherwise.

eyeballs 12-05-2022 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unlisted (Post 3558630)
I plan on getting the Slambert since I can't make the DIY ones myself. Which tray style bike rack would you guys recommend that is solid, has little movement and is not very heavy?

I'm a fan of the 1up racks.

https://www.1up-usa.com/product/quik-rack-single/

RaceAddict 12-06-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by g e (Post 3558719)
Just take off both wheels and stuff it in with back seat down.

Not hard to figure out

I ride a lot of gravel... really don't want that much grit inside my car.

bcj 12-06-2022 12:59 PM

You can get a 6x6 ft yard waste tarp.
Fling that in then pull the perimeter rope. You've got a bagged bike.

Lelandjt 12-20-2022 01:05 AM

I'm getting a BRZ specifically because it can fit a bike or bike travel case inside. All other sports cars I'd consider, except the M2, were ruled out by this requirement. If I can't put a bike in it or drive it to the airport when flying with a bike it won't get used for anything more than grocery runs. I prefer the both wheels off and drop the post method.

Snoopysvet 01-07-2023 08:59 PM

I bought a 2023 BRZ and am going to order the Slambert hitch, looks like a great product, what do you guys think of this hitch reciever?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Allen-Spo...22QR/531411964

MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires 01-09-2023 11:55 AM

looks cheap but would probably work ok.


personally not a fan of racks that hang the bike off the top tube and much prefer a tray style one where the wheels are supported.


if you dont want to spend a lot of money on the rack (new ones are now really expensive) try looking for used options

fredzy 01-09-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires (Post 3563351)
looks cheap but would probably work ok.


personally not a fan of racks that hang the bike off the top tube and much prefer a tray style one where the wheels are supported.


if you dont want to spend a lot of money on the rack (new ones are now really expensive) try looking for used options

I was going to say the same thing - that I always recommend going a little extra $$ for a tray-type rack. BUT, to keep in mind that for the Slambert you definitely want the lightest and closest rack you can find. Closest meaning a rack that doesn't hang off the back too far. (Mine does and it bounces like a freaking diving board with the Slambert. Bent the pins carrying a single 25lb bike.) For tray type rack that puts you into stupid $$ territory - 1UP etc. So if you're not using it a ton or transporting fancy carbon bikes, the hang type might be a good all around option on Slambert.

Dzmitry 01-11-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires (Post 3563351)
looks cheap but would probably work ok.


personally not a fan of racks that hang the bike off the top tube and much prefer a tray style one where the wheels are supported.


if you dont want to spend a lot of money on the rack (new ones are now really expensive) try looking for used options

I'm not too familiar with bike racks of the past decade or so as I haven't kept up. But for like 20 years, my dad owned a solid tube style bike rack that held 4 bikes for just about every trip we took it on. And half of the bikes were cheap, heavy, and bulky. That rack handled them like a champ. So in my mind, I've always liked that kind of a rack over the tray style. The tray style has always looked so large in comparison and looks like it brings higher risk to backing it up into something. But again, I'm very unfamiliar with what's out there. My assumption is, if you spend the right money, either rack can be very good. I probably agree that I wouldn't cheap out on something like this. But then again... if it's two light bikes going on a small tube rack like OP posted, I can't really imagine it being a problem.

bababooey 01-11-2023 02:46 PM

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ive been running the eco-hitch stealth 1.5" receiver that bolts onto crash bar/bumper after taking off that plastic cover paired w/ the saris all star bike rack w/ 2 full sus bikes for a few years now, no problems. i stayed away from slambert in fear of bending, plus i dont want that rack if im not dragging bikes

https://torkliftcentral.com/trailer-...tch/subaru/brz

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PRMJ979...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

fredzy 01-11-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bababooey (Post 3563738)
ive been running the eco-hitch stealth 1.5" receiver that bolts onto crash bar/bumper after taking off that plastic cover paired w/ the saris all star bike rack w/ 2 full sus bikes for a few years now, no problems. i stayed away from slambert in fear of bending, plus i dont want that rack if im not dragging bikes

Nice. This is the one that the receiver can be removed when not in use, correct? I sorta regret getting the Slambert instead of this. I passed partly because I didn't want to take a risk and be a guinea pig to see if it would work on the 2nd gen, especially at that price. But I'm sure it would have worked fine.

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Originally Posted by Dzmitry (Post 3563678)
I'm not too familiar with bike racks of the past decade or so as I haven't kept up. But for like 20 years, my dad owned a solid tube style bike rack that held 4 bikes for just about every trip we took it on. And half of the bikes were cheap, heavy, and bulky. That rack handled them like a champ. So in my mind, I've always liked that kind of a rack over the tray style. The tray style has always looked so large in comparison and looks like it brings higher risk to backing it up into something. But again, I'm very unfamiliar with what's out there. My assumption is, if you spend the right money, either rack can be very good. I probably agree that I wouldn't cheap out on something like this. But then again... if it's two light bikes going on a small tube rack like OP posted, I can't really imagine it being a problem.

The tube type is 100% adequate, like I said particularly if you're carrying simpler bikes (aluminum or steel frames, not concerned about the paint) and/or you won't use it super frequently.

The big advantages of tray-type are that they're generally a lot quicker and easier to get the bike on and off in a secure way, and much less likely to damage the bike or permit the bike to damage the car (loose handlebars flopping around, bike swinging around etc.)

I had a bike pop half way off my hang-type rack repeatedly. It was a nice Thule one, not a lot cheaper than a typical tray type. First time I chalked it up as a fluke - maybe I forgot to fasten one of the straps? I was extremely diligent after than and... boom, happened again, $4000 bike half hanging off the back of my car at 65mph on the highway. It seems the bike wiggling slightly found a way to pop the rubber straps off. I had a tray rack a week later and wish I'd gotten one sooner.

Dzmitry 01-11-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fredzy (Post 3563749)
Nice. This is the one that the receiver can be removed when not in use, correct? I sorta regret getting the Slambert instead of this. I passed partly because I didn't want to take a risk and be a guinea pig to see if it would work on the 2nd gen, especially at that price. But I'm sure it would have worked fine.



The tube type is 100% adequate, like I said particularly if you're carrying simpler bikes (aluminum or steel frames, not concerned about the paint) and/or you won't use it super frequently.

The big advantages of tray-type are that they're generally a lot quicker and easier to get the bike on and off in a secure way, and much less likely to damage the bike or permit the bike to damage the car (loose handlebars flopping around, bike swinging around etc.)

I had a bike pop half way off my hang-type rack repeatedly. It was a nice Thule one, not a lot cheaper than a typical tray type. First time I chalked it up as a fluke - maybe I forgot to fasten one of the straps? I was extremely diligent after than and... boom, happened again, $4000 bike half hanging off the back of my car at 65mph on the highway. It seems the bike wiggling slightly found a way to pop the rubber straps off. I had a tray rack a week later and wish I'd gotten one sooner.

Interesting. I definitely believe you could run into issues for sure with the hang-type rack. I know some stuff was to our advantage when taking our bikes on the rack I discussed. One of which was that we had multiple bikes (always 2-4). This helped push them together and solidify their position more. We would also always put a bungie cord around all of them to really tighten things up. I also liked the two straps that hold each bike as they were a stretchable rubber type of material. We would stretch the hell out of them to make sure they were strapping each bike down at full force.

But as you mention, I can certainly see the disadvantages that you describe. Though my dads $2.5K bike never did take any damage all those years, and that was one of the bikes that always went on the trips.

bababooey 01-11-2023 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fredzy (Post 3563749)
Nice. This is the one that the receiver can be removed when not in use, correct? I sorta regret getting the Slambert instead of this. I passed partly because I didn't want to take a risk and be a guinea pig to see if it would work on the 2nd gen, especially at that price. But I'm sure it would have worked fine.


no you can still see the hitch below that black valence (right below 4th brake light) when the rack is not on. from what ive been told this style hitch may not work with all AM exhaust systems. And will not work with any diffusers. i used to have the trunk mount type and the wind blowing @ HWY speeds started to bend the metal near the glass. I also got lucky the hitch cleared my AM works AB-M exhaust, i dont think they make it anymore. dont have a 22+ yet but that's the first thing I investigate if the bolts line up to the new one.

Snoopysvet 01-17-2023 10:52 AM

How does this attach?


https://torkliftcentral.com/trailer-...tch/subaru/brz

dragoontwo 01-17-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoopysvet (Post 3564606)

It sandwiches between the body and rear crash beam. Your link is broken.

Tomyyyu 05-17-2023 02:59 PM

Slambert performance mount.

1-1/4” hitch mount and that’s it!

It’s dope.


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Tomyyyu 05-17-2023 03:02 PM

Hauling a bicycle in a GR86
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 3558657)
Can confirm Slambert mount and hitch works well. Takes 5 minutes to install the mount and your hitch. Also, yes, the 1-1/4 receiver allows the hitch to bounce and rock, which can be unsettling. You can find a "silencer" plate that bolts around the receiver and hitch and that works okay to help some play, but it wants to loosen itself after a few uses.

https://i.ibb.co/VNfGWF1/PXL-20220112-163741931.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg

Buy a safety strap that you wrap around the hitch and the bike to give you a bit more piece of mind.

My only complain is that for whatever reason the right bolt of the Slambert hitch backs out slowly and needs periodically re-tightened. I also would not attempt 2 bikes. My hitch is around 35 pounds, plus another 35 with the MTB. I could do another, but it would be sketchy.


Hm, yeah you definitely want to use a silencer.

I have a curt mount and they recommend a strap to reduce shaking. Regardless what silencer did you get so I know it fits 100%?


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Snoopysvet 05-22-2023 11:35 AM

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I ended up with a 2023 BRZ Manual transmission.
In addition I purchased Slambert hitch and Allen rack. Love this car and can haul my bike.

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nripinbabu@gmail.com 12-31-2025 02:52 PM

I have my slambert mount listed on flebay ,
its new and unused.


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