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mrlewistan 08-21-2012 07:14 AM

Am i crazy for not wanting
 
am i crazy for not wanting to modify my frs in any way? Dont get me wrong, alot of mods will make the frs look better and perform better but i cant get over the fact that the frs is the very very first generation of a car that shares nothing with any previous cars from either toyota or subaru.

I really would like some tint on the windows or a spoiler to keep the rear planted on the highway tho...

DaveFTW 08-21-2012 07:17 AM

Only thing that's a must go, are the emblems.

whitefrs 08-21-2012 07:23 AM

All im doing this year is

Emblems (black)
Grimmspeed plate relocator
Hids
Tints

Next year (after winter)
Coilovers or springs
Hyperblack rota torques 18x9 et 28

S2kphile 08-21-2012 07:30 AM

I would agree but not for the reason you're stating. Because Subaru/Toyota put soo much R&D into the car, modifying it in any way will change the dynamics of the car and will have a ripple effect into everything. And also

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ngabdala 08-21-2012 07:50 AM

You're not crazy at all. The car is great right out of the box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlewistan (Post 392660)
am i crazy for not wanting to modify my frs in any way? Dont get me wrong, alot of mods will make the frs look better and perform better but i cant get over the fact that the frs is the very very first generation of a car that shares nothing with any previous cars from either toyota or subaru.

I really would like some tint on the windows or a spoiler to keep the rear planted on the highway tho...


oops86 08-21-2012 08:16 AM

It's not crazy at all. I'm keeping mine pure stock, partly for financial reasons, partly for warranty reasons. The only things I'm looking at doing to the car at all during the span of my ownership (I.E. until I die or the US bans ICE engines) are getting a TRD spoiler, getting a repaint eventually (with vinyls), and dropping a new engine in when the original dies.

CptnSlow 08-21-2012 08:38 AM

The only things I plan on doing are easily reversible back to stock if the need ever arises.

Any major upgrades will be with TRD parts only. I plan on keeping as much value as possible.

I'm not a teenager anymore and I think more with my bank account than whether or not chicks will dig it.

Texas BRZ 08-21-2012 08:45 AM

I agree with some of the above posts...

I'm keeping my FR-S stock because:
  • I'd like to keep the factory engineering of the car untouched.
  • My warranty is very precious.
  • And money is tight these days, therefore I need to stay conservative.
I find nothing wrong with staying stock... My modifying days may very likely be over, and I don't see myself touching my FR-S. This car will be one of my last three cars which I haven't modified at all. :respekt:

wbradley 08-21-2012 08:52 AM

All I plan to do is LEDs and HIDs this year. And because work has been a nightmare the past 2 months and I am on straight commission, AND I have had absolutely NO nibbles selling my 2012 xB despite running several online ads...

I promised the wife I wouldnt do ANYTHING yet.

...which sucks

pr086 08-21-2012 09:09 AM

i feel the same way. only thing i can see myself doing is a cat back exhaust. it's easy enough to put the stock one back on if i ever wanted to.

grk 08-21-2012 09:17 AM

Planning on keeping it stock and just enjoying it the way it comes, for at least the first 6 months. If I like what I see with regards to FI kits and the price is right for me, then I will consider going down that path. Depends on how the car handles the additional power in the long term.

I feel like the first iteration is just Toyota/Subaru putting their feelers out and seeing how the market responds. I think the MY14/15 will have a beefier engine and at least a higher performance model(trd/sti), so I'm considering keeping it bone stock for 18 months, trading in and preordering the STI version. Hard to say, depends on how the car responds to FI and if the engine turns out to be a beast and the transmission is able to handle the load no problem.

Xanatos 08-21-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by S2kphile (Post 392677)
I would agree but not for the reason you're stating. Because Subaru/Toyota put soo much R&D into the car, modifying it in any way will change the dynamics of the car and will have a ripple effect into everything.

I would agree with you for the most part but I would think TRD kept the balance in mind for their kits. I wouldn't be too sure about STI for the BRZ.

Others (in other threads) have stated that the resale value would go down if modifications are installed but you could just swap out your modifications for the stock parts when you want to resell and sell the mods separately if it makes more sense then.

As for me this will be my first new car so I'd like to personalize it as much as possible. Either way its up to the owner of the car to do what they feel is right! :happy0180:

Hix 08-21-2012 09:35 AM

The car was built to be an out of the box fun car, and it is. I would recommend taking off the huge emblems on the trunk and skip the spoiler though, but that's just me. Tint and a nicer set of tires wouldn't hurt resale value or take away from what they initially designed.

S2kphile 08-21-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Xanatos (Post 392811)
I would agree with you for the most part but I would think TRD kept the balance in mind for their kits. I wouldn't be too sure about STI for the BRZ.

:word:

I would only trust companies that actually put in significant amount of R&D into their parts for the FRS/BRZ and not just release parts like Cusco not saying they are bad parts it's just I wanna see the R&D, numbers, etc and how it affects everything else in the car. This car is already balanced out of the factory and I want to keep it that way if I'm gonna mod it or at least close to it.

russv 08-21-2012 09:58 AM

Not crazy at all. No one would want to buy a heavily modded used car, especially mechanical mods. I've only made a few subtle cosmetic mods (shark fin antenna, Grimmspeed license plate relocator and oil cap, exhaust tips, and trunk liner).

5hairpins 08-21-2012 10:14 AM

When I can push the car to it's limit and not mine, then I will consider upgrades.

Justin.b 08-21-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by russv (Post 392847)
Not crazy at all. No one would want to buy a heavily modded used car, especially mechanical mods. I've only made a few subtle cosmetic mods (shark fin antenna, Grimmspeed license plate relocator and oil cap, exhaust tips, and trunk liner).

Not true. If you build the car right, someone will buy it. I had no trouble selling my 1991 240sx with an SR20DET and a pile of other modifications. Everything was done well and well documented. I sold it 5 years ago and the guy who bought it is still driving it.

As a replacement for that, I bought a Miata that had been modified. The seller was an aircraft mechanic and promptly sent me photos of any area I was concerned with. I ended up getting the car for the same price as an unmodified car, with Ohlins coilovers, upgraded sway bars, a roll bar and a few other things that I would have wanted to do to the car anyway once I got it. In his case, the mods didn't add value - but they certainly didn't prevent him from selling.

If you are going to try to leave the mods on for selling, keep the exterior stuff to a minimum. Spoilers, wings, neon, dark tint, slammed suspension, big wheels, headlight/taillight hacks.... those are things that (in most cases) make it look like a child modified the car.

It is almost always going to be easier to sell an unmodified car. If your mods are tasteful / subtle, you may not get any more money for it and it may take a little longer, but you will still be able to sell. If you make it look like an extra from fnf, goodluck trying to sell to the craigslist deadbeats.

-Justin

Wolfking 08-21-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlewistan (Post 392660)
am i crazy for not wanting to modify my frs in any way? Dont get me wrong, alot of mods will make the frs look better and perform better but i cant get over the fact that the frs is the very very first generation of a car that shares nothing with any previous cars from either toyota or subaru.

I really would like some tint on the windows or a spoiler to keep the rear planted on the highway tho...

No you're not crazy at all. There's something to be said for "original condition." From my R31 Skyline to an FRS at age 42. I'm truely glad just to have a "driver's car" under $30k. I may purchase additional wheels and tint the windows, but I seriously doubt much more beyond that will take place.

Enjoy it for what it is and consider yourself to be among the fortunate few. :party0030:

russv 08-21-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin.b (Post 392875)
Not true. If you build the car right, someone will buy it. I had no trouble selling my 1991 240sx with an SR20DET and a pile of other modifications. Everything was done well and well documented. I sold it 5 years ago and the guy who bought it is still driving it.

As a replacement for that, I bought a Miata that had been modified. The seller was an aircraft mechanic and promptly sent me photos of any area I was concerned with. I ended up getting the car for the same price as an unmodified car, with Ohlins coilovers, upgraded sway bars, a roll bar and a few other things that I would have wanted to do to the car anyway once I got it. In his case, the mods didn't add value - but they certainly didn't prevent him from selling.

If you are going to try to leave the mods on for selling, keep the exterior stuff to a minimum. Spoilers, wings, neon, dark tint, slammed suspension, big wheels, headlight/taillight hacks.... those are things that (in most cases) make it look like a child modified the car.

It is almost always going to be easier to sell an unmodified car. If your mods are tasteful / subtle, you may not get any more money for it and it may take a little longer, but you will still be able to sell. If you make it look like an extra from fnf, goodluck trying to sell to the craigslist deadbeats.

-Justin

I sold a Mini Cooper back to the dealer and the first question they asked was if there were any mods.

Justin.b 08-21-2012 11:25 AM

Sorry about that. I was talking about private sales.

-Justin

computertech01 08-21-2012 11:32 AM

My dealership is cool with mods as long as they aren't too high performance and don't throw codes. So things like axle back / intake are fine but I still need to check if the light weight pulley is a go.

Touge_ninja 08-21-2012 11:35 AM

Gonna get it wrapped to change color. Only thing I'm gonna be doing.

Rampage 08-21-2012 11:39 AM

You would not know it from reading this forum but more people will not modify their car than will. That is how it is with all cars, even performance cars.

Bear in mind that this does not include switching to different tires once the stock ones wear out. The OEM tires are simply too expensive to put back on the car when there are much better performers available at a lower price.

jadewbj 08-21-2012 04:09 PM

You are not crazy, it is your car. I love to mod cars, always have and always will. It is just in my blood. All of my cars have been modified and I have sold the last two for a profit. It all depends on what you do, how much you get the car and parts for and being patient to find the right buyer.

Chuynh207 08-21-2012 07:11 PM

My first mod will be rims. Only getting new rims because I have a set of snow tires that were for my STi. Obviously I no longer have the STi, and I'm having trouble selling the tires. So the new rims will be to accommodate my snow tires for the winter, and will get summer tires next spring.

I would like to do HIDs and tints, however I'm going to hold off as I do more research into the HID department. I don't want anything to happen and a light goes out on my in the middle of the night

dem00n 08-21-2012 07:29 PM

Modding cars just makes it more fun, makes the car more yours. I'm going to do some small mods, maybe even add a turbo down the line if they are safe enough.

fatoni 08-21-2012 07:39 PM

makes sense at this point. i never understood why people mod cars without any reasons. i can understand down the line once people have realized what they dont like about the thing. its just that too often it seems like people drive the thing off the lot and right into a tuning garage

RRnold 08-21-2012 07:45 PM

Your car, your choice. I believe in only modify what you can put back.


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