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PuGZoR 10-26-2009 01:42 AM

FT-86 Production Name
 
There's a lot of controversy where the FT86 will fit into Toyotas lineup, in terms of name. There are a few options flying around:

Celica
Corolla (Levin or Trueno included)
Sprinter

Do you think it'll go under one of those historic names or will it have a completely new model name all together? Or maybe will it come under another already known model? Leave your comments!

ichitaka05 10-26-2009 01:47 AM

Toyota gonna name after me.:bellyroll:
anyways, they might keep it ask FT-86 or maybe take of the 86 and make it FT.

PuGZoR 10-26-2009 01:53 AM

Personally, I think it'll come under the Celica namesake.

For those young out there, there was a time when the Celica was a very sporty car. Even the Supra actually stemmed from the Celica (I actually had an MA61 Celica Supra!) back in the days when RWD was still the most commonly produced platform (pre-1984). Only after then the Celica was retarded by the FF platform; still living out its days as Toyotas budget level sports car, despite having the most suitable platform for it.

Yeah the name was damaged, but I can't see why it couldn't be revived. Anyone who cares will know it's RWD anyway and not a nerfed FWD. Could be a good excuse for old Celica pics to be in the promo gear too. :)

Might be why the project was codenamed 086A too, A being the designation for the Celica platform (RAxx, MAxx, GAxx, JZAxx, etc) with the engine code being infront of that.

For those who don't know: The AE86 was marketed in Japan as a Corolla Levin and Corolla Trueno, USA as a Corolla GTV and SR5 (right?) and in Australia as the Toyota Sprinter (hence why it is the third option).

cyde01 10-26-2009 01:55 AM

sprinter name is already taken in the US.

http://www.dodge.com/en/2009/sprinter/

Shevon 10-26-2009 02:01 AM

My vote is for FT-86. its already catchy

Jordo! 10-26-2009 02:20 AM

They can't call it the "FT" anything as "FT" stands for "Future Toyota"...

"Celica" will garner more love than any other name, and it's totally appropriate for this car.

Hell, going by it's power:weight and looks, you might think of this as the last gen Celica done properly :D

White Comet 10-26-2009 02:20 AM

Levin or Trueno would be awesome, but I think they're going for something new, which would also be a good move.

They're not gonna name it Celica. I'm sure of that.

Jordo! 10-26-2009 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1910)
Levin or Trueno would be awesome, but I think they're going for something new, which would also be a good move.

They're not gonna name it Celica. I'm sure of that.

Actually, that's the one name they keep suggesting would be the one...

What's yer paypal? I'll bet ya 5 bucks it's the 8th gen Celica :bellyroll:

Shevon 10-26-2009 02:26 AM

if they wont leave it as is the trueno GT/GTS/GTS TRD will work

White Comet 10-26-2009 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1912)
Actually, that's the one name they keep suggesting would be the one...

What's yer paypal? I'll bet ya 5 bucks it's the 8th gen Celica :bellyroll:

Whose "they?"

Both myself and another poster (OldSchoolToys, I believe) explained that this would not be a good move because Toyota is trying start fresh, and the Celica nameplate is a tired one that really has no appeal to the general public. If Toyota hypes up a "new Celica" to the public when the marketing machine begins, people are going to yawn... because while they didn't "care" for the Celica, the collective consciousness remembers it as a car that Toyota has had for a long time. Hell, most people might not even know it was discontinued a year back.

Now, take the exact same commercials and replace "all new Celica" with "the (insert new nameplate), and it will be more likely to strike a chord with the public.

Oh, and I'll take that bet. Loser buys the winner a beer at the first big FT86 meet. :thumbsup:

cyde01 10-26-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1909)
They can't call it the "FT" anything as "FT" stands for "Future Toyota"...

"Celica" will garner more love than any other name, and it's totally appropriate for this car.

Hell, going by it's power:weight and looks, you might think of this as the last gen Celica done properly :D

yeah well they're gonna call the Lexus sports car LFA and that stands for lexus future as well. dunno what the a stands for tho.:iono:

cyde01 10-26-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1919)
Whose "they?"

Chief engineer Tada and Motor Trend, who interviewed him.
Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1919)
If Toyota hypes up a "new Celica" to the public when the marketing machine begins, people are going to yawn...

ok lets be real now. look at the car!! if the production model looks anything like the concept you could call it the toyota urkel and people wouldn't be yawning! call it the toyota butt monkey for all i care i'm still getting it!

Jordo! 10-26-2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1919)
Oh, and I'll take that bet. Loser buys the winner a beer at the first big FT86 meet. :thumbsup:

"They" = Chief engineer for the project, Satoru Tada, and by extention, of Toyota Motor Co.

Beer sounds good, but Vancouver's a bit of a hike for me... shit, now I want a marzen... :happy0180:

ichitaka05 10-26-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1949)
"They" = Chief engineer for the project, Satoru Tada, and by extention, of Toyota Motor Co.

Beer sounds good, but Vancouver's a bit of a hike for me... shit, now I want a marzen... :happy0180:

quick correction
It Tetsuya Tada. Tada is last name.:)

NeXuS-GT 10-26-2009 10:29 AM

I voted other.

Celica I don't think so.. the concept is based on the AE86.

And to me the trueno or sprinter name don't really fit when I take a look at the car :)

Hachiroku 10-26-2009 11:03 AM

I voted for a new name. While I don't think that naming it "Celica" will necessarily hurt sales, I don't think it'll actually help sales either. In that case, I'd rather see a completely new nameplate on the car, something to signal the fresh approach and design of this car, unlike anything Toyota has made in a long while. Look at how much buzz a new name (like the Genesis Coupe) can generate.

OR

Just leave it FT-86 which by the time production car is out, will already be widely well known.

Slothman86 10-26-2009 11:20 AM

FT-86 actually sounds decent. but it's sounds like a scion to me. TC. FT. XB. XD. XA....AE? Same type of 2 letters. But Then you have the FJ. So... I dunno.

some ideas...not really original
Sprinter Trueno.
AE.
Super Sprinter.
Corolla Sprinter.
Corolla GTS.
Corolla FT
86.
Slider or Slide. Slyde?

NeXuS-GT 10-26-2009 11:40 AM

Wow, You just make me think.. I just hope it'll not sold under Scion's name.. Because we don't have them here in Canada

S2KtoFT86 10-26-2009 12:21 PM

Name makes no difference to me. I will buy it regardless. Mine won't have any badging on it either so naming isn't important.

MR2fan 10-26-2009 12:58 PM

Looks like we're not the only ones obsessed with this question :)

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/26/t...rates-over-pr/

The people who think this car should be badged a Scion are nuts.

The Subaru version of this car would sell like crap if the Toyota version was badged a Scion.

+1 10-26-2009 01:38 PM

I think Toyota it will call it something we have yet to think of. But I would like a reference to the principles of the car.

VenomRush 10-26-2009 03:09 PM

they should call it the TS-86 if not FT.. i wouldn't mind calling it the TS (toyota subaru)

ichitaka05 10-26-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2fan (Post 1970)
Looks like we're not the only ones obsessed with this question :)

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/26/t...rates-over-pr/

The people who think this car should be badged a Scion are nuts.

The Subaru version of this car would sell like crap if the Toyota version was badged a Scion.

Why badge it to Scion is bad? It's like Celica.



Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 2000)
they should call it the TS-86 if not FT.. i wouldn't mind calling it the TS (toyota subaru)

ST-86 sound better. Not Subaru Toyota, but Super Toyota. lol

markfromaurora 10-26-2009 04:13 PM

if it will be called corolla or celica i wont buy it just for that... associates too much with the bland current products

markfromaurora 10-26-2009 04:13 PM

also no go if its a scion

MTD 10-26-2009 04:18 PM

Scion already has their own concept called the Fuse and Scion is only sold in the US and maybe Canada next year, so what about the rest of the world? another Toyota name?

Celica I could live with, but I like the FT86 name.

zigzagz94 10-26-2009 05:24 PM

I obviously voted for Celica for all the reasons I said in the drifting thread but I'll buy it regardless of name.

4agze 10-26-2009 05:34 PM

personally i didnt think that this car will be called corolla, trueno, levin, sprinter or even chassis code FT86 i dont know but i have a feeling they will call it different ether way it the specs are right and the price is right ill get one.

gdi2290 10-26-2009 05:49 PM

I'm sure it will be named Celica
I really don't want it to be named that, but chances are it will
Just as the Wii had the code name Revolution which would have sound way better they gave it a good marketing name, the Wii. If the name FT86 is the code name for the Revolution than Celica would be the logical choice in a good marketing name as the term Wii is.
Celica 2010 Rumors
http://www.rpmgo.com/images/new_toyo...ica_subaru.jpg
http://www.autospies.com/images/user...and%20rear.JPG


AE86 Rumor
http://images.paultan.org/images/Toyota_New_AE86_1.jpg
http://images.paultan.org/images/Toyota_New_AE86_2.jpg
http://images.paultan.org/images/Toyota_New_AE86_3.jpg



The rumor images all have similar traits to a Celica and a Supra and ruling out the Supra leaves the Celica name
when looking around the internet two names show up for the FT86
Celica and Supra
I really wanted the FT-HS and was hoping it could replace the Supra, but from what I know that concept is just a dream. The FT86 is offspring the FT-HS design with all of its potential.

if it is going to be named Celica I am going to remove all the decal and place Trueno on it
or everyone true to the name FT86 should rebadged the car with a FT86 Emblem giving us a true FT86 club

ichitaka05 10-26-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 2042)
personally i didnt think that this car will be called corolla, trueno, levin, sprinter or even chassis code FT86 i dont know but i have a feeling they will call it different ether way it the specs are right and the price is right ill get one.

bit of correction. Name is FT-86 concept (right now). Chassis project code is 086A

4agze 10-26-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2049)
bit of correction. Name is FT-86 concept (right now). Chassis project code is 086A

ok so even the 086A i dont even think this will be the chassis code

Jordo! 10-26-2009 07:00 PM

There's a very small chance they'd release it as a Scion, but my money is still on Celica.

S2KtoFT86 10-26-2009 07:02 PM

Shaving and debadging go go!! :fighting0040:

DanZilla 10-26-2009 08:17 PM

I swear I'd be sooooooo mad if it was called Celica. I want Sprinter or FT86

Bochet 10-27-2009 04:24 PM

To everyone EXCEPT for the enthusiasts, Celica = Budget Toyota comparable to a Civic.

I think it'll be something new. I actually have come to like FT86, but I can't really see that sticking.

Sprinter would be ok, but the big Dodge van does come in to mind.

I dunno, but I don't think it'll be Celica and certainly not Corolla. Something new.

OldSkoolToys 10-27-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bochet (Post 2302)
To everyone EXCEPT for the enthusiasts, Celica = Budget Toyota comparable to a Civic.

I think it'll be something new. I actually have come to like FT86, but I can't really see that sticking.

Sprinter would be ok, but the big Dodge van does come in to mind.

I dunno, but I don't think it'll be Celica and certainly not Corolla. Something new.

Sprinter is what the original AE86 should've been badged as in the U.S. It was a mistake to slap so boldly the word "COROLLA" on that car and expect people to buy it.

Arcangel 10-27-2009 05:51 PM

I voted other! Celica was mostly remembered as FWD so i think they should introduce it as Supra

Bochet 10-27-2009 05:57 PM

This car is in no way the next Supra. That'd be a mistake too.

Sprinter is what I'm leaning towards now. Light, quick, has some heritage.

zigzagz94 10-27-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcangel (Post 2341)
I voted other! Celica was mostly remembered as FWD so i think they should introduce it as Supra

:sigh: short memories...

OldSkoolToys 10-27-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bochet (Post 2345)
This car is in no way the next Supra. That'd be a mistake too.

Sprinter is what I'm leaning towards now. Light, quick, has some heritage.

some?

The sprinter line of trim models for the corolla dates back to 1968. There's a lot of heritage behind that name.


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