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gymratter 09-25-2022 01:25 AM

Next Gen Toyota Prius Spotted
 
doesnt appear to be as offensive as the current model

https://alexonautos.com/2024-toyota-...-like-a-snack/

https://alexonautos.com/wp-content/u...5.42.10-PM.png
https://alexonautos.com/wp-content/u...5.42.28-PM.png
https://alexonautos.com/wp-content/u...5.42.37-PM.png

chops from bestcar

https://bestcarweb.jp/feature/column/484148

https://www.carvibz.com/wp-content/u...yota-Prius.jpg
https://www.carvibz.com/wp-content/u...ta-Prius_2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaH4QOM5d_Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2iEeSaV2HU&t=228s

Sasquachulator 09-25-2022 01:59 AM

The new toyota design language is clearly going to be like the BZ4X or crown or whatever was shown during that EV reveal wiith the upraked lobster claw headlight design (which is also curiously used on the new Ferarri Purosangue)

Dont know if i like the tailight design (Not a fan of the Crown's rear...but it looks worse in the two tone colouring scheme). Its kind of reminding me of the BMW rear end where it looks like they're taking an SUV focused design and trying to use it on sedans and such...it looks awful on the BMW 4 series gran coupe.

The shape doesnt look all that much different than the past prius....but it seems to be a bit more of a sharper wedgy shape. Does look pretty slick.

Kind of makes me wonder what the role of the Prius is now that Camry and Corolla both have full hybrid options. That makes the Prius redundant if its just going to be the same but more efficient. They could use it as a testbed for new EV or hybrid tech though, like say be the first use of Solid State Batteries.

under the radar fact, the Prius C got a second gen in Japan and it uses new-for-vehicle-use battery tech called Bipolar Nickel-hydrogen. Its kind of an evolution of Nickel Metal Hydride. on a regular NiMH battery individual NiMH cells comprises of a collector, the electrolyte mix and another collector. And multiple cells make up the battery.
In the bipolar battery, the cells would actually share a common collector with another cell. This reduces material use, reduces size and increases density.

DarkPira7e 09-25-2022 09:26 AM

Looks like a kia

PulsarBeeerz 09-25-2022 12:00 PM

It may come with 181hp and awd again. I don't mind it.

soundman98 09-25-2022 12:02 PM

looks like a honda

soundman98 09-25-2022 12:03 PM

looks like a chrysler

weederr33 09-26-2022 12:01 AM

Looks like a daewoo

Captain Snooze 09-26-2022 02:06 AM

Looks like every other car that looks like it.

LRNAD90 10-13-2022 04:24 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Cool Prius - Said Nobody

Dake 10-15-2022 01:43 PM

It is kind of neat (as far as these things go) if it turns out to be as smooth as the renders predict. I've not been a fan of all the odd, near random looking aero creases on recent models. Not that I'll be buying one regardless.

wbradley 10-15-2022 05:06 PM

Daewoo, that's who!

For a good time look up the Daewoo Leganza completely failing the NHTS frontal crash test on YouTube.
Drove one as a rental in Saint Maartin once.

spike021 10-23-2022 06:05 PM

I don't mind the front. Rear is a bit too out there for me. But then again the Kia EV6 has kinda grown on me as far as odd, against the norm rear-ends go.

spike021 10-23-2022 06:05 PM

Also I didn't realize the thread was semi-bumped because of a bot. Rip me.

soundman98 10-23-2022 06:27 PM

Reported

vh_supra26 11-12-2022 02:37 PM

Save the Date: Livestream of the All-New Prius World Premier on November 16
 
https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/38225466.html

https://youtu.be/u61req90E4Y

Sasquachulator 11-14-2022 11:34 AM

hey you can actually see a bit of the front fascia and the rear end in that thumbnail lol.

The front has clear Toyota Crown vibes/elements (Seems to be the design direction of the new gen Toyota cars)
The rear end seems to have a bit of the wierd bulges that the current prius has, otherwise it does kind of match the wedge shape of that illustration.

taillights seem to follow the Mirai, Venza and Crown.

Sasquachulator 11-16-2022 12:52 AM

https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/38225618.html

I actually think it looks pretty slick.
Interior is a bit of a blend of Crown and BZ4x.

Its not prius slow either....about 6 seconds the guy said 0-60...(press release says 6.7 0-100km/h). thats a major jump seeing as how these things have historically been 10 second cars. 50% more EV range should be decent too. Seems the PHEV is about 220hp..... I think the HEV powertrains are the same in the Corolla and upcoming Corolla Cross: 134hp hybrid with a 1.8L motor, and 193hp with a 2.0 motor.

I never cared for prius. The Prius C was the only one that seemed semi appealing to me. But this is legit appealing

Man how embarassing does it sound that the first gen 86 can be outrun by a Prius lol. First it was Camry's, then minivans, and now the lowly Prius lol.

gymratter 11-16-2022 01:26 AM

Bestcar wasnt that far off

https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content...-Prius-3-1.jpg
https://www.carvibz.com/wp-content/u...yota-Prius.jpg
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content...-Prius-8-1.jpg
https://www.carvibz.com/wp-content/u...ta-Prius_2.jpg

botbs 11-16-2022 04:47 AM

https://www.modellista.co.jp/product/new_prius/

https://www.modellista.co.jp/product...ance_fr_pc.png

https://www.modellista.co.jp/product...ance_rr_pc.png

https://www.modellista.co.jp/product..._ice_fr_pc.png

https://www.modellista.co.jp/product..._ice_rr_pc.png

Tcoat 11-17-2022 10:25 AM

LOL It is also a very large and expensive portable generator!

"This model is equipped with two 100 VAC / 1,500 W accessory power outlets; one at the back of the center console and one in the cargo space. Users can select the BEV external power supply mode, which uses power from the battery only without having to start the engine, or the HEV external power supply mode, which recharges the battery from the engine if the remaining power is too low. It also comes with an external electric power supply attachment as standard so that external power supply is possible with the door windows closed to prevent rain and insects from getting in the car when in use."

https://global.toyota/pages/news/ima...6/1345/010.jpg

Sasquachulator 11-17-2022 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3556916)
LOL It is also a very large and expensive portable generator!

"This model is equipped with two 100 VAC / 1,500 W accessory power outlets; one at the back of the center console and one in the cargo space. Users can select the BEV external power supply mode, which uses power from the battery only without having to start the engine, or the HEV external power supply mode, which recharges the battery from the engine if the remaining power is too low. It also comes with an external electric power supply attachment as standard so that external power supply is possible with the door windows closed to prevent rain and insects from getting in the car when in use."

https://global.toyota/pages/news/ima...6/1345/010.jpg

Gotta be part of the snobby EV gang.....cars need to have frunks, car's need to be able to power your house in the event of an outage, and a new one....car's need to have flush door handles because the "regular" ones that Toyota has been using for ages ruins the aerodynamic flow of the car...(yes the freaking exterior DOOR HANDLES is something some EV nuts wanted to pick on.......its probably up there as one of the most pointless things to nitpick a car with....worse than the toyota cruise control stalk and the digital clock (which to be fair are perfectly functional, just dated looking in modern times), maybe up there with the one touch 3 blink turn signal function or the BMW style not staying in place stalks. Its almost as if the requirement of an EV or some type of Electrified vehicle HAS to have EVERYTHING electronic or powered electronically rather than it being a far less complicated (and far less failure prone) mechanical function

Dake 11-17-2022 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3556916)
LOL It is also a very large and expensive portable generator!

"This model is equipped with two 100 VAC / 1,500 W accessory power outlets; one at the back of the center console and one in the cargo space. Users can select the BEV external power supply mode, which uses power from the battery only without having to start the engine, or the HEV external power supply mode, which recharges the battery from the engine if the remaining power is too low. It also comes with an external electric power supply attachment as standard so that external power supply is possible with the door windows closed to prevent rain and insects from getting in the car when in use."

https://global.toyota/pages/news/ima...6/1345/010.jpg

Well, it's cheaper than a Ford Lightning - though the Lightning can power a house.

Quote:

Gotta be part of the snobby EV gang.....cars need to have frunks, car's need to be able to power your house in the event of an outage, and a new one....car's need to have flush door handles because the "regular" ones that Toyota has been using for ages ruins the aerodynamic flow of the car...(yes the freaking exterior DOOR HANDLES is something some EV nuts wanted to pick on.......its probably up there as one of the most pointless things to nitpick a car with....worse than the toyota cruise control stalk and the digital clock (which to be fair are perfectly functional, just dated looking in modern times), maybe up there with the one touch 3 blink turn signal function or the BMW style not staying in place stalks. Its almost as if the requirement of an EV or some type of Electrified vehicle HAS to have EVERYTHING electronic or powered electronically rather than it being a far less complicated (and far less failure prone) mechanical function
This is an odd rant.

Personally, I find most of the first half of that to be useful benefits of the platform when possible. Frunks are great - though tougher to do in the smaller form factor. There's still lots of components to stuff into the car and under the front hood is as good a place as any. Being able to use the battery pack of your car in an emergency is pretty handy. If nothing else, being able to run an extension cord to your fridge during an outage could be very helpful (assuming the car's system can handle the surge from the fridge's compressor kicking on). The rest? Eh, everyone nitpicks on something. I have to admit I haven't given a door handle much thought in a long time. I appreciate that the current Toyota handle seems pretty robust, though the fingernail scratches in the area behind the handle can be annoying. Of course I'd prefer no handles at all, just give me a door popper... though they aren't very practical anywhere that gets snow or ice.

I hadn't heard about the cruise control complaints - that's a funny one. I assume folks want more buttons on the steering wheel instead? My wife's 2020 RAV4 has all the controls on the wheel now, so I think they're moving that direction. And I love the classic digital clock. In fact if I had a complaint there it's that it's no longer the really basic, green LED digital clock like Toyota used for like - 30 years. :D

I do agree about one thing though - I hate the BMW turn-signal. ;)

ZDan 11-17-2022 06:18 PM

Car looks pretty cool! They should make a bad-ass GR Prius...

gymratter 11-17-2022 07:15 PM

a live look with random youtubers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwRD33uYxjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIHErBsWruo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgOZ6eWVYZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fsuHJAJTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eODicxv4OKQ

soundman98 11-17-2022 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3556916)
LOL It is also a very large and expensive portable generator!

"This model is equipped with two 100 VAC / 1,500 W accessory power outlets; one at the back of the center console and one in the cargo space. Users can select the BEV external power supply mode, which uses power from the battery only without having to start the engine, or the HEV external power supply mode, which recharges the battery from the engine if the remaining power is too low. It also comes with an external electric power supply attachment as standard so that external power supply is possible with the door windows closed to prevent rain and insects from getting in the car when in use."

https://global.toyota/pages/news/ima...6/1345/010.jpg

hopefully, it's a typo . typical power is 110-120v. 100v is considered too low, and can cause issues with some devices.

also, most outdoor outlets have a recess like that on them. no one uses them. that window part won't ever be used outside of that picture...

Tcoat 11-17-2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3557023)
hopefully, it's a typo . typical power is 110-120v. 100v is considered too low, and can cause issues with some devices.

also, most outdoor outlets have a recess like that on them. no one uses them. that window part won't ever be used outside of that picture...

Ya it is low.

You are talking about Prius owners here. They will 100% use that insert.

soundman98 11-17-2022 10:37 PM

i'm just laughing to myself of someone carrying that big thing around with them for the next 5 years of ownership "just in case"

botbs 11-19-2022 04:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo8hterB7W4

mazeroni 11-22-2022 04:09 PM

You all call it silly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaEHcBUv4VA

There are a few videos on Youtube showing people camping out of their Prius in a variety of conditions.

I think the ability to load up something like a mini-fridge or electric grill to take it with you to a park or when on road trips, without needing a generator or external power bank is nifty.

soundman98 11-22-2022 10:40 PM

it just all seems so familiar. if only i could place where i've seen the idea before...


https://cdn.drivingline.com/media/23...verland-21.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/7058/6...31c9c6d2_b.jpg

Sasquachulator 11-23-2022 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3557715)
it just all seems so familiar. if only i could place where i've seen the idea before...


https://cdn.drivingline.com/media/23...verland-21.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/7058/6...31c9c6d2_b.jpg

No one thinks of the Aztec being the pioneering car for these tent attachments (it even had a removable center console that doubled as a cooling box)
The Aztek wasn't the "cool" car it needed to be until Walter White got involved.

soundman98 11-23-2022 10:04 PM

the aztek was a pioneering vehicle of the cuv craze. good, or bad.

now most brands make a 4-door hatchback like it, just without so much ugliness.

Tcoat 11-24-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3557724)
No one thinks of the Aztec being the pioneering car for these tent attachments (it even had a removable center console that doubled as a cooling box)
The Aztek wasn't the "cool" car it needed to be until Walter White got involved.

Meh

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/...Qn/s-l1600.jpg

http://www.hardtuned.com/feature/hts...ftent/scan.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1e/a3/47/1...camper-van.jpg

Irace86.2.0 12-14-2022 11:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl-QKRvZm-M

Irace86.2.0 03-08-2023 03:07 PM

Prius Prime
 
50 miles of EV range is pretty decent. Could be completely EV for most buyers with the ability to travel far with refueling when the time comes, and of course, it eliminates range anxiety.

I agree with Toyota that plug-in hybrids will likely be around for a while for many people until the infrastructure exists to support EVs, which are just more efficient because they don't have to lug around dual powertrains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBO4...index=1&t=596s

pope 03-08-2023 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3571770)
. . .
I agree with Toyota that plug-in hybrids will likely be around for a while for many people until the infrastructure exists to support EVs, which are just more efficient because they don't have to lug around dual powertrains.

Not sure I agree with this part of your statement. All existing (and remotely near commercialization) battery technologies are no lighter than the second powertrain to achieve the same range. Pure EVs simply have a better eMPG because grid (or home) power generation, storage, and conversion to work is more efficient using electricity than burning fuel and wasting 65%+ out the tail pipe.

It’s not really lugging the combustion engine around that hurts efficiency, it’s using it that does.

Irace86.2.0 03-08-2023 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pope (Post 3571835)
Not sure I agree with this part of your statement. All existing (and remotely near commercialization) battery technologies are no lighter than the second powertrain to achieve the same range. Pure EVs simply have a better eMPG because grid (or home) power generation, storage, and conversion to work is more efficient using electricity than burning fuel and wasting 65%+ out the tail pipe.

It’s not really lugging the combustion engine around that hurts efficiency, it’s using it that does.

Sorry, yes, that was confusing on my part. I was thinking of something in my mind, but I didn't convey it in the right way. You are 100% correct to make that point. Let me try again...

What I was asking myself was why wouldn't it be best if all vehicles were plug-in hybrids (PHEVs)? If all vehicles were small battery PHEVs then that would be great because the average person would be fine charging their EV and driving it the 30-40 miles per day, and they wouldn't have range anxiety and could always guarantee to make it to a charger/home, and we would need to mine much less batteries. The PHEVs could be like the BMW i3 REx with a range extender designed to just get someone home, or it could be for the rare long trip. This is the ideal situation for the vast majority of people until the infrastructure is in place for fast charging and battery/car swapping. The question is why wouldn't we continue to have these PHEVs? Well, if we had all the infrastructure then the only reason to have a big battery is for performance or for the convenience of not having to charge so often on road trips, so in that case, the standard BMW i3 would be fine over the REx, which is just more efficient because they just don't have to lug around dual powertrains. The emissions are more because gasoline and the second powertrain increases end-of-life emissions, but the BMW i3 REx is 264lbs heavier than the i3 because it has a motor, fuel tank, fuel lines, etc., so even if someone never used the "just in case, rainy day" powertrain, and we didn't include that powertrain's end-of-life emissions, a PHEV is still going to be worse than a BEV because the car is carrying the extra weight of a second powertrain. Even if a PHEV increased its battery only range, a BEV version would be better, given the infrastructure to support its range.

Hopefully that clarified my thoughts. I'm guilting of assuming people can read my mind to understand my cryptic and confusing statements.

https://electricautonomy.ca/wp-conte...s-in-2030..jpg
https://theicct.org/wp-content/uploa...8143198277.png

Irace86.2.0 08-11-2023 06:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE6fFMbCt8Q&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZYkJ3JoRc

Dake 08-14-2023 02:54 PM

Those [totally fictional] modded Prius really drive home the idea that to me - a 2 door version could be a pretty convincing Celica. The front end treatment and roof line are very reminiscent of the progression between the 3rd, 4th and 5th gen lift-back Celicas.

Irace86.2.0 08-15-2023 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dake (Post 3589769)
Those [totally fictional] modded Prius really drive home the idea that to me - a 2 door version could be a pretty convincing Celica. The front end treatment and roof line are very reminiscent of the progression between the 3rd, 4th and 5th gen lift-back Celicas.

Yeah, that, and I'm sure if this kit existed, people might not have a problem covering the rear door with the wide body fender and just doing a rear seat delete with some subs and a cage.


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