I have a great idea!
 

Subaru should model their version after the FRS! Stick a turbo in there, brembo brakes and charge 30k then call it a day. Hire me for CEO SOA!

You forgot the straight 6 twin turbo and the carbon fiber chassis.

And I want a Fighter Jet that can fly me to another universe using a drop of diesel.

3.0l Flat-6 with 300 hp as light as the 2.0l 4cyl

Seriously, again?

http://www.tjwehrley.com/wp-content/..._this_shit.jpg

I want an engine that will run on the hopes and dreams of Subaru fanboys. I'll never run out of fuel.

I've already thought of something similar.

2.0 liter turbo with 265 hp/265tq
A Track Package(LSD/Brembo/18''wheels and tires/Track tuned suspension)
A Premium Interior Package(Leather seats/Premium Sound/etc)

MSRP $29,999+dest

Where do I sign up?

If Hyundai can do that with the GC (new Sonata turbo engine) Toyota/Subaru sure could. It is just a matter of whether they feel like doing it.


What about the Toyota/Scion fanboys. Should be the same.

Hah no doubt. I'm an equal opportunity enthusiast... except for Korean cars... they still have a bit of work to do to get me to drop in.

Like what? the Interior in the Gen Coupe is on par with Scion if not better?

The quality rivals Honda/Acura(Elantra and Sonata) and German automakers(GenSed and Equus) for the price.

Hopes and dreams (Suby fans) > Blind faith and submission (ToyoScion fans) :bellyroll:

Hahaha... so true.

As far as Hyundai, part of it is physical attributes... but some of it is mental too. Plus I've experienced the Hyundai of old and that left a very bad taste, much like Pontiac, and we see where they are now. There are just too many alternatives within my budget for me to make a large investment into a brand I don't trust.

:word:

The 2011 Genesis coupe interior has much better materials too. It felt more like a mid-high 20k interior rather than as cheap as the 2010 model.

I agree. I was pleasantly surprised when I test drove one several months back. I'm sure the 2013 GC will be even better. If Hyundai would not only put in the Sonata turbo (as rumors said they will) but also drop 250-300lbs from the car they would have a customer in me.

I like the fact that Hyundai was the first to pull it off. I still can't find a fully decked out sports car for around 30k unless it's halfway loaded or a base model.

I like my cake and eat it too!!!

3.8 Track Model

300+ hp
6 spd manual
RWD
Low slung Sports coupe body
Track Package
Premium Package
Nav Package
10year/100,000 mile warranty

MSRP $30,500+ dest

You'll be hard pressed to get all of that with any other manufacturer. Sure you could pay the same price and get 106 more horsepower and get a ''BASE" model 5.0 Stang or a "BASE" SS

^ yeah I agree. I personally prefer the looks of the GC over the Mustang and Camaro. Also, you can't beat the 10/100k warranty. I just wish they would put the car on a diet. Part of the reason I am interested in the FT86, I just want something nimble and lightweight.

Is there another universe? Maybe you mean another dimension?

"Through the Wormhole" with Morgan Freeman will BLOW YOUR MIND! :popcorn:

We won't know until we find out. O_O TO THE JET THAT TAKES US TO ANOTHER UNIVERSE!!

i can take you to another universe.... http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...gsofwar/ky.gif

:bellyroll:

Unauthorized image. :<

according to the unauthorized image... No, you can not take us to another universe...

Selective denial. It's true! the universe does hate some of you. :D

I just can't see them dropping the weight without blowing up the cost. That chassis is HEAVY because of the sharing with sedan, but also because of the suspension componenets

You could find aftermarket aluminum control arms, links, driveshafts.

You'll love this thread and will be able to see all the cast steel and iron used versus stamped.

http://www.rwdcoupe.com/suspension/1...-overview.html

Yeah I'm not holding my breath, but if they could get the weight closer to 3000lbs flat I would get one. I realize the $$ cost, so that is probably why they don't do that but that would be a dream of mine.

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Nothx. :l

Two smilie faces rubbing against each other is somewhat... st..range..

I thought that was called scissoring....:iono::bellyroll:

I would buy that so hard. I'd sprint into my neighborhood Subaru dealership with a suitcase full of money, do a five and a quarter spin throw like I'm some sort of world class Olympic discus thrower and launch that crap at the first salesman I see. Then jump in the car and peel out of the lot with a vengeance equal to that of an angry god.

I'd pass on the leather seats, premium sound, LSD, Brembos, 18s, suspension, and $30k sticker. But sign me up for a $25k sticker, 2.0 liter turbo with 265 hp/265tq. The rest I'll do my self thanks. :)

:bellyroll:

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaah :bellyroll:

The new Supra needs to be priced around a Vette, but it needs to out perform it...or AT LEAST be on par with it. Remember these articles back in the day?
http://i56.tinypic.com/2n9xmxs.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/3359p3k.jpg

They need to bring that world beating image back. The sticker should be right there around the Vette at $50k, maybe a bit more.

http://i52.tinypic.com/98yg74.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2n1vzif.jpg

Oh, and please DO NOT focus on what kind of fuel economy it gets. :)

^ Problem is, I mentioned in another thread, that it would need LFA performance for Corvette or GT-R money, and that's not going to go over too well with the LFA owners...

But there are only 500 of them and only will be 500 of them. Who cares what they think. ;) Toyota already has their money. Lol

So renew production, badge swap to 'Toyota Supra', de-Lexus the interior to save 200 lbs and sell them for $50k?

Win.

I wouldn't say LFA performance, more like Corvette Grand Sport performance. That leaves a pretty substantial gap between the two.


Top speed
LFA 202 mph
Vette 186 mph

Ring
LFA 7:38
Vette 7:59

1/4
LFA 11.8
Vette 12.5

0-60
LFA 3.5
Vette 4.5

60-0
LFA 106ft
Vette 112ft

Skid pad
LFA 1.07g
Vette .96g

Slalom
LFA 75.1 mph
Vette 68.8 mph

There are a lot of things they could leave off of the Supra. Things like custom ducting into the cabin is unnecessary and I'm sure costly. Launch Control. Even the counter gear driveshaft thing is, I would assume, a rather expensive addition. There are ooodles of things they could leave off of a more realistic/non-supercar car to keep a gap between the LFA and Supra. Don't you agree?

I was thinking of it needs a gap with the Supra's traditional rival, the GT-R. And even that is very close to the LFA. (2012 GT-R out-drags it, I think I saw somewhere...)

I know you know I was trolling. But in all seriousness I don't see why they couldn't used the FT86 chassis, drop the 2 rear seats, use the 2UR-GSE, 6 speed, use a minimalistic interior geared towards the driver and sell it for $50-60k.

That was an awesome throwback Supra article...the super cars of the 90s'