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spcmafia 08-16-2022 08:39 PM

The New Dodge Hornet
 
Motortrend: “The Hornet GT's Hurricane4 turbocharged 2.0-liter I-4 which pairs with a nine-speed automatic, will make 295 lb-ft of torque and at least 265 horsepower.
The cheapest Hornet will cost around $31,500. Dodge justifies that number by also loading its offering with premium standard equipment, including a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, a 10.3-inch infotainment touchscreen, blind-spot monitoring, lane-keeping assistance, rear parking sensors, and dual-zone climate control.”
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spcmafia 08-16-2022 08:42 PM

The bastard son of a wild night between Mazda CX and Honda Civic.

Im not into crossovers that much, but it looks nice. Can’t speak for the quality and reliability of Mopar products. Drove way too many in my rental days and was never convinced.

Sapphireho 08-16-2022 08:49 PM

Another boring car.

spcmafia 08-16-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3541949)
Another boring car.


Fun, Reliable, Cheap. You only get one.

Lantanafrs2 08-16-2022 08:58 PM

Chrysler, like gm is beholden to the government hence the push towards evs and generic crossover stuff like this. Hope it comes with a mask dispenser

Sapphireho 08-16-2022 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3541950)
Fun, Reliable, Cheap. You only get one.

Do you have to spin a wheel or something?

soundman98 08-16-2022 09:12 PM

looks all swollen, like it got stung by a superbee

Irace86.2.0 08-16-2022 10:09 PM

It isn't bad at all. Porsche Macan profile with the fastback look. Sharp hood and front and rear. It should sell well.

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Dodge calls the PHEV Hornet R/T model the "head of hive." The Hornet R/T is powered by a turbocharged 1.3-liter inline-4 that's paired with a six-speed automatic, an electric motor on the rear axle and a 15.5-kilowatt-hour battery pack. That adds up to over 285 hp and 383 lb-ft of torque, with the Hornet R/T able to hit 60 mph in 6.1 seconds. The R/T features a PowerShot button that provides an on-demand boost of 25 hp for up to 15 seconds, a feature that will be found on all of Dodge's PHEVs and EVs. Dodge says the Hornet R/T will have more than 30 miles of electric range, and it can be recharged in two and a half hours on a Level 2 charger.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...hev-suv-debut/

Pat 08-16-2022 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3541950)
Fun, Reliable, Cheap. You only get one.

Are you familiar with the Subaru BRZ?

soundman98 08-16-2022 11:12 PM

lol, i see 2000 galant

bcj 08-17-2022 02:14 AM

The top pic wheel arches look like some sort of roman masonry horrorshow.

spcmafia 08-17-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3541978)
Are you familiar with the Subaru BRZ?


I will give you that one. But with stipulations. Even more so with the current market and what some folks are asking for a 13 BRZ. It is super fun, sort of reliable (Refer to 2nd gen/ earlier 1sts) depending on how much fun you decide to have, and sort of cheap if you save for long enough. But yeah, for all intents and purposes, the twins sort of check all the boxes.

spcmafia 08-17-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3541954)
Do you have to spin a wheel or something?


Is like a box of chocolates.

Pat 08-17-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3542019)
I will give you that one. But with stipulations. Even more so with the current market and what some folks are asking for a 13 BRZ. It is super fun, sort of reliable (Refer to 2nd gen/ earlier 1sts)....

I would argue they check all three boxes exceptionally well.
I can't think of another car that is able to serve as one's only car that is more fun short of a $60,000 Porsche or BMW.
You mentioned reliability. What is unreliable about our cars? Are you referring to the RTV in the oil pickup? I think as time goes on people will start to realize that is not the cause of the miniscule number of failed engines.
And yes, people are asking a ridiculous amount for used BRZs. No doubt. But I question whether or not that is out of line with other used cars.

Dadhawk 08-17-2022 10:40 AM

Welcome to the new shape of the sedan. Let's face it, the cross over is complete.

Sasquachulator 08-17-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3541950)
Fun, Reliable, Cheap. You only get one.

Being a stellantis product, i dont even think you could get one......

Well maybe Fun is the only one that applies....since this thing is a rebadged Alfa Romeo Tonale.

spcmafia 08-17-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3542035)
Welcome to the new shape of the sedan. Let's face it, the cross over is complete.


Is not even its final form. They still have to go full electric, instead of being hybrid. Then adding a sound box so they emulate an ICE.

bcj 08-17-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3542039)
Being a stellantis product, i dont even think you could get one......

Well maybe Fun is the only one that applies....since this thing is a rebadged Alfa Romeo Tonale.

It IS a roman masonry horrorshow. OMG

spcmafia 08-17-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3542033)
I would argue they check all three boxes exceptionally well.
I can't think of another car that is able to serve as one's only car that is more fun short of a $60,000 Porsche or BMW.
You mentioned reliability. What is unreliable about our cars? Are you referring to the RTV in the oil pickup? I think as time goes on people will start to realize that is not the cause of the miniscule number of failed engines.
And yes, people are asking a ridiculous amount for used BRZs. No doubt. But I question whether or not that is out of line with other used cars.


It would be almost hypocritical of me to have negative comments about our cars since, hell, I own one. Luckily one, of reportedly, the version were most of the issues of earlier models were addressed. Which brings me back to my initial point. Of course, it would be cynical to suggest that no car ever released has never had reported issues or fixes along the way. But what started as a used internet joke doesn't have to get too technical in terms of suggesting that our cars check all the boxes. But I'll agree to disagree, speaking from personal experience with no connotations suggesting that I'm an expert on the twins.


Cost; My car wasn't cheap, I had to save for years, have good credit, and be in a good financial position to pull the trigger. At the same time its my own fault because I could've easily not buy it, or buy a 13 model. Even when I bought it at the beginning of the pandemic when no one had started buying/selling at the rate it is going. But I like to do my research, and research suggested buying the 17+.



Reliable? Yes, any car with proper maintenance is "reliable", but if we get really technical on the internet joke, you need a big asterisk on it, seeing the issues that plagued the earlier models.



Fun, absolutely, compared to what is out there for double or triple the price, depending on driving scenarios. Except when I lose to an angry soccer mom on the highway.



I like my BRZ, its been good so far, except with the occasionally random noise that shows up and send me into a spiral of panic. But at the same token I can't pretend is all I need, because there are plenty of times when I wish I had my old Mazda 3 Hatchback. Which is part of the reason of why Im looking into the GR Corolla and keeping the BRZ as weekend toy/pass it on to future kids.



I mean no ill, or desire to badmouth, or defend a Dodge product. I found it interesting, wouldn't buy one. For the sake of informing the forum of upcoming vehicles on the off-topic thread, it drove me to make the post. :cheers::cheers:

Dadhawk 08-17-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3542057)
I mean no ill, or desire to badmouth, or defend a Dodge product. I found it interesting, wouldn't buy one. For the sake of informing the forum of upcoming vehicles on the off-topic thread, it drove me to make the post. :cheers::cheers:

If I'm honest, I would have found this version of the Hornet in it's R/T trim interesting in my single days a million years ago when I loved smallish cars.

The price range certainly seems right and the looks are OK (I like it better than the GEN2 86). Definitely needs to be lowered a good bit though....

Tcoat 08-17-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3541951)
Chrysler, like gm is beholden to the government hence the push towards evs and generic crossover stuff like this. Hope it comes with a mask dispenser

You keep saying this but it hasn't been true since about 2008.
When looking at all of the Chrysler lineup, including Jeep and Ram they are miles and miles ahead of where they were 10 years ago.
The Ram truck is the second best selling vehicle in North America for 5 years now. Jeep has been in the top ten for about as long.
Fiat and then Stellantis have really cleaned them up and made the brand profitable again.

Irace86.2.0 06-14-2023 05:00 PM

Decent price for a raised hot hatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Hp...ist=WL&index=2

tiger1964 06-15-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3542039)
Being a stellantis product, i dont even think you could get one...... Well maybe Fun is the only one that applies....since this thing is a rebadged Alfa Romeo Tonale.

There's a time when we would have heard "Italian engineering, backed by a Chrysler warranty -- what could possibly go wrong?"

alphasaur 06-15-2023 11:39 AM

just going to chime in and say alfa's 2.0 liter engined cars are fairly reliable and the biggest issue were electronic gremlins in earlier model years.

Recent giulias have EXCELLENT driving dynamics, the engine is stout, and they are mostly trouble free.

Dake 06-19-2023 11:45 AM

That's just it - what good is mechanical reliability when the electrical system is garbage? It's harder to diagnose/fix and the end result is the same.


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