End of the road for the charger and challenger
 

All those "ICE cars will be around forever" folks take note. When Dodge cans two of their best selling vehicles in history it really means something!

Police will be down to driving Volts soon.

i was curious how dodge was going to handle the transition. still am. they worked themselves into a corner with the headline high-horsepower vehicles

Direct connection now has electric implications. I like evs but only as a choice. Again, Chrysler exists thanks to govt intervention so all the products that are less appealing to glacier huggers and storefront smashers must go.

Now they can create the "Electric musclecars" that are even heavier than these porkers!

Resistence is futile, because that's all you'll be able to buy. It's been a while since i've seen an upcoming ICE new model that is of much interest. The Dodge Hornet is about the closest....

GM has them covered with the Blazer EV...

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Oo...t-vehicle.webp

Will guarantee that there will be charging stations at all doughnut shops!

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If cops don't go in on Mustangs I'm going to be disappointed.

https://www.topgear.com/sites/defaul...Police_002.jpg

Also can guarantee that donut shop parking lots will be as backed up as their drive-throughs are now.

Dodge Charger Daytona SRT


"Back to the sound. This is the industry's first exhaust system for an electric vehicle, producing a similar 126-decibel sound as the one coming from the today's Hellcat engine. Dodge calls it "Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust." When the Daytona converts electricity to power, air flows through the exhaust system and the sound produced goes through an amplifier and tuning chamber at the rear of the vehicle. You can see and feel the pressure from the exhaust coming out the back."

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Maybe fake exhausts will catch on.

the cops around the midwest have almost entirely transitioned to tahoes and explorers. volts are unlikely for quite a while.

if you hadn't heard before, the michigan state troopers do comprehensive testing of pursuit vehicles. their testing is highly respected across the nation, and generally sets the tone for pursuit vehicle aquisitions for the rest of the year.

here's 2022, from what i can tell, one of the first years they've tested an ev:
https://www.michigan.gov/msp/-/media...A2DF0EB9D8F7F7

they tested the mach-e. it comes in at or near the bottom of almost every test except braking and mpg, with major point reductions in interior space/comfort. so it's somewhat unlikely that many departments will buy many for general use.

this is entirely false. first from an OEM maybe, but not the first EV exhaust.

https://www.hautopart.com/products/m...-sound-exhaust
https://www.fabspeed.com/fabspeed-te...xhaust-system/
https://www.millteksport.com/products/tesla.html

Wonder if there’s better sound or mechanism for them you know? I don’t want a v12 noise for my supercharged 4 cylinder.

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So you are saying teenagers that sell dope will still be doing donuts at 1am next to my house? Great.

This looks great. The Hornet and this are great looking designs. Much better than the outgoing models. I hope they can keep it looking similar when they make it.

I think they mean ‘first EV exhaust’ in that expelled air is producing sound through its own resonance and then goes through an amplifier, and air will be felt leaving the tailpipe. This is different than moving air by creating waves with speakers in the tailpipes. It’ll be more like the sound tube in the engine bay of the 86 over a speaker system. At least that’s what I got from the article.

Nice piece of wasted engineering. Sorry, but I don't want fake noise in an EV, or any car for that matter.

The they will be driving Volts was a joke but little did I know

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Just upload the sound from a laptop...

i'd make all my EV's sound like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_R_w3AB288

Pretty much any vehicle can be and is used as a police car. I see the one below (a smart) all the time. One of the local jurisdictions uses it when responding to or patrolling the Silver Comet Trail which passes within walking distance of my home.

https://www.thedrive.com/content/201...=70&width=1920

It is a gimmick for sure, but we know the market for the Charger and Challengers. Those people want loud. Then, other people will hear it and want it too. The car market will have to respond when shoppers go in to buy a car and ask the dealer why it doesn't have any noise.

I'll be most curious to see how it is designed on the inside and how it all comes together to be more than "just a speaker." From there, I'm guessing you could figure out how to make an EV sound like anything, even a 250 GTO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgD...l=Petrolicious

The 250GTO sounds great, but it produces it's own sounds (well with a little exhaust system tuning).

I don't know, it just feels a little like fake it to make it to me. No personal interest in an internal or external sound creator.

That said, I do get some folks would want this just like they want their cars tuned a certain way just to make noise, or fellow bikers that think their motorcycle needs to rattle windows "to be safe". Just not my style.

Not bad, I might go for like the dial up modem noises. Obviously progressively getting louder as acceleration increases.

They're encroaching on Harley Davidsons power into noise patents.
Here come da Judge, here come da Judge ...

I'll take one!

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Oh, not what you meant?

Why not just turn around and go back the way they came?

the interior looks pretty complete--i suspect it's pretty close to the final production spec. but that back half... it just looks like they ran out of room on the platform size and quick dropped the roof down to match up to the trunk.

That was pretty much what they did with the Challenger back in 2008.
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It has been suggested that we will get a 4 door and there may not be a coupe, so the roof is in the interest of head room and functionality. if there is a coupe it probably will be just the sedan but with longer doors, which is necessary due to the cost of developing the new platform.

The showcar is a two-door.

They can call it the Charger/Challenger 360 like the Xbox 360.

It is once said that if you are disattisfied with an Xbox360, the naming is because you use the xbox, then do a 360 and walk away.
The flaw with the name is that when you do a 360 you actually do a full rotation and end up going the same way you started.....

Right, but what I mean is the they designed 1 body shell that can be a 4-door or 2-door, so it looks a little funky as a 2-door because they needed more rear head room for the 4-door without having to re-engineer anything.

I guess I'm just used to that as it was pretty common not so long ago. Almost all cars came in 2-door and 4-door models with very little else different.

Dodge remembers:

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But those didn't just have longer doors. Completely different roof and belt lines and almost zero interchangeable body panels. They weren't as worried about reducing manufacturing complexity back then.

poor example, as this car was produced entirely separate in the mitsubishi factory using the underpinnings of the mitsubishi eclipse. really just sheet metal press and lighting differences.

OR:

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...-Magnum-17.jpg

I'll take a L... :lol:

The game was rigged! my grand father was a chrysler service manager, my uncle had one for a while, and i also owned an eclipse of the same model years, which led me to visit the local factory where they were all built. They had a really nice video presentation of the assembly process showing the eclipse, stratus 2dr, galant, and endeavor all being built on the same line. Was a fun time. Now rivian owns the plant.

Now the neon, I can't tell you anything about those other than they were cheap, and they prone to rusting to nothing very fast...

Great to see an automaker actually developing an EV with passion and enthusiasm. I think this new model (fingers crossed the production design is almost identical) looks fantastic.

The Charger/Challenger aren't exactly known for dynamic handling and they're a bit overweight. I don't see anything being lost in the switch to an EV platform; if anything those metrics will improve. Now the soul thumping engine sounds...I dunno.