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Evil Rocky 08-01-2022 12:31 PM

Burning oil
 
So I have a built engine (Outfront closed deck, stock CR) and turbo and noticed that I am burning a lot of oil. after driving to track and doing 5 20min sessions I burned almost all my oil except one quart.

One guy there said no big deal, built engines do that and other person said I should not of burned that much.

I also had some misfire and I stopped driving car and another person there said maybe me burning oil caused my misfire. I took car to shop that help build it and going to look at it, but has anyone had this issue? Anything I should worry about? Car is more track car then daily. I drove it 5 weeks recently everyday and assume burned very little oil, but nothing major.

blsfrs 08-01-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky (Post 3538535)
So I have a built engine (Outfront closed deck, stock CR) and turbo and noticed that I am burning a lot of oil. after driving to track and doing 5 20min sessions I burned almost all my oil except one quart.

One guy there said no big deal, built engines do that and other person said I should not of burned that much.

I also had some misfire and I stopped driving car and another person there said maybe me burning oil caused my misfire. I took car to shop that help build it and going to look at it, but has anyone had this issue? Anything I should worry about? Car is more track car then daily. I drove it 5 weeks recently everyday and assume burned very little oil, but nothing major.

Are you running AOS's. Also, with that kind of oil consumption you sholud see a lot of blue smoke.

Evil Rocky 08-01-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3538548)
Are you running AOS's. Also, with that kind of oil consumption you sholud see a lot of blue smoke.

I only see very little white smoke at first start up. I use 300V 5W30 for track days. I have radium oil catch cans.

humfrz 08-03-2022 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky (Post 3538535)
So I have a built engine (Outfront closed deck, stock CR) and turbo and noticed that I am burning a lot of oil. after driving to track and doing 5 20min sessions I burned almost all my oil except one quart.

One guy there said no big deal, built engines do that and other person said I should not of burned that much.

I also had some misfire and I stopped driving car and another person there said maybe me burning oil caused my misfire. I took car to shop that help build it and going to look at it, but has anyone had this issue? Anything I should worry about? Car is more track car then daily. I drove it 5 weeks recently everyday and assume burned very little oil, but nothing major.

First off, I reckon you're lucky that your car is still running, if you burnt off 5 out of 6 quarts - :eyebulge:

Even back in the day, a car couldn't burn that much oil.

I figure something else is wrong with your car. I suggest you take it back to whoever built the engine and have them install the oil rings this time.

OR figure out HOW that much oil is getting from the crankcase to the combustion chambers - :iono:

Tcoat 08-03-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky (Post 3538603)
I only see very little white smoke at first start up. I use 300V 5W30 for track days. I have radium oil catch cans.

If you burned through 5 quarts of oil in 5 20 minute sessions you should have been waved off the track for the massive cloud of blue smoke you were leaving behind.

What did you find in the catch cans?

NoHaveMSG 08-03-2022 01:31 PM

Time to do a leak down.

Sapphireho 08-03-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3539108)
If you burned through 5 quarts of oil in 5 20 minute sessions you should have been waved off the track for the massive cloud of blue smoke you were leaving behind.

What did you find in the catch cans?

Or the trail you were leaving.

Tcoat 08-03-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3539112)
Or the trail you were leaving.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/4JXOk...JauY/giphy.gif

Evil Rocky 08-03-2022 01:58 PM

Yeah, I have no smoke, I just have a light white smoke when turn on car if it goes completely cold.

I have it at shop and getting maintenance done. This only happens when at track. Since dont drive it much I never noticed before when I do take out on a weekend or something.

Sapphireho 08-03-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky (Post 3539125)
Yeah, I have no smoke, I just have a light white smoke when turn on car if it goes completely cold.

I have it at shop and getting maintenance done. This only happens when at track. Since dont drive it much I never noticed before when I do take out on a weekend or something.

No smoke, no leak. 1 qt every 20 minutes. This just doesn't add up.

Evil Rocky 08-05-2022 07:04 PM

So engine out and found some very tiny and light scratches on piston wall, the spark plug was completely black and i also asked my tuner and they think spark plug, bad injector was a cause and possibly that cylinder running lean and what caused it. Changed all spark plugs, coil packs and seems a little better

Debating on either swapping or putting an IAG engine in.

Car turns on, very tiny smoke coming out on full throttle, can barely even notice anything. But debating on either swapping or putting an IAG engine in now

humfrz 08-06-2022 04:12 PM

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No smoke, no leak. 1 qt every 20 minutes. This just doesn't add up.

Of course it does add up. Just look outside any tavern in Idaho - :D

PS - @Sapphireho - how are you feeling?

soundman98 08-06-2022 04:44 PM

but that much oil to leak past the rings and get used up in the 4-cycle rotation?!?!?

and you're burning 1qt in 20 minutes that way?

i've seen cars with a weepy head gasket that go through 1qt/4k miles-- those look like an entire marine platoon is attempting an emergency evac with every smoke bomb they've got. and you only had a little smoke on startup!?

still not adding up to me

humfrz 08-09-2022 03:48 AM

OK, where did the OP run off to - or maybe "slipped" of to?

:confused0068:

Tcoat 08-09-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3540313)
OK, where did the OP run off to - or maybe "slipped" of to?

:confused0068:

Asphyxiated

Evil Rocky 08-09-2022 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3540313)
OK, where did the OP run off to - or maybe "slipped" of to?

:confused0068:

Sorry, forgot to post here.

Just going to put in an IAG block in and get new injectors. car was running great before and was doing 396WHP and hoping to continue

soundman98 08-09-2022 09:49 PM

i'll take your old block

Evil Rocky 08-09-2022 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3540516)
i'll take your old block

It is out and let me know. I see you are in Chicago. It is a closed deck outfront stock CR. Message me if serious.

Also will be selling my turbo kit

soundman98 08-09-2022 10:18 PM

i am serious about picking it up. i was thinking you were still on the stock block--i really don't need any super fancy closed deck. i'm working on too many other projects, the best cost i can do is 'free, get it out of my shop!'. if you can get more/expect more for it elsewhere, have at it.

my 40-year plan for my car was just looking/waiting for a dirt cheap spare stock motor to come down in price enough for a toy to play with a teardown/rebuild that would maybe, possibly, go into the car at some point 50 years from now

humfrz 08-15-2022 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3540530)
i am serious about picking it up. i was thinking you were still on the stock block--i really don't need any super fancy closed deck. i'm working on too many other projects, the best cost i can do is 'free, get it out of my shop!'. if you can get more/expect more for it elsewhere, have at it.

my 40-year plan for my car was just looking/waiting for a dirt cheap spare stock motor to come down in price enough for a toy to play with a teardown/rebuild that would maybe, possibly, go into the car at some point 50 years from now

:slap: - snap out of it, there soundman98. 50 years from now they won't even let you start up an ICE - :eyebulge:

soundman98 08-15-2022 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3541516)
:slap: - snap out of it, there soundman98. 50 years from now they won't even let you start up an ICE - :eyebulge:

i bet it'll run on moonshine!

humfrz 08-16-2022 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3541731)
i bet it'll run on moonshine!

Yep.

https://youtu.be/o1CYKDoYCIM

:burnrubber:

gen3v8 08-16-2022 12:00 PM

I make moonshine 190 proof outa the still.


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