Schroth Rallye 3 Harnesses
 

I like the feel of a harness when racing. Being securely held to the seat lets me keep a lighter hand on the wheel, and lets me concentrate on racing instead of staying put.

The Schroth Rallye harnesses are a good light duty/AutoX/RallyX choice. They adhere to DOT regulations and can be put on really easily with one buckle. Installation is straightforward and relatively easy, using the stock belt locations and no welding.

I've used the Rally 4 harnesses on both my RallyX WRX and my STI. But for the BRZ, the lower belt hard points are too close to the front seats for good harness angles. So I went with the Rally 3. The rear mount will bolt to the bracket for the rear shoulder reels. The lap belts mount to the lower shoulder belt mount on the outside and the buckle on the seat on the inside.

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Removing the inner body pieces is outlined in this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...terior+removal Just stop after his step 2. The second picture in his Step 3 shows the upper bracket mount for the shoulder reel. That's the bolt I used for the rear harness mount. Then I just fed the strap through the same slot as the shoulder belt.

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The lap belt is a lot easier to install believe it or not. First, the seat has to be unbolted from the floor. It is held in by reverse torx bolts. An E10 socket is needed to loosen these. Once they're out, the seat can be moved forward to make the lower shoulder belt bolt more accessable. To get to the buckle mount, just tilt the seat partway out of the door and the nut is easy to get to on the side.

Now, these are "4-point" harnesses without a submarine belt, so they may not qualify for some forms of racing. But for smaller amateur motorsports, they are a great choice.

Nice! I wonder if Schroth will come out with a Quick-fit Rallye harness for the BRZ/FRS like they have for some other popular car models. I've got a Schroth Rallye Quick-fit harness in my Mini Cooper, and have had the universal Rallye 3 & 4 in my Neons about 10 years ago.

Subaru changed the buckles on the Impreza in 2007 and Schroth never updated the Quickfits. So I don't think we'll be seeing a quickfit for the BRZ/FRS.

Yeah, I wasn't very hopeful. Thankfully the standard universal fit Rallye harnesses work in most cars without too much difficulty on the installation process.

do you have pic to show how the lap belts are mounted?

thanks heaps.

Unfortunately, I don't. But if you follow the stock shoulder belt down to the frame rail, that's the bolt that the outer belt attaches to, just pull up the rubber cover.

If you slide your hand down the belt buckle on the inside you'll feel the nut holding it on, that's where the inside belt attaches.

This is not something I would feel safe in.

cool thanks. i think i know how to install this now.

I'm petty sure Schroth knows what they're doing. As it is, due to the lack of a submarine belt, this is for light street/AutoX duty only. Schroth has better 5 and 6 point belts for track duty.

Hey that's pretty cool! What'd you do about the seatbelt chime?

Pull the stock belt around behind the seat and put it in the buckle.

Are they designed to be mounted on the rear shoulder reels (with an angle)? It just doesn't look right.

^ wow that's crazy, but I'm glad that there is a solution out there. Now I want a set. lol

If you want a straighter connection, you could bolt it to the upper child-seat anchor on the rear deck. But my SCCA region wants the belts connected to the stock belt locations or to a dedicated harness bar.

I'm pretty sure Schroth knows what they're doing as well. The name on the label isn't why I wouldn't feel safe. You hit the nail on the head with the part in bold.

Looks like I'll be getting another set of Rallye 3's...nice. The stock seats are ok but really don't do what they should to keep you in the seats while on track (HPDE), so you end up using your legs and knees to keep from being tossed around in the corners.

I would feel safe rocking the Rallye 3's on track due to their ASM design on the inner strap (which gives and will unravel under crash loads to allow freedom of movement) and the FR-S has Subaru's halo ring B-pillar design. Definitely feel a lot better/safer in this car on track than the tin can, flimsy chassis RS Integra I ran before...

I'm not arguing, but I would like to point out that these belts have an anti-submarine mechanism that makes them about as safe as the OEM 3-points in that respect.

I don't see them in those pictures. How do they mount?

If you look at the picture showing the harness behind the seat you'll see a plastic piece on the shoulder belt. Inside that is an extra 4-5 inches of belt. In the event of a crash, the inside shoulder belt extends that extra distance, rotating the upper body similar to a how it would in a 3-point. This reduces the chance of submarining in the same manner. These belts meet DOT safety standards.

OK, I see that. Still would not sit in these on track but thanks for pointing out the functionality I overlooked. :thumbsup:

With installing these belts have you tried sitting anybody in the back seats? Or nobody is able to sit back there?

With the belts in place, noone can sit behind the seat. But in the strap that goes to the rear mount there's a buckle to disconnect it. So you just separate it and stow the front belts under the seat or to the side and you can use the rear seat normally.

Great!! Thanks for the answer lol that was my next question if it could be disconnected so somebody could sit back there.. They didn't have any other colors available? I think red would look great in the interior.

I got mine from SoloRacer.com. Right now they only have black available for the belts. However the pads are available in a number of different colors.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/soloracerdotcom_2221_72252359
They're also available with or without the patch, and there's a leather version as well.

Very nice pick up! They look great in the car and like you said, they are great for the weekend racer. Perfect for autocrossing and the occasional open track day. We had the Rallye 4's in our Evo IX and Evo X:burnrubber:

We carry Schroth as well!!:party0030:

How easy is it to use the normal belt for everyday use and then use the Rallye 3 for autox? I've been thinking of just getting a CG-Lock but I like the harnesses better.

He kind of already answered this. You can disconnect from the rear and stow them behind or under the seat. They will still be connected at the lower lap mounts and you can just slip them back into place and connect them to the rear mounts when ready to use again.

Yup, and the stock 3-points are unchanged. When you use the harness, just pull the stock belt behind the seat and plug it into the buckle. Otherwise, just use it normally.

did you get the 2" or the 3" pads?

The Rallye 3 and 4 use 2" belts, so the 2" pads. The ones in my pictures are black w/ Schroth patches.

website?

Post #29, soloracer.com

Do they say how big of a waist these things can fit? I'm a big fella and would need it to fit around the keg (because it sure as hell aint a six pack)

When I was at my heaviest, I was up to a 40 inch waist, and the Schroth harnesses I've had in several of my cars still fit me with room to spare.

I'm quite a bit bigger than a 40 inch waist unforunately. I'll have to get in touch with Schroth I guess.

Can someone get me one of these to Sydney ??? cant find it in OZ

FWIW, these are 4-points, but they have Schroth's patented Anit-SubMArine (ASM) device. So they are the only type of four-point that is safe. Without that a four-point is MUCH less safe than a three-point.

Ugh still need to install mine. Just need to find the time.

@Surok : Have you tried one of the US vendors? I'm sure they would be willing to ship to Aus unless there is some weird law against it...

Soloperformance.com or soloracer.com is where I would look to.

whenevr i ring soloracer they have gone home haha ill send an email.