Anyone with a 23' order heard their car is built?
 

My order for a 23' BRZ was placed April 7th. I got a call from my dealer last week saying the car is built and he told me to expect it in the next 8-9 weeks.

Meanwhile, I’m waiting for my 22 to be built for a June 2022 delivery date. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This. I am also from Ontario.

You're almost there though! :happyanim: Probably will be one of the last ones as well.

I ordered my 2023 on April 19th. Just talked to my dealer about 2 weeks ago and my estimated delivery date moved up from November to August. No word on VIN yet, he told me it’s about a month out when he gets the VIN.

That's great news

That's my hope! I think it would be kind of cool to have one of the last ones to roll off the line.

Thats really awesome to hear. Ordered May 5th and have been waiting to hear news on 23's getting built!

Placed a deposit a few days ago; they told me november....
No updates on when it's being built

Ordered mine on April 26th and don't have an ETA yet. Hoping that this changes soon, doesn't seem like my dealer has a whole lot of information available to them.

2023 MY cars arriving earlier than expected? Are these cars just an extension of the 2022 MY production line? In the first quarter of 2017 I ordered a new motor home. It was built on a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis manufactured in the last quarter of 2016 and when it was finally completed, it apparently missed the allocation numbers for the 2017 model year, so it was designated as a 2018 model year RV even though it was 100% outfitted using the 2017 catalog. A 3% price hike was added to the base price of the RV, but not to the add-on features. I could not complain as the 2018 catalog was gutted as to trim costs at the factory. Anyway, regardless of what year is on the VIN, anyone would be pleased to get the car at all, let alone earlier than expected. More important than the model year date is the date when the car rolled off the line. My 2019 Subaru Ascent has an 08/2019 vintage, so it is among the cars that have had numerous recalls and a transmission that could potentially frag itself into oblivion.

I put in an order for a '23 a week or so ago and their quoted timeframe was "3-5 months, but up to 12" which is pretty damn broad

Sounds like they’re not sure when ordering will open back it up (if it is closed) same thing happened to me last November. I’d keep asking questions constantly to make sure it is actually ordered. Even try multiple dealerships. Don’t get screwed like I did.

the way i understand it is that they take orders during the month but they dont actually submit them until the first week of the next month. unclear if this policy is the dealership's idea or if its the way the information is flowed in a broad sense

consider that there are 2022 orders that are still not fulfilled and are arriving as late as early August

if you ordered now, expect it at the end of the year if production goes as planned. The reason they give a broad range is because they dont know if Subaru will run into production issues like many other manufacturers have recently

This is the same time range you will get if you order pretty much any model of any make right now. If it isn't sitting on a lot already the 2 months to a year is pretty standard.

So very true. I wonder what the current environment does to the traditional approach to model year production dates.

With the backlog of MY22 models still undelivered, do they continue to build those out until all orders are fulfilled which blows their internally established cut over dates, or do they stick to the production dates and roll all the unfulfilled MY22 orders over to MY23?

They won't care about the "undelivered" vehicles and will just roll orders into the next model years.

The industry is a little different than others and sometimes can be hard to understand the way it works.

The Tier 1 suppliers (that send the final product directly to the OEMs) generally work on a three or four year contract system. The are contracted to make X amount of parts for each model year. This is actually why you usually see a refresh or other bigger changes after 3 or 4 years. This plan is set up as much as two years before production is scheduled.

If the OEM wants more parts within that contracted period they can up the order but it costs them a small fortune as the unit price was set for that original X number. If they cut back orders then normally they still pay for parts that they cancelled as again the price was set for X amount. This means under normal conditions they are going to stick as close to that X number as possible and neither make more nor less than plan.

The parts manufactures for automotive work almost exclusively on the Just In Time system. There are no big warehouses full of ready to go parts but instead they are all made and shipped to literally arrive at the plants "just in time". This system can work well for flexibility but also cause total chaos both at the same time depending on where the parts are in the pipeline when the order is increased or decreased.

Now... I said that under normal conditions the OEMs have to pay for cancelled parts whether they are used or not but there is one standard clause in the contracts that rarely comes into play. That clause is that the OEMs can cancel parts orders without penalty or payment in the event of an uncontrol able disaster or interruption. So if a vehicle just isn't selling they are going to pay for all the parts whether they stop making it or not (looking at you Aztec) but if there is some reason beyond their control they can reduce orders without cost. Of course this clause has come into effect many, many, many times over the last two years. Since they are not paying to not make cars they will adjust the numbers for each model year to meet what they can build not to what they have orders for or even what the original plan said they would build.

The thing that is apparently coming out of this current situation is that most of the car companies are looking at a customer preorder build system even when all this shit clears up so ordering a car and waiting months to get it is the likely wave of the future.

Ordered April 26th. Got a message from the dealer last week that it was expected in August, but still no VIN.

So I'm skeptical the car will be built, get on a ship, make it across the ocean, get the port installed short shifter, and make it to the middle of the country in two months.

That does seem a bit optimistic.
Took Subaru a month to ship my wife's new car the 6 hour trip from Indiana to Ontario!

I mean, I'd love for it to be true. But I just don't see it. Unless it's already headed for the ship in Japan and they just haven't relayed the VIN yet.

But that's OK with me. I've already ordered all my suspension stuff. So now just saving up for a partial PPF and ceramic coat and the tag/tax/title. Which I'll have at the end of the month with my bonus.

Ordered mine on the same day! Still have heard nothing from my dealership. I don't think they have any information either, unfortunately. Just reached back out to my dealer to inquire about more information. I'm surprised that I don't even have an ETA yet. I was originally told 3-4 months which I do not anticipate-- I'm thinking more like 6-8 months.

Yeah, I'm not sure if that's some dealers are/aren't getting info. Some are too lazy to relay it. No idea.

When I went in, I thought the same thing. They are going to give me an Oct/Nov Delivery date. Which I still wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, so you can imagine my surprise when they gave me the August/Sept timeline.

The fiance and I have been sharing a car for the last year and a half (since we both work from home), so the wait isn't a big deal. Although she has a third interview coming today with a big company based here in OKC, which if she gets it, means she will be back in an office full-time.

Which will leave me without a car during the day until the BRZ gets here. The only case in which it would be a big deal is a pet emergency.

Just a little update. I have now receieved my VIN for my 2023 order. Still same estimated time period. Hopefully another 6-8 weeks!

Nice! That means you should be able to download the MySubaru app, register and follow it's progress now, right?

Unfortunately not in Canada, it requires you to have proof of ownership to create an account which I obviously don't have yet. I'm pretty sure you can only track it on Subaru of America website unless I'm mistaken.

Called my dealer yesterday after asking them to reach out to SoA. All I got was no VON or ETA yet, however it's confirmed that my car will be the second BRZ allocated to my dealer. Irks me because my order was their first... but I understand that production doesn't always work that way, especially in the manufacturing plant that I work at.

The wait continues. Hopefully not for too much longer!

I got the vin number too, I ordered it back on nov last year. I am from Ontario too

Congrats! Can't wait to get my VIN confirmation E-mail. Hopefully in the next month or 2 (initial ETA estimate was August).

Got an update today on my 23'. Ordered May 5th, original estimate was October/November. Updated delivery is now August with a VIN expected anyday. He said this is due to the color I ordered, MGM. All the MGM orders were moved up. Bad news is he's seen red orders get pushed back to November if they weren't already. Sorrry if thats bad news to anyone, just passing along what I heard.

Nice! Hopefully that will mean good news for a lot of us who placed orders in April. Interesting regarding delays for Ignition Red... wonder if all that red paint went to GR86 allocations.

They may be only running certain colors through production at certain times. I've heard about other auto makers doing this. They have a production schedule for cars not painted in the default white/black/gray/silver which make up the bulk of production. The last example I saw it was certain weeks of the month, not certain months though.

With firm '23 orders with VIN's now coming out, what is happening to the folks still waiting on '22s? Just curious.

That's what I've been trying to figure out, seems like there are quite a few who are yet to take delivery of their 22's.

Got my VIN last Thursday!
 

With a surprise I got my VIN last week , I put a deposit at the end of april and my expected delivery date was the end of August. I ordered my car in Montreal at Subaru Metropolitan (Previously known as John Scotti Subaru). Pretty sure my delivery date will be earlier as they expected. I ordered a Rally Blue BRZ Sport Tech. Definitely my dream car. Hope y'all will have their car soon as well.

Awesome, congrats! Hoping I'll see my VIN E-mailed soon.

That's a bummer if true. I ordered a red, Limited in April.

Thankfully, I don't need a car. But was looking forward to it. My custom FA500s showed up yesterday, was hoping the car wouldn't be too far behind.

Nah, they would have the same paint configs available in the factory at same time I'd expect. There was a sort of burst of red 86 allocations in early to mid June and then by late June there were zero new red allocations across the country. And those were the first of the cars that would come in August on average, though still 2022's. This gap might relate to that Nov est.

So far, the only 2023 allocation I've seen out there on dealer sites was red though! (Unfortunately the god-like spreadsheet we were using to track 86 allocations got kyboshed by Toyota.) Anyhow I'd guess there will be some red 23 BRZs come before Nov, and that's another conservative estimate thing.

I received another message from my dealer today that my '23 Limited, Ignition Red is still expected to be here next month.

I'll let you all know if actually shows up in the next 6 weeks.

This. Mine has already been on the ship for a few weeks so I’m hoping to hear some good news very soon

I ordered a '22 on Jan 6th, and it never came! :mad0260:
I spoke to my salesman last week. He said that they turned it into a '23, and their computer showed an estimated date of Jan 2023!!(not sure if it was production or delivery)
Needless to say, I'm very shocked that I have to wait 1 year (if it even comes by then), for a SUBARU! WTF