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Rainy 04-26-2022 05:30 PM

JDM Spec BRZ crash test result - 2 Stars 88.38 / 190
 
basically, it has a relatively high mark for Collision safety, but due to no eyesight on MT, it got basically 0 mark on Preventive measure for Collision. so the overall mark is low.

JNCAP site
https://www.nasva.go.jp/mamoru/asses...#result_list01
English translated result in PDF
https://www.nasva.go.jp/mamoru/pdf/sv/detail/240.pdf

Ohio Enthusiast 04-26-2022 05:36 PM

Cue in the clickbaits claiming the car is a death trap...
I can understand the benefit of a single rating, but there's a huge difference between a car with low rating because of poor passive safety and some active safety tacked on to pass the bar vs. a car with good passive safety and no active safety equipment.
I think the public would be better served with two ratings - one for passive safety (crash protection) and one for active safety (crash prevention).

AK2112 04-26-2022 05:46 PM

Good to know it can take a hit. I'd expect nothing less from Subaru.

Decep 04-26-2022 05:59 PM

Wow. Stupidly weighted test.

Yoshoobaroo 04-26-2022 08:55 PM

They knew the car would get crucified on safety for not having standard active safety features due to the manual. And they made it anyway.

Vincent.B 04-27-2022 05:55 AM

I have no issue with the rating. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can look past the score and read the reports (which is really worthwhile).
Given the state of driving ability where I live, I'm happy for the general public to be pushed towards lane keep assist, AEB, and radar cruise control.

x808drifter 04-27-2022 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent.B (Post 3519428)
I have no issue with the rating. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can look past the score and read the reports (which is really worthwhile).
Given the state of driving ability where I live, I'm happy for the general public to be pushed towards lane keep assist, AEB, and radar cruise control.

Problem is a majority of people have 1 or less.
Case in point: The need for Crash prevention tech like lane assist.

Jegan_V 04-27-2022 11:47 PM

Looks like I predicted the NCAP results correctly:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...39#post3502239

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3519356)
Wow. Stupidly weighted test.

NCAP results have been weighted like this for years at this point. The bad of the NCAP system however is their star system will not take into consideration cars that crash tested long before their new standards, so lets just say Subaru sold the old BRZ and the new one at the same time...the old one was tested in 2012 and was a 5 star rated car...it will keep its 5 star rating until the end of time. The new one however is tested with 2022's standards which are radically different, hence its 2 star rating. If you look at the actual crash testing performance, it did very good even with updated crash testing methods. However because the MT has basically zero automated driving aids, it massively fails that section of the test.

There lies the problem, someone who knows very little about the nuances between 2012's test and 2022's, doesn't actually look at the report itself and just looks at the star rating is going to conclude very wrongly that the new BRZ is much less safe than the old one. What a world of difference after all, 5/5 vs 2/5, one is perfect and the other a total fail.

clio 05-01-2022 07:55 PM

After using Subaru's Eyesight in a loan car I'd pay money not to have it fitted

Yoshoobaroo 05-01-2022 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clio (Post 3520236)
After using Subaru's Eyesight in a loan car I'd pay money not to have it fitted


It’s fantastic for normal people imo, but not for enthusiasts.

CincyJohn 05-02-2022 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3520240)
It’s fantastic for normal people imo, but not for enthusiasts.

But you can turn it off, right?

dragoontwo 05-02-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyJohn (Post 3520333)
But you can turn it off, right?

You can on other eyesight cars, so should be able to.

Ohio Enthusiast 05-02-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3520240)
It’s fantastic for normal people imo, but not for enthusiasts.

I never understood that reasoning. Although I don't have active safety systems on my BRZ (being a 2018 and a manual), I do have them on my 2019 Odyssey. I can't imagine a situation where spirted driving would cause any of the active safety systems to engage.

Yoshoobaroo 05-02-2022 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3520346)
I never understood that reasoning. Although I don't have active safety systems on my BRZ (being a 2018 and a manual), I do have them on my 2019 Odyssey. I can't imagine a situation where spirted driving would cause any of the active safety systems to engage.

Subaru's system is very aggressive when it comes to lane keeping assist. it will bump you to the outside for coming within a few inches of the inside line of a corner.

Desertnate 05-02-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3520397)
Subaru's system is very aggressive when it comes to lane keeping assist. it will bump you to the outside for coming within a few inches of the inside line of a corner.

This is what drives me nuts with these features.

I haven't driven Subaru's version, but a similar system in the X5 is just as bad. On a test drive I went around a clover-leaf on ramp like I was drunk. The lane was narrow which meant even staying as close to the center of the lane as possible had the car bumping me side to side all the way around. I fought it constantly. It was really fun when I tried to avoid a pothole in the road and the lane keeping shoved my right into the middle of it.

The dealership salesman's comment was something like, "Yeah, it really sucks. We just tell people to shut if off. It keeps them from constantly coming back and trying to get the Service Deparment to fix it."

RToyo86 05-02-2022 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clio (Post 3520236)
After using Subaru's Eyesight in a loan car I'd pay money not to have it fitted

With their new touch screen infotainment/climate control setup you need eyesight to keep you on the road :lol:

CincyJohn 05-02-2022 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desertnate (Post 3520422)
This is what drives me nuts with these features.

I haven't driven Subaru's version, but a similar system in the X5 is just as bad. On a test drive I went around a clover-leaf on ramp like I was drunk. The lane was narrow which meant even staying as close to the center of the lane as possible had the car bumping me side to side all the way around. I fought it constantly. It was really fun when I tried to avoid a pothole in the road and the lane keeping shoved my right into the middle of it.

The dealership salesman's comment was something like, "Yeah, it really sucks. We just tell people to shut if off. It keeps them from constantly coming back and trying to get the Service Deparment to fix it."

I'll take any feature that you can readily/easily shut off or adjust. Now I wish the ASC in our cars was controllable, but it took me 10 seconds to unplug.

Jianlun 05-03-2022 01:47 PM

https://youtu.be/8xai_CkWBhs

Sasquachulator 05-03-2022 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3520240)
It’s fantastic for moron drivers, but not neccessary for drivers who actually drive and pay attention to the road.


fixed your post :D

Jegan_V 05-03-2022 07:03 PM

I'm actually surprised it got a top safety pick+ even for the automatic, I genuinely thought the crash prevention sections would've marked it down because the BRZ/GR86 uses the most basic Eyesight system. The rest of the testing though, its nice to see it perform extremely well when taking a hit, it definitely did better than the old car. I am curious how it will fare on the new side impact test, which was updated and harder since the speed was raised and the weight was increased to simulated SUV or pickup truck impact. Seems our car is the lightest of the ones that got IIHS's top awards.

LRNAD90 05-17-2022 12:03 PM

Link to complete IIHS test..

Seems odd that they list it as a hatchback (since well, its not)??

But it got top ratings in all categories..

And despite being built on the same platform, made a number of improvements over the 1st gen, especially in the small overlap testing..

Also appears the Head Curtain Airbag is larger, and covers more completely the front section of the window..

It is still a small car, in what has increasingly become a big car world, but as safe as they get for the class it seems.. :thumbsup:

Ultramaroon 05-17-2022 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3519483)
Problem is a majority of people have 1 or less.
Case in point: The need for Crash prevention tech like lane assist.

+1


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