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hybrid4g 08-17-2012 12:47 PM

Getting Cheaper?
 
Think its a typo?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/ncal.j...cal_id=8551367

blackfireball5 08-17-2012 12:49 PM

Interesting. If it really is that price i wonder why? Maybe that dealership is having trouble selling their AT's?

RRnold 08-17-2012 12:54 PM

The VIN is there so it could be legit. That's one hell of a deal for those in VA.

blackfireball5 08-17-2012 01:01 PM

http://www.lustinetoyota.com/new/Sci...05b6383882.htm

http://www.lustinetoyota.com/new/Sci...3f82d9a2d3.htm


Looks like they dropped their prices by 2 grand. nice.

CrazyWookiee 08-17-2012 01:03 PM

Wow, good deal on those. Are they just hard sellers in Virginia?

karma003 08-17-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 385924)
Well, like half this forum seems to understand, and the other half doesn't... This isn't a limited production car.. It had a ton of pre-orders and once everyone gets one that wanted one, your not going to see 2-5k markups like most Subaru dealers are doing.

Sorry, but I used to work for a Toyota dealership as a tech, & from what I know, scions CAN'T be marked up. They have some kinda thing that says everyone pays the same amount. No more & no less. I'm guessing they're either used, have hail damage, or who knows. Maybe a typo

MVJ1975 08-17-2012 01:08 PM

Strange. That's my dealer. I'll have to stop by and see what the deal is.

MY13FRS 08-17-2012 01:12 PM

I would be wary of buying this car with all the problems people are listing here on this site.

blackfireball5 08-17-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVJ1975 (Post 385960)
Strange. That's my dealer. I'll have to stop by and see what the deal is.

Please do! Let us know!

RRnold 08-17-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVJ1975 (Post 385960)
Strange. That's my dealer. I'll have to stop by and see what the deal is.

Bring your car back and ask them to pro-rate it! :bellyroll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY13FRS (Post 385970)
I would be wary of buying this car with all the problems people are listing here on this site.

That's why my ass is waiting! I have buddies that own Subies so it's not like I'm being bias against Subaru. They just lack the extra quality that Toyota has and when the videos of the Subaru execs claiming full responsibility of the 86/BRZ production, now it's starting to show. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

jadewbj 08-17-2012 01:51 PM

Either that or they are listing it not including the dealer fees. Some of the Autotrader ads say that the price does not include dealer fees. There is a destination charge and dealer charge, could come out to close to the 2 grand.

Pure price just means they need to sell cars for what they are advertised for, no more, not no less.

jadewbj 08-17-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 385924)
Well, like half this forum seems to understand, and the other half doesn't... This isn't a limited production car.. It had a ton of pre-orders and once everyone gets one that wanted one, your not going to see 2-5k markups like most Subaru dealers are doing.

The issue is this is below MSRP.

Nevermore 08-17-2012 01:58 PM

I'm going to be disappointed if those are actual sales prices because they're even cheaper than my special order, and the thing I used is basically an employee program. That's a pretty crazy dip in price.

kanundrum 08-17-2012 01:59 PM

This dealership is right down the street from my (well 45 min ) but I am betting they add on a lot of fees installed extas etc.

Tanuki 08-17-2012 02:00 PM

They are limited production, but not limited edition.

FBaxteR-S 08-17-2012 02:01 PM

I wouldn't get so worked up, 99.9% chance that they add hidden fees and bring it back to where it should be.

This is an advertising gimmick, /thread.

DantKR 08-17-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 386002)
Bring your car back and ask them to pro-rate it! :bellyroll:



That's why my ass is waiting! I have buddies that own Subies so it's not like I'm being bias against Subaru. They just lack the extra quality that Toyota has and when the videos of the Subaru execs claiming full responsibility of the 86/BRZ production, now it's starting to show. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Toyota quality lol.

Foobar 08-17-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 385924)
Well, like half this forum seems to understand, and the other half doesn't... This isn't a limited production car.. It had a ton of pre-orders and once everyone gets one that wanted one, your not going to see 2-5k markups like most Subaru dealers are doing.

In my experience, most Subaru dealers are selling at MSRP. In my area, there were two dealers selling for over MSRP (one on Long Island, and one in Connecticut). I don't believe either are doing that practice anymore.

That said, I agree that we'll be seeing the car sell at less than MSRP if Subaru increases their production run for 2014 (or maybe they revise their strategy and decide to increase the 2013 run). It'll be particularly harder to sell this car when winter hits.

jadewbj 08-17-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBaxteR-S (Post 386090)
I wouldn't get so worked up, 99.9% chance that they add hidden fees and bring it back to where it should be.

This is an advertising gimmick, /thread.

Problem is this is exactly what pure pricing stops. They are obligated to sell it at the advertised price.

MVJ1975 08-17-2012 02:13 PM

I've never known Lustine to pull that sort of BS either. My car was sold to me at MSRP, plus destination and dealer fee. No added options I didn't want, and no "market adjustment" crap.

I've bought two cars from them (tC and FR-S), and my GF bought her xB2 there... they've always been great to deal with.

Tanuki 08-17-2012 02:18 PM

It is called a bait and switch and is illegal. There is a reason they have that one at that price, demo or who knows? But for them to post that price then tell you the sale price is higher, would be illegal. If there are additional fees, that is different, but I don't know where they will find 2k extra fees.

00NissanNinja 08-17-2012 02:26 PM

Wow that is cheap. Back when I was looking for a scion xd my dealer told me that they can sell their cars for under msrp but every single car on their lot must have the exact same discount (and they did do this in the future with the tc). So they might not be trying to f people over.

RRnold 08-17-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 386096)
Toyota quality lol.

I know it's seems to good to be true but there was a point in time when Toyota oozed quality and made some bulletproof cars. It's still a lot better than Subaru.

http://autos.jdpower.com/content/pre...lity-study.htm

epitaph 08-17-2012 03:16 PM

I would be skeptical. However, if this was a price I could get at my local dealer (and tack on a $1000 college grad rebate), I would probably have to stop holding out and grab one.

Here's a listing on their site: http://www.lustinescion.com/new/Scio...seHistory=true

As previously mentioned, maybe they were demo cars?

I see a few other cars priced below MSRP as well: http://tinyurl.com/8r7oz4h

So it's possible. I'll be interested to hear how this turns out.

hybrid4g 08-17-2012 03:24 PM

At the other end of the spectrum we have the mighty 36K Subaru BRZ :eyebulge::confused0068::clap::eyebulge:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...27812141&Log=0

howsTricks 08-17-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hybrid4g (Post 386229)
At the other end of the spectrum we have the mighty 36K Subaru BRZ :eyebulge::confused0068::clap::eyebulge:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...27812141&Log=0

How did I know this would be in Washington?

DantKR 08-17-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 386176)
I know it's seems to good to be true but there was a point in time when Toyota oozed quality and made some bulletproof cars. It's still a lot better than Subaru.

http://autos.jdpower.com/content/pre...lity-study.htm

My Legacy was about as bullet proof as it got. My mother had a 2005(6 or 7 don't remember at this point) Toyota Corolla that crapped out on her after 36k miles. Interior fell apart, engine ran like crap. Toyota and Honda in the late 80's and early 90's used to build cars that lasted 500k miles with only oil changes. But then again, so did Subaru. Now, most automakers are all on par for quality in the sub 40's range.

tnt 08-17-2012 03:38 PM

got mine at MSRP but of course after adding options, it adds up

DantKR 08-17-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hybrid4g (Post 386229)
At the other end of the spectrum we have the mighty 36K Subaru BRZ :eyebulge::confused0068::clap::eyebulge:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...27812141&Log=0

How about a 34k FRS :eyebulge::confused0068::clap::eyebulge:

3 of them to boot

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

Different dealer: 34k

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

ruskymx 08-17-2012 04:30 PM

Here's the fine print form their website: " All price and payments are estimated excluding Tax, Tags, Freight, and Porcess fee of $399.00."

Add in the $755 freight.

Just confirmed that the Ultramarine shows in Dealer Daily that it's on the ground. MSRP is $24,955 so they are showing $2k off of that. I would bet College grad is included in their price as well. $22,955 is UNDER invoice before freight! Scions don't have holdback or financial reserve either.

Something's fishy here.....

Someone mystery shop them....

Hmm....seems to be a violation of Pure Price right here. Look at the price they have listed for FRS's on their website. I wonder if the Price Menus in their showroom show the same amount? Probably because most dealerships print out their website menu's and post them in the showroom

http://www.lustinescion.com/new-inventory/pricing.htm

whtchocla7e 08-17-2012 04:55 PM

Listings already removed. These people knew what they were doing...

RRnold 08-17-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 386251)
My Legacy was about as bullet proof as it got. My mother had a 2005(6 or 7 don't remember at this point) Toyota Corolla that crapped out on her after 36k miles. Interior fell apart, engine ran like crap. Toyota and Honda in the late 80's and early 90's used to build cars that lasted 500k miles with only oil changes. But then again, so did Subaru. Now, most automakers are all on par for quality in the sub 40's range.

A Corolla that crapped out is a corner case. You can put sand in the gas tank and it'll still run! :D

To each has their own and my buddy still has his bug eye'd STI and didn't have any major issues, just really faded seats. :lol:

Snozzberries 08-17-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 386080)
The issue is this is below MSRP.

Not just that, that is the dealer invoice price of the car!

Turbowned 08-17-2012 05:11 PM

"This car is no longer for sale"

Something must've happened!

norm24 08-17-2012 05:21 PM

^ it got sold?:D

tripjammer 08-18-2012 01:51 AM

It could be a typo but there are 3 FR-S is stock, two blue ones at $22995 and one silver automatic at $24055

http://www.lustinescion.com/new-inve...ventoryListing

sho220 08-18-2012 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY13FRS (Post 385970)
I would be wary of buying this car with all the problems people are listing here on this site.

OMG! The sky is falling!!!!

ngabdala 08-18-2012 08:35 AM

Bait and hook. It's gone. It was either an error , or they realized they wouldn't stand a chance in a civil lawsuit after being accused of that illegal sales tactic.

Xanatos 08-18-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 387371)
Bait and hook. It's gone. It was either an error , or they realized they wouldn't stand a chance in a civil lawsuit after being accused of that illegal sales tactic.

I believe it was on there purely by mistake. Why would they price a car under its own invoice? The dealership would lose money on the sell AND if they used that to bring in more customers they would keep losing on every sell. Thats not sales thats being dumb.


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