GR 86: Orders /Reservation /Waitlist Chat
 

In about a week or two we should start seeing orders, reservations, and waitlists gaining some traction as dealers receive their available allocations for the first deliveries of the 2022 GR 86 in December.

Wanted to get the party started by saying I’ve successfully placed a deposit for a White Premium GR 86 but I’ve been beat by 2 others at the dealership, but only because it’s the lowest price I’ve found. So the timing is indefinite but I’m also reaching out to multiple dealers.

What I’ve experienced is that Subaru dealers (at least here in NorCal) effortlessly offered MSRP (some under) for a Subaru sold order, but I’ve had the hardest time finding a Toyota dealer willing to agree to MSRP.

When did you place that deposit? I placed mine August 25th in SoCal and there were already 16 other people ahead of me. #17 on the waitlist now.

I'm also set my preference for a white premium manual. I'm thinking there's going to be a lot in that specification

Yesterday haha. I’m in the Bay Area, and the salesperson told me he was surprised there weren’t as many deposits as he thought.

I’m pretty sure most people in the Bay Area gravitated toward the BRZ first. A lot of stores have BRZ orders pushed back until March.

You did better than me, I'm also in the Bay Area, emailed every single dealer within 50 miles, only like 2 or 3 were taking deposits, and two at MSRP. I wound up being like #7 or something, and this was a week ago.

The rest of the dealers either weren't taking deposits until they knew their allocation, or just put me on a list without a deposit, of which I am #1 on one.

Seeing what's happening with the BRZ, I give it a few months after cars start arriving at dealers and we should be able to shop these physically.

Turns out, I'm not in that big of a rush anyway since I won't be able to drive a stick car until Jan, more likely Feb anyway (shoulder surgery), so my sense of urgency has diminished. Perfectly happy waiting for the one dealer who was actually nice to deal with to get my eventual car in.

I'd say that a year from today, discounts will become normal if the previous gen is of any indication.

Which dealers do you have your name down at? I placed deposits at the beginning of October at 2 bay area dealers and am #4 (#1 for base) and #8 or 9 at two dealers who will sell at MSRP. Really hoping to get in on the first wave of cars to hit. I'm gunning for a Neptune base model, but seems like it maybe hard to come across.

I got a deposit down at Walnut Creek.

It looks like I’m the order right after you haha! I guess that makes me 4th.

FWIW thread, the sales guy said the more you are open to colors, the quicker you will get some sort of allocation for one. :party0030:

Seems like we are all In line at the same place haha have any off you guys heard from the salesman of actual allocations for the dealer? I’m hoping it’s released soon

So are only West coast dealers taking orders currently? I live in the Mid-West and dealerships around don't have much information on it as of yet they say.

Do you guys understand that not a single one of you officially has an actual reservation?

I spoke to a sales manager at Toyota yesterday and asked if they were taking deposits. He said that there is still no official system released for them (or any Toyota dealership) to take deposits on the 86. I told him about you guys and how there are people I know who have placed deposits at other dealerships. He laughed, and told me that it’s a dirty tactic that some dealers are taking. They tell you you’re reserving the car, but in reality are pretty much just taking your money unofficially and holding it, which ensures that you will, not only buy that car, but buy it from that dealership specifically. It is 100% unofficial.

He once again reiterated to me - there is currently NO portal in their system designed to take deposits on this vehicle. Like, if he was given money for a deposit, he wouldn’t even know what to do with it in the computer. You guys are not being entered into anything.

This explains why certain dealerships take deposits and others don’t. It’s also the reason why it’s never the same amount between two dealerships lmao. You guys really couldn’t see this a mile away?

Now stop talking about pre-orders until Toyota actually opens it up on their website. There’s no way around this.

Oh look, the sun rose today, I will die some day, and in April taxes are due.

You do understand that these deposits are refundable right?

So your buddy at the dealer, how do they plan to sell their allocation then? Just get them in, put them on their lot, and then sell to foot traffic? Or do the sales people have unofficial waitlists, and call around to see who wants it and then create a you need to buy this right now? How does one then fall into those good graces to get priority notice?

Toyota dealers around here for highly sought after models, in the high volume areas, have a reputation of getting as much as they can (as they should, they are running a business afterall), or at least making you go through a gauntlet of dealer bs to get the deal, a deal that could be had at a number of other dealers if they only had it in stock... which they sold to those who had deposits.

My inlaws for instance want to buy a CRV right now (of all times), and right now in the area MSRP is a really good deal as 2k markups is absolutely the norm. The dealers who sell at MSRP are out of stock, and require a deposit on their allocations.

But absolutely, I can wait, and see how the market unfolds, and then jump on a deal that pops up. Guess what, I can still do that, because my deposit is... refundable! But if nothing pops up, or the market gets a bit nuts, and then people start calling around to get their spot in line, at least I got my placeholder.

Toyota dealerships in USA/Canada have been able to input "Sold Order Requests" since August 16th 2021. Source: me, I submitted my own order that day

Actually, if the dealership is organized then they can indeed take deposits for the build slot that is allocated, rather than a physical car.

The way it works is that when allocations open up the available model codes and color codes will show up to the dealer on the Toyota dealer portal (I think it’s still called Dealer Daily).

Sometimes if the model code and color are filled/unavailable from factory already then the dealer wont be able to choose it.

So what an organized dealer would is collect refundable deposits on trim, transmission, and color. So if the first deposit is for a Red, Premium, Manual and they have an open/ available build slot for any combination then the first deposit gets their car in that allocation, all the dealer has do to is preference that configuration.

But for some reason if red, Premium, Manual is not available that person gets skipped until next allocation. They still have the deposit and they still have 1st place in line once red becomes available in future allocations, which can be indefinite.

This is why some dealers who 100% aware and organized will suggest you to have more than one color choice or at least warn you that having only one configuration can mean you’ll be waiting indefinitely.

To sum it up, the deposit is not for a physical car and I’m sure most of us are aware. The deposit we place is for the build & preference slot once that’s allocated to the dealership.

I mean, if it gets the person the car in a timely manner and they aren't going to be over-charged for it (like a huge markup over MSRP), then what's the difference? 200 bucks? That's barely a payment (depending on your financing) and should be easy enough to be without if you're financially-capable enough of buying the car.

I did the same shit at a Subaru dealer in fall 2016 for a 2017 BRZ with PP before those were being sold and it worked out just fine.

Placed a $500 for Premium Manual GR 86 in Neptune Blue at "MSRP minus one dollar" :D

I did the same but Neptune manual base, I may switch over to premium…

I have a feeling Neptune will be hard to come by.

Congrats, judging by those words I’m pretty sure I know where it’s placed :thumbup:

Got my deposit in two days ago for Manual Premium Neptune from Walnut Creek. 3 ahead of me in line for that specification. Very excited

Walnut Creek is really going to need to get a ton of Neptunes in to feed the demand...I'm 4th overall on their list. Hopefully first in line for a Neptune (base or premium, maybe)

Fun fact Price Simms the owner of Walnut Creek Toyota also owns Sunnyvale Toyota and Marin Toyota. Sunnyvale has a living list but I called Marin and apparently they do not yet.

Price Simms has the motto Simple Process Simple Price so these are 3 of the MSRP-only Toyota dealers.

Another fun fact I have a deposit with the Lotus Dealership that Price Simms owns for a Lotus Emira. Can no longer buy the Emira but they agreed to MSRP right from the get go this was 2 days after the Emira was revealed.

Edit: Price Simms has the no-mark up policy on any of their dealers. The only exception is some cars get aftermarket equipment, but it wouldn’t apply to cars reserved from factory build slots.

FWIW, I also placed a deposit right after @Veloist and here are my positions for a GR/Manual/Premium:

1) White 5th
2) Gray 3rd
3) Blue 2nd

So Bay Area/ NorCal is the the only region hyped about the GR 86 haha

Neptune is the best color offered right now for a twin IMHO, and I still think the 86 front clip is better than the BRZ.

I just couldn't wait for it because I have to get back to work at the office, and I am still super happy with WRB.

Can't wait to see yours and what you do with it.:w00t:

Gave deposit in july. No idea where I am on the list, and my dealer have no clue.

I am getting a raven black though, so reading you guys makes me think I may be 1st and alone, which is fantastic.

Nice! I'm also at walnut creek, 4th for white.

We can throw a "Walnut Creek waitlist party" some day :D

Did you specify Trueno Blue, Neptune Blue, or "any blue"?

Specified Neptune Blue, but was just given “blue” in the text response lol. Made sure to tell him that it was not Trueno Blue and sent him a screenshot of Neptune Blue as a safety measure haha.

What date (and maybe time) did you place a deposit?

I'm the guy that specified "any blue", but mostly with Neptune in mind. Did you happen to snap a picture of their list? I put my reservation down beginning of October if i remember correctly.

Ah okay, if you placed it at Walnut Creek, you’re 1 for blue and I’m second, but I did specify exactly for Neptune lol. ITS CONFUSING, but either way, I’m looking forward to getting more order details soon.

I love my Teslas, but I cannot wait to drive a manual again, a more analog experience in this digital world. :burnrubber:

Nov 10th around 1-2pm, how about you? Does this line up with your spot?

It doesn’t, Nov 8 at 4pm for me. :iono:

I dont know man. It might be because I called them that Monday morning and they got my information down and what place I would be. I ended up actually putting down the deposit Wednesday.

So if its going by when I first called them and gave info, it makes sense. That might be why?

It should be by when you have them the deposit.

Looking forward to hearing news from Walnut Creek hopefully tomorrow! Please share if anybody hears from them as well! Was able to sneak a peak at a Sapphire Blue BRZ today, excited for this new car!

Will do, I'm trying hard not to obsess over it. It feels like ordering a Tesla all over again, except this time, I can't log in to see if I've been assigned a VIN number. Makes me more anxious lol. I waited 4 months for my Tesla, let's hope the GR 86 isn't that long of a wait.

Is there something that will be announced tomorrow? Wondering why you are feeling like you may hear news from Walnut Creek tomorrow?

I could use any information at this point! I just want to know if the cars have even began production...

Wait where did you check out a Sapphire Blue BRZ haha

Ok was able to piece together some information…

So based on some info from the Seattle Auto Show by a Toyota Rep, allocations are coming end of the November and ETA’s are mid-December. I see this being true. I’m tracing the BRZ logistics in hopes that the GR 86 follows it as well.

Using the 2022 BRZ we had just sold:

Production Date was 9/29
VIN assigned date was 10/19
Delivery Date was 11/01

So that is about 1 month from production date.

So if that document is true and the first GR 86’s are scheduled to be manufactured 11/11 then using the BRZ timeline:

11/11 Production Date
12/1 VIN Date
12/13 Delivery date

Disclaimer…this could all vary because number 1 Subaru factories may not even be shipping GR 86’s and BRZ together and 2) I’m not sure which Port GR 86’s arrive (Subaru is primarily Richmond, Toyota primarily Benicia)

…but this timeline makes so much sense based on the info out there.

Where is my damn like button?! Let’s hope that since they are built at the same plant, they follow the same schedule for the sake of logistics and not wanting to disrupt those schedules for each manufacturer.

December can’t come soon enough. Stop feeding my anxiety though LOL! :paddle:

I went to the dealer in Burlingame. I actually found it in the employee lot since an employee bought it. He saw me looking at it and offered to let me sit/start it up! The Sapphire Blue actually looks really good in person, highly considering it now...Also, the interior is pretty nice, maybe i'll have to get a premium GR