Chance of a Turbo Version in Next 2 Years?
 

What do you think the odds are that a turbo version will be released by 2024? I want a twin enough that I'd be willing to wait until then but I don't really think it's a realistic possibility, so I'm close to giving up and crossing a twin off my list. I don't want to do aftermarket FI. In May I'll meet with the E-conversion mechanic but he doesn't sound optimistic that he can do what I want.

Zero

If you want a turbo you're not the target audience for this car, plain and simple

Zero percent... But the good news is it'll be easy to add one. I definitely see myself adding an EFR turbo to this car some time in its life, but probably not until it's paid off.

This car is not for you then.

If your priority is straight line speed then you probably just wat to go buy a Mustang or something. This car does not need a turbo for it's intended purpose and price point. I'd rather see a 300hp MR2 for 40-45k in a couple of years

The idea spanned a whole generation and didn't materialize. Don't think it will this gen either. So, if you want turbo, this ain't the route. You'll be missing out though.

Zero. Let's please put this to rest haha

Give up and get a Z.

Toyota is working with Porsche for the MR2, so good luck on that $40-45k price range.

so what happens with the Supra? I seriously doubt Porsche would have any interest in a Toyota marriage plus Toyota is plenty capable on their own.

If you want a turbo, get a Supra. Toyota already makes the car you want.

Is this a meme? Sounds like a meme. Or are we going to keep doing this for the next 10 years with this gen as well?

Tada told me turbo by 2023.

Operative word is Rumor

Here's an article from carbuzz from about a month before 2022 BRZ was officially revealed:
https://carbuzz.com/news/official-20...rz-coming-soon

That's exactly what 2022 BRZ is: TNGA + turbo engine from the Ascent.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/10/ho...eport-in-2021/


debunked

This has been a clickbait slow news filler for 12 years so really never was bunked so didn't need debunking.

The engine is highly modified from the turbo version used in the Ascent. All that is the same is the basic design and the block.
The platform is an upgraded version of the first gen dedicated one and has fuck all to do with the TNGA.
There was not a single accurate fact in that Carbuzz "article"

Did I forget to to use a <sarcasm> tag?

Rumors

:popcorn:

Yeah, I figured it's hopeless. For the sea level dwellers saying this car isn't about straight line speed or someone who needs more power is not the right buyer for this car, ask yourself: Would you buy this if it had 160hp at the crank? Cuz that's what it has where I live at 9,600ft. Just not enough for a 3000lb sports car in 2022.
I'll consider the Supra (kinda heavy) if I can get a body kit that massively changes the looks, but I could never drive it stock. I've never seen a body kit that tones down a car's appearance so I don't know if that exists. Also lacking cargo area.
Z (kinda heavy) is a potential alternative but I wish it had the cargo area the twins have with their seats folded.
I'm gonna hold out hope that the e-conversion garage can figure out a way to build a twin the way I'd want for under $60k.

There's just no other chassis/body style like the twins so it's a shame they're only offered with one engine. With all the cars available on the market how is there no light, small 2+2 with a pass through trunk and turbo?

And an odd rumor at that because it would directly compete with the base model 718, being close in price but at a slight discount when options are considered. Also, why does the largest car maker in the world keep having to bring in partners to build interesting cars? You're embarrassing yourself Toyota. It's obvious all your people can design are appliances aimed at the lowest common denominator. I don't want to hear about cost considerations and profit margins because A: This company can afford to have one or two low profit models. B: This is the company that made the LFA.

Yup.

Yeah, but didn’t they take a MASSIVE loss and zero profit bringing that to the public. They’re probably still shook from that and never want a repeat. Granted it’s a better bet bringing smaller affordable sports cars than one off super cars.

Chance of a Turbo Version in Next 2 Years?
 

VW made way more of a loss on each Veyron, but they didn’t back down from making interesting cars. They made 500 LFAs vs 450 Veyrons. It’s rumored that Toyota lost 500.000 usd on each lfa, VW lost 6.24 million per Veyron. So Toyota lost 250 million, VW lost 2.8 Billion. VW still makes the Chiron now, and a host of crazy sports and super cars accross their brands.

It makes Toyota look limp wristed in comparison, especially since VW had been hot on their heels as #2.

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Oh dude if that was supposed to be sarcasm you failed miserably!

Make it over the top so that there is no mistaking it.

If you're willing to do an e-conversion, why not just spend the 5k on something like a JRSC which is a pretty easy install all things considered?

2 words. Stock holders.

If you continue to lose money but continue a project then they will fire you. This project probobly breaks even when you include Subaru. If you add turbo then you will lose money and steal customers from the Supra and WRX. It makes no sense and will never happen.

It's a tired argument. Asked and answered by both companies. Move on.

Still torqued off that there has been no 2 door wagon.
Gonna hold my breath ...

I didn't know altitude made the car heavier too

Why is no one making a car just-for-me!

Oh it would be 60K nvm.

Got it. VW must not have stockholders.

Only since the late 2000s and not completely. It is mostly privately held by the family. So the structure is very complicated and not as simple as answering to stock holders in a board room.

Remind me how much the new twins weight full of fluids (including gas). Does it round to 3000lbs?

I'm just surprised there isn't a bigger market for a car just like the twins but with more power. I guess most of these buyers must be content with no rear seats at all / less cargo capacity and a bit more weight because if you eliminate those gripes there are plenty of options.

In fact, I think we can all agree ("we" includes Subaru & Toyota) that there is a plenty big enough market for more powerful twins and the only reason they aren't made is to avoid stepping on the toes of other models they make.