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fitcious 10-12-2021 10:02 PM

It’s been a good run
 
Sold my beloved 2013 FRS last week and I miss it already. I had the car since day 1, with 8 miles on the clock. Sold it to Carvana with 48,000 for $20k. Had to sell it while the market is hot- it fetched almost $4k more than two years ago.

Loved this forum and met a lot of good people. The dynamics of this forum has changed since 2013 but it still has a wealth of info and better than any of the fb groups out there. Some good memories were made…

I’ll keep my account here just in case I get a GR86 down the road. Keep this forum alive!

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Lonewolf 10-12-2021 11:21 PM

You got solid money for your car...good move :thumbup:

MJones_RB 10-13-2021 03:23 PM

The 86s have a lot of character for a car; that's rare these days. Unless you step up to a Porsche or something even more exotic, you won't find a car designed solely for the enjoyment of the driver.

KMA KiCKz 10-13-2021 03:28 PM

With that good of a value, I would've done the same thing :thumbsup:

fitcious 10-13-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 3472945)
The 86s have a lot of character for a car; that's rare these days. Unless you step up to a Porsche or something even more exotic, you won't find a car designed solely for the enjoyment of the driver.


I think I wished mine was a manual. It was my one mistake when buying it. Maybe another 86 down the line!

humfrz 10-13-2021 11:08 PM

Time for a Buick?

:iono:

(jest ah messen wich ya)

;)

Opie 10-14-2021 08:53 AM

Nooooooooooooooo

Dadhawk 10-14-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 3472801)
Sold my beloved 2013 FRS last week and I miss it already. I had the car since day 1, with 8 miles on the clock. Sold it to Carvana with 48,000 for $20k. Had to sell it while the market is hot- it fetched almost $4k more than two years ago.

That's $16K more than they offered me for mine ($3,976), and just because mine has almost 150K more miles on it!

Congratulations on a good sale!

CincyJohn 10-14-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3473105)
That's $16K more than they offered me for mine ($3,976), and just because mine has almost 150K more miles on it!

Congratulations on a good sale!

That price is incredible. Of course, the 2020 I bought 14 months ago has 25k miles on it, so I guess I am keeping her for awhile!

BTW, I've never understood the obsession with miles over years. Obviously, there is some sort of calculation that can be done and what matters most of type of miles/extent of care.

For example, almost all of my miles are exactly what you would want from a longevity standpoint. 25 mile each way commute, almost entirely highway. Long enough to heat up sufficiently, not too long. Consistent RPM's in the 3,000 range - very little shifting.

DarkPira7e 10-14-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyJohn (Post 3473143)
That price is incredible. Of course, the 2020 I bought 14 months ago has 25k miles on it, so I guess I am keeping her for awhile!

BTW, I've never understood the obsession with miles over years. Obviously, there is some sort of calculation that can be done and what matters most of type of miles/extent of care.

For example, almost all of my miles are exactly what you would want from a longevity standpoint. 25 mile each way commute, almost entirely highway. Long enough to heat up sufficiently, not too long. Consistent RPM's in the 3,000 range - very little shifting.


A 1 year old car with 0 miles will have significantly less wear than a 1 year old car with 80k miles. Demographic is also important. A car with 130k miles on it that has oil changes and timing belt done when recommended has nothing to do with the rust underneath if it's driven in the salt belt. I won't even buy a used car within 500 miles of my location because of this. Cars with 1 winter on them here have corrosion damage in unimaginable ways.




Anyways, to OP - good call to sell while the market is hot! Even if you love the car, you can get something newer or more suited to your needs now. Glad you had a great journey

Grady 10-15-2021 09:17 AM

I hope this was an extra car and he can wait until this inflated market levels off or goes down some if we are lucky. Selling and buying in an inflated market is no different than selling and buying in a depressed market. In fact chances are you can do better selling and buying in a depressed market if you are patient.

fitcious 10-15-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3473354)
I hope this was an extra car and he can wait until this inflated market levels off or goes down some if we are lucky. Selling and buying in an inflated market is no different than selling and buying in a depressed market. In fact chances are you can do better selling and buying in a depressed market if you are patient.


Yup it was an extra car

CincyJohn 10-15-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3473176)
A 1 year old car with 0 miles will have significantly less wear than a 1 year old car with 80k miles. Demographic is also important. A car with 130k miles on it that has oil changes and timing belt done when recommended has nothing to do with the rust underneath if it's driven in the salt belt. I won't even buy a used car within 500 miles of my location because of this. Cars with 1 winter on them here have corrosion damage in unimaginable ways.

I am not arguing that mileage isn't important, I just think it is mostly overrated when compared to years. Obviously they both have relevance, just how much is the issue. Knowing about the owner, how and where the miles were driven, etc. are very important as well.

As for corrosion, I don't think that is near the issue it used to be, even in the salt belt.

Yoshoobaroo 10-15-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyJohn (Post 3473440)
I am not arguing that mileage isn't important, I just think it is mostly overrated when compared to years. Obviously they both have relevance, just how much is the issue. Knowing about the owner, how and where the miles were driven, etc. are very important as well.

As for corrosion, I don't think that is near the issue it used to be, even in the salt belt.


Objective value =/ market value unfortunately.

86TOYO2k17 10-15-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3473176)
Anyways, to OP - good call to sell while the market is hot! Even if you love the car, you can get something newer or more suited to your needs now. Glad you had a great journey

There is a good chance the market will always be “hot” or in other words this is the new norm. At least for a long while. And its all relative if you then need to turn around and buy in this same market. Not sure if this was an extra car or track toy so no need to replace or what he got instead.

fitcious 10-15-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3473524)
There is a good chance the market will always be “hot” or in other words this is the new norm. At least for a long while. And its all relative if you then need to turn around and buy in this same market. Not sure if this was an extra car or track toy so no need to replace or what he got instead.


Extra car for me

Grady 10-17-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 3473384)
Yup it was an extra car

That is good, now you just have the gamble that the market will change. It will at some time I hope. My brother did the same thing. He bought an A6 for $35K over a year ago. Then traded it in on a Diesel Canyon straight across. After a while he ended up selling the Canyon back to the dealer he bought it for for $40k. Now He is driving a 1999 Ford F-150 he inherited from our Dad.

fitcious 10-25-2021 02:34 AM

Found my car on Carvana:

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2058177

WNDSRFR 10-25-2021 12:56 PM

I think that's just about how much I paid for mine new back in '13. For an 8 year old car to hold that much value is encouraging to say the least.
How much do the new ones cost? Something like 30-50K?

fitcious 10-25-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3475777)
I think that's just about how much I paid for mine new back in '13. For an 8 year old car to hold that much value is encouraging to say the least.
How much do the new ones cost? Something like 30-50K?


The new GR86 should be around 30-34k.

Reason isn’t the car holding value but the crazy market right now for used vehicles

Dadhawk 10-27-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3475777)
I think that's just about how much I paid for mine new back in '13. For an 8 year old car to hold that much value is encouraging to say the least.

I wouldn't read too much into it unless you are planning on making a move in the next 12 months. We're in a used car price bubble right now.

Also, it only holds that value if you have unusually low mileage. Carvana has a 2015 (which is 3 years older) for the same price because it has over 50,000 miles on it.

A 2013 with 100,000 miles (which is near normal mileage) is listed for $17,990.

bcj 10-27-2021 01:39 PM

Overall, the twins have held value quite well. Not Sorry.

Tcoat 10-27-2021 02:08 PM

If you just go back a few years there were dozens of threads moaning and groaning about how bad the depreciation was.
Conditions change and values can go up and down like a pogo stick.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...=112110&page=2

series.trackday 10-27-2021 02:55 PM

The used car market is absolutely insane right now, with how high prices are. That's likely to hold for a while as well, as the auto manufacturers have been hindered in production by the silicon shortage.

I bought my 2017 series.Yellow just a few months ago for $27K. That's barely less than the price of a new Gen2 base model.


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