changing the transmission of an fr-s from automatic to manual.
 

I was solely bent on getting a manual transmission,mainly because I like to "feel" the car and so on. You shifters out there know what I mean;). But anyway, here's my dilema. My friend has a whiteout fr-s in automatic that he would sell me for about 15k. brand new,its going to be shipped to him in october. dont ask me how he is able to sell it for so cheap lol. I don't know myself. I just want to know how much it would cost and everything to change the transmission to manual.

Sell it, then buy a manual... duh

It depends on the cost of the parts, but it's going to be a bit expensive since you can't pick up a suitable transmission anywhere but a dealer. Same for the pedal parts. You may also need to change the ECU. Of course, the paddle shifters will become useless - maybe you could change them into radio controls.

In the end, it could cost enough to make this not such a great deal if you do the work yourself. If you have it done by someone else, you end up above the cost of a new car with a 6spd. You're also going to hurt the resale value and void your warranty.

My recommendation is to just buy the car and drive it as-is. Or if you're set entirely on a 6mt, then buy one instead of trying to make one from an auto. If you still want a manual, you can still sell this one for more than you paid for the next 2 years or so.

-Justin

SELL ME THAT AUTO.:confused0068::bow:

haha

Sorry man, something doesn't add up. Anyone else find it fishy his friend is getting a brand new frs auto for ten 12k under msrp, and its being"shipped" to him? And then he is going to just sell it at that price?

I would buy it, sell it for 22K, and use that money to put into a 6MT BRZ Limited :D

Sell it at a profit, use profit as a large down payment on MT FR-S. Honestly though ... something isn't right with this picture.

this^ seriously man not trying to sound rude but that would be stupid wasting money on a swap, sell it and buy a manual. dont waste your time. but this whole scenario sounds mega sketch

Incredibly fishy. Not sure why he'd take a $10k loss on a car he hasn't taken delivery of.

-Justin

not only fishy but impossible.the aut frs ottd price is almost 30k and his friend is selling his brand new whiteout frs(add 220$ special color)half the price and all his worried and thinking about right now is "how much it cost to swap transmissions"id be worried about scam more than anything geez smh:bonk::iono::slap:













4

He hasn't picked it up yet? Then why buy it at all if he doesn't want it? Sounds like BS but what do I know :)

Auto to manual swaps usually consist of:
Transmission (obviously)
Clutch disc/pressure plate/flywheel
Hydraulics (either OEM hardlines or SS braided lines)
Clutch master and slave cylinders
6MT brake pedal (may be combined with gas in a single pedal, or by itself or if everything else is the same and just the pedal arm/pad is sold may be able to just swap that one part)
Clutch pedal assembly

Specifics, I've never looked at a 6AT so I'm not sure if there's a hole/plate on the firewall where the CMC would go, or if you'd have to drill it.

Also it's likely (but not a 100% bet) that the driveshaft is different as well (length, or input shaft going into the trans).

Also, 6AT ECU may not operate without the 6AT's sensors working, or wiring work to bypass all that, so it may need a 6MT ECU.

Wiring for common sensors in the trans may also be different.

Trans mount may also be different.



Cliff notes: There is almost no reason to justify this swap on a car this new without a ready supply of pre-owned parts. Sell the 6AT if you get it for that crackrock price and buy a 6MT car.

FRS for half price...........BUY BUY BUY BUY WTF WTF WTF

Sounds like someone jumped the gun and bought an auto but now wants a manual *wink*

Don't bother converting it. It is so much hassel you don't even want to imagine.

Wait a second! is he also selling you a bridge?

The first thing I would suggest, is to obviously not give him a dime til he hands over the keys and some sort of document stating that the car is fully paid for and yours.
Then I would sell it for profit and buy a manual.

This thread :attention_whore::dnftt::sigh::barf:

This is the most likely explanation, although I have no idea why he wouldn't just cancel the order and switch to a 6MT and wait a little longer. :shrug:

I don't believe the story for a second.

I think the OP bought an auto or has one on order and now wants a manual.

People do auto to manual swaps in old Subarus because it's relatively cheap to do with junkyard parts. New car? Sell it and buy a manual, take the hit because it will be less than the cost to swap it from auto to manual.

Unless the reason he wants to convert it to a MT from an AT is because he cant sell it. Stolen? Probably not but just saying...

You better make sure that car has no liens before you front the cash my friend. For as much as you are saving you may want to pay a lawyer to review things and make sure it is legit, unless you just really have a loaded and generous friend.

The only way it makes sense is that there's some reason he can't sell the car legitimately. Most likely it's stolen. Otherwise it makes a lot more sense to just sell the car and buy a manual. MT swap on this car without a junkyard donor car is going to be a very long expensive process.

Stolen or rich friend?

Why is it a dumb idea? I agree it is in this case but your statement is pretty generalized.

My current race car shell was an automatic. It cost $300 complete, driveline swap from the damaged chassis was easy and inexpensive and a lot easier than finding a cheap manual transmission non-running car.

I'm doing an auto to manual conversion on a 97 240SX SE right now also, it was an auto that sold for 3k LESS just because it wasn't a manual. It was purchased because it was a single owner car with 66k miles on it, swap in the manual and SR20DET and massively increase it's value.

It's not always a dumb idea.

The real questions are, do you want to buy a stolen car, do you want to get scammed out of all your money, or, is your friend the worst person with money in the word?

An auto to manual swap is most definetly do-able and not a colossal undertaking. It seems like a lot of people here are afraid of taking on any type of project with their cars. The thing is though, you've got to be prepared. No one has done this yet, so you would have to figure out what is required. Beware, this is no small task so if you are afraid to dive in, either grow a set or don't bother. Here's a list of parts / tasks off the top of my head which may be required:
Transmission (duh)
Flywheel
Clutch
Clutch Master Cylinder / Slave Cylinder / Lines / Reservoir
Clutch Pedal / Switch / Drill Holes for Pedal Bracket
Shifter / Bushings / Brackets
Transmission / Engine & Transmission Wiring Harness
ECU
Possibly a full body harness (The Mazda Protege was like this)
Brake Pedal / Bracket
Driveshaft
Final Drive (Not sure if autos have same FD)
Transmission Mount

You're still going to have things left over like the shift paddles and trans sport mode button.

Like I said before you would be the first person to do this so no one really knows at this point what's required. This list is by no means 100% complete, nor is everything on it necessarily required. Should be a decent guide to get you started should you decide to take on such a project.

ok guys heres the story. THIS IS A SERIOUS THREAD IM NOT MAKING ANY JOKES OR TROLLING. My friend had gotten a g37s, but the g37s was experiencing problems so he traded it in at a dealership and ended up having to pay about 7,000 for the automatic fr-s. Long story short, he crashed it, but it wasn't his fault(the other guy ran a red light and hit him). Thank god he had warranty and Toyota(or scion) is shipping a new one to him in October. He told me the crash kindof made him not want the car anymore and there is nothing he can do about it since he already bought it,which is why he wants to sell it to me, since I was planning on getting a whiteout but in manual. and he wouldn't screw me over over something like this, I've known this kid for about 5 years now. grew up together:)

and yes I know the transmission conversion will be hell, but how much would it cost? it might be worth it if the fr-s is cheap enough!!!!!!!!!!!!

rich friend

thanks bud, I might end up selling this one for a little more and buying a manual

I choose number 3. ;)

I don't care how much money hes has, this is plain retarded.

IM NOT COMPLAINING CHEAP FRS FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:party0030::happyanim:

Yell out, "Autobots roll out!" and watch as your car transforms into a manual. :bellyroll:

j/k

Like everyone has already said. Sell it and buy what you want.

BS

A warranty doesn't get you a new car in the event of a crash.

You can get the SR20DET and trans for less than $2000. This guy's looking at 3x that just for the transmission.

It's a bad idea because there are not junkyard FR-S's yet, and because he's wiping out the value and warranty of a brand new car.

Several people have already said these swaps make sense when there are junkyard parts available.

-Justin

I'm pretty sure he meant insurance.

-Justin

Heck, try out the Auto first you might like it. It works very well in this car.

this doesnt make any sense. if he sells you the frs for 15k and still owes 7k, then the net result of him trading his g37 in is 8k which is a shitty deal. either something is up or your friend is retarded.

eithe way dont swap the tranny. its not worth it to lose the entire drivetrain warranty on a new car. just sell it and buy a new manual one.

Did you actually read my post?

I agreed and stated it was dumb in this case, but not dumb in general as that poster stated.

On a brand new car?

Sell it and buy what you want or pass entirely.

You'll have to swap ECU's, axles, other odds and ends, tons of work, downtime, voided warranty, etc. Not worth it.

I'M not sure what he meant. I know he had 3 year warranty on it along with the insurance.