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jesse2021 08-24-2021 03:33 PM

2015 brz track reliability??
 
hi guys am new in this forum just got out of a s550 mustang and wanting to get into something light and nimble and cheaper to run at the track, am looking at a 2015 brz, what do you guys think about this car for track reliability, realistically ill be doing 4-6 events a year so nothing to crazy, if u guys have a link for this info let me know or if someone here that has track experience could chime in it would be greatly appreciated thanks.

TommyW 08-24-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jesse2021 (Post 3459575)
hi guys am new in this forum just got out of a s550 mustang and wanting to get into something light and nimble and cheaper to run at the track, am looking at a 2015 brz, what do you guys think about this car for track reliability, realistically ill be doing 4-6 events a year so nothing to crazy, if u guys have a link for this info let me know or if someone here that has track experience could chime in it would be greatly appreciated thanks.

Change pads and brake fluid and good to go. Better tires if you have decent car control already

jflogerzi 08-24-2021 04:55 PM

For extra peace of mind oil cooler as well. But honestly outside of this and what was mentioned its all you need. If its a 6SP I would change the diff and trans fluid before taking out if service records were not provided.

jesse2021 08-24-2021 05:07 PM

cool. so these cars pretty reliable at the track? how many outings have u had not sure if u keep track.

jesse2021 08-24-2021 05:09 PM

so safe to say they are reliable, I mean am sure they are not miata levels of reliability but what is, also I don't fit in it but I do fit in the brz, anything to look for also what oil cooler u recommend ?

dpfarr 08-24-2021 05:12 PM

One of those cars you can drive there, session all day and drive home.

jesse2021 08-24-2021 05:13 PM

good to hear! not familiar with that flat 4 engine..

Code Monkey 08-24-2021 05:45 PM

Do some research, plenty of threads on this forum. If you are not willing to put in time and effort to learn more about potential problems and solutions, it does not matter how reliable the car is.

jesse2021 08-24-2021 06:59 PM

there had to be that one guy... bro just click on another thread.

TommyW 08-24-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Code Monkey (Post 3459628)
Do some research, plenty of threads on this forum. If you are not willing to put in time and effort to learn more about potential problems and solutions, it does not matter how reliable the car is.

Then why even have a forum. People can just search old posts.

new2subaru 08-24-2021 10:52 PM

Jesse, I have a 2015 that has seen around 35 track days. I drop the oil every 2nd-3rd event and use a JRDOC. So far so good.

https://jacksonracing.com/product/fr...toroil-cooler/

I've also removed a bunch of weight. It makes a difference IMO. Good brake fluid and a pad change to start and that'll get you going. I ran the stock tires for a few events too.

ZDan 08-24-2021 11:53 PM

It's been a good reliable street/track car for me. ~34 track days and 55k miles on mine. Fun fun fun! You might get some camber bolts and offset front strut top mounts to get some front camber. Good tires, good brake pads, fresh DOT4 and have at it!

jesse2021 08-25-2021 12:47 AM

thank you..

jesse2021 08-25-2021 12:48 AM

awesome info, I ran my stock suspension and tires too at the beginning on my last mustang it wasn't fast but it was fun lol

jesse2021 08-25-2021 12:48 AM

good to hear!

steverife 08-25-2021 08:52 AM

Wheel studs are junk, car is sensitive to oiling (both temps and type of oil), the '13's can eat coils, pay attention to wheel bearings/hubs.

Honestly, it is all stuff that is pretty standard with any car that you are going to beat on.

With that said, I agree with Code Monkey that you are better served to do your own research.

14stu 08-25-2021 04:22 PM

I've got a 2014 with 75k miles and over 150 trackdays (and the same number of autox events). The cars are very reliable at the track. Basic maintenance is all you typically run into (fluids, brake rotors and pads, and wheel bearings).

Opie 08-26-2021 04:31 PM

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I have a 2013, over 100 days on track events since 2017, other than consumables the only thing I've replaced is the left CV Axle twice. Still on OEM clutch....

CrowsFeast 08-27-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3460230)
I have a 2013, over 100 days on track events since 2017, other than consumables the only thing I've replaced is the left CV Axle twice. Still on OEM clutch....

I mean, consumables can be a pretty broad term. Some people (not me) consider wheels (not just tires), brake calipers, brake lines, and more to be 'consumables' if they're tracking sufficiently.

Of course those same people probably consider engines consumables too... :lol:

Kelse92 08-27-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3460476)
I mean, consumables can be a pretty broad term. Some people (not me) consider wheels (not just tires), brake calipers, brake lines, and more to be 'consumables' if they're tracking sufficiently.

Of course those same people probably consider engines consumables too... :lol:

Yes, to all of the above being consumables and why I opted to stop beating on a 10k motor M3 and got a 3k motor 86... one of the two was/is eventually going to blow up with track use. Just boils down as always to how often you're going to the track if you'll see it in the life of the ownership of your car.
Is it likely to happen, no, but its something to consider and put money aside for. Brakes/tires/fluids are standard though for calculating a good baseline for a yearly track budget

Opie 08-27-2021 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3460476)
I mean, consumables can be a pretty broad term. Some people (not me) consider wheels (not just tires), brake calipers, brake lines, and more to be 'consumables' if they're tracking sufficiently.

Of course those same people probably consider engines consumables too... :lol:

My consumables have been tires, brake pads & rotors. Plus fluids, filters, plugs etc. as normal maintenance.

Engine, transmission, rear diff, clutch, T/O bearing are all original (as in, they were installed at the factory by Subaru)

CSG Mike 08-27-2021 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3460476)
I mean, consumables can be a pretty broad term. Some people (not me) consider wheels (not just tires), brake calipers, brake lines, and more to be 'consumables' if they're tracking sufficiently.

Of course those same people probably consider engines consumables too... :lol:

They're indeed all consumable. It really depends on what you consider acceptable modes of failure, and if the failure may or may not be catastrophic.

I look for a balance between a true racecar interval, and a street car interval, backed by objective data collected (wear rates, temperatures seen, etc.).


Wheels are absolutely consumable if the brakes are getting hot, but if the brakes are getting hot enough to cause this, then the brakes are undersized. If the brakes are getting that hot, then you also cause other failures, such as bending knuckles, knocking wheel bearings out of round, etc.

Conversely, some folks are always needing to replace while others never need wheel bearings. The same folks needing wheel bearings will also tell you things like "i don't need a bbk cuz my brakes don't get that hot", "Don't bother balancing wheels, it's a track/race car", "Does the wheel balance? then run it. Bends don't matter", etc.


Ultimately it comes down to proactive vs reactive maintenace and replacement. For a casual trackday enthusiast, reactive is often the preferred method, because it's cheaper and more convenient. This often transitions to a proactive methodology as track attendance increases, as proactive maintenance is cheaper.


I maintain my car proactively. It's a large contributor to why my car never has any significant downtime, and doesn't suffer catastrophic failure. I don't want to find out what happens if I lose brakes at 140mph. Likewise, it's cheaper for me to sell my wheels lightly used with a low heat cycle count, in near-mint condition, rather than replacing them as they eventually bend from getting soft over use time.


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