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Ghost of Akina 08-13-2021 02:52 AM

2022 Acura Integra confirmed
 
Acura dropped the news that the Integra will return in 2022 on their Instagram tonight.

Here’s an article from Road & Track: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...tegra-in-2022/

gymratter 08-13-2021 03:18 AM

here is the press release before people start yelling fake news lol

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...new-generation

Atropine 08-13-2021 03:20 AM

Oh nice. Hopefully its a nicer Civic and still really sporty.

I always liked the Integras and the RSX.

Honda reliability with Acura luxury.

Curious the pricepoint and the performance.

The wife could use a nice little hatchback/coupe.

vh_supra26 08-13-2021 03:22 AM

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/yr...gra-teaser.jpg

Jordanwolf 08-13-2021 10:20 AM

.... I just don't have the money for this man...

Sasquachulator 08-13-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Atropine (Post 3456188)
Oh nice. Hopefully its a nicer Civic and still really sporty.

I always liked the Integras and the RSX.

Honda reliability with Acura luxury.

Curious the pricepoint and the performance.

The wife could use a nice little hatchback/coupe.

We've always had the "luxury" civics up in here in Canada.

Aside from the obvious N/A market integra, RSX, and the ILX, we also had an Acura EL (upscale Civic based on the 6-7th gen civic) and the Acura CSX (8th gen Civic, which was basically the acura badged JDM styled 8th gen civic)

From the teaser, i wonder if it just ends up looking like a smaller 2 door TSX instead of something a bit more uniquely styled........

I might be interested in this if it wasnt for:
1.) it came out or was announced sooner...much sooner.....
2.) it actually looks and feels more upscale than your typical honda (I'd like to feel like a luxury car brand should be a step up and not just a higher trim level)
3.) It has a stick shift (unknown at this point)

Opie 08-13-2021 10:48 AM

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Already spotted out testing....

ayau 08-13-2021 10:48 AM

this is most likely just an 11th gen civic underneath with some luxury amenities. i'm guessing it'll get a civic si 1.5 turbo w/ CVT.

will be interesting to see if the integra type s will get the 2.0 from the fk8 civic type r.

what made the original integra unique was the low weight and front double wishbone. doubt this modern integra will have either of those attributes.

if you want a 2 door, why would you pick this integra over the gr86/brz? costs more and is fwd.

Sasquachulator 08-13-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3456225)
Already spotted out testing....

i remember seeing those....people thought it was fake lol.
plus the renders that were paired with them looked....awkward lol.

Maybe there is something to them.

Its hard to tell though but the front fascia doesnt seem to match the lines of the teaser.....the space between the headlines look too narrow for the grille and gaping maw below looks a little too big for the current Acura styling theme.

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 3456226)
this is most likely just an 11th gen civic underneath with some luxury amenities. i'm guessing it'll get a civic si 1.5 turbo w/ CVT.

will be interesting to see if the integra type s will get the 2.0 from the fk8 civic type r.

what made the original integra unique was the low weight and front double wishbone. doubt this modern integra will have either of those attributes.

if you want a 2 door, why would you pick this integra over the gr86/brz? costs more and is fwd.

Maybe it ends up being a Civic type R in a new suit.

RToyo86 08-13-2021 11:11 AM

The original integra was awesome. I was fortunate to end up with a GSR as my first car.

It would be awesome if they somehow offered a high rev NA engine but it's likely going to be turbocharged.

Jordanwolf 08-13-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3456229)
The original integra was awesome. I was fortunate to end up with a GSR as my first car.

It would be awesome if they somehow offered a high rev NA engine but it's likely going to be turbocharged.

Turbocharged... Just like everyone and their mom keeps asking for in everything that isn't. They'll never put an NA engine in this, that's going backwards.

ayau 08-13-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3456227)
i remember seeing those....people thought it was fake lol.
plus the renders that were paired with them looked....awkward lol.

Maybe there is something to them.

Its hard to tell though but the front fascia doesnt seem to match the lines of the teaser.....the space between the headlines look too narrow for the grille and gaping maw below looks a little too big for the current Acura styling theme.



Maybe it ends up being a Civic type R in a new suit.

yeah, i can see the type s variant getting the fk8 2.0T motor.

being that it'll carry the type-s name, it'll probably still have extra amenities that a type r buyer wouldn't care about. for example, it'll probably retain a moonroof and heated heated leather seats.

i think that's one of the main reasons why acura gave people a type s nsx and not a type r. the type r is too stripped down and people would complain that they're paying 180k for it. the type s trim is more fitting for acura brand/image; luxury sport.

HKz 08-13-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3456225)
Already spotted out testing....

I originally thought this was the integra mule when those pics first came out but seeing the teaser photo with a traditional grill it is now odd that the mule only has a cut out for a bottom grill. Also none of the shapes around the headlight from the teaser matches the mule either but that could be due to heavy camo..

Either way pretty awesome that honda is bringing the nameplate back. If under 3000 lbs with the type r engine things would be pretty interesting even if it is fwd..

Arthur-A 08-13-2021 12:53 PM

Meh..fwd

ayau 08-13-2021 02:08 PM

Will be interesting if this will be a North American specific car or if Honda will sell the new Integra in Japan too.

Sasquachulator 08-13-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 3456280)
Will be interesting if this will be a North American specific car or if Honda will sell the new Integra in Japan too.

thats a good question....Acura doesnt exist in Japan as far as i know so everything that comes as an acura is still a Honda there.....im not sure about the recent models though if that changed in anyway.

It'll likely be a Honda Integra then, unless its only a N/A model.

alphasaur 08-13-2021 02:38 PM

A type S would be cool as a more luxury oriented CTR

TommyW 08-13-2021 02:47 PM

Thinking Civic SI with a different body and some upgrades. There's no way they'll spend the money on a ground up new design.

Capt Spaulding 08-13-2021 02:52 PM

At one point I had 2 ‘88 models, a 2dr and a 4dr, in the garage. Loved them. Today? I don’t have a desire for a fwd sports coupe. Something about those two concepts “fwd” and “sports coupe” in the same sentence just doesn’t work for me.

vh_supra26 08-13-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3456291)
Thinking Civic SI with a different body and some upgrades. There's no way they'll spend the money on a ground up new design.

LOL if it just ends up being a reskin 4 door Civic. AKA ILX 2.0 with an Integra badge because of nostalgia and marketing BS.

Vracer111 08-13-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur-A (Post 3456260)
Meh..fwd

It will be an AWD hybrid drivetrain.

Love the several DA integras I had. My very first car I bought was a '90 GS coupe and my favorite was a '90 RS coupe, 2300lbs ready to run track car that rotated the rear end around quicker than a RWD car. As fun as the FR-S ever was and had a better motor.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-.../i-78qbQzC.jpg

It has to be able to compete with the 86 and have a proper performance tuned suspension and playful character yet more buttoned down and serious than the hottest Civic. If Honda screws this up they will have lost me for life.

TommyW 08-13-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 3456300)
LOL if it just ends up being a reskin 4 door Civic. AKA ILX 2.0 with an Integra badge because of nostalgia and marketing BS.

Coupe….

vh_supra26 08-13-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3456303)
Coupe….

But the 11th gen only comes as a sedan and liftback.

TommyW 08-13-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 3456304)
But the 11th gen only comes as a sedan and liftback.

correct but as I was saying it will be a new body.

strat61caster 08-13-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3456291)
Thinking Civic SI with a different body and some upgrades. There's no way they'll spend the money on a ground up new design.

Honda spends dumb money on things only nerds care about, like double wishbone front suspension in their 4,000# luxury sedans. While it may not be a ground up design I think they learned their lesson with the ILX and CRZ that it's gotta offer something interesting or it'll flop. And besides, Honda fanbois became fanbois because Civic/Accord/CRX/Integra/DelSol/etc. were lego cars where parts where plentiful and mixing and matching from junkyards in the 90's/00's was a lifestyle.

Maybe that something interesting is just a 2-door hatch Si with decent seats, that's not the worst thing in the world.

Maybe they figured out how to build an NSX-lite hybrid powertrain on a budget that's fun to drive and offers performance on par with an Si. That would be pretty neat.

It was a safe bet that Nissan wouldn't do anything interesting with the Z, Toyota surprised me with the FA24 but Honda picked up their game at some point 5-10 years ago after the 9th gen Civic flopped so I expect something noteworthy out of this, even if it's just a $30k 2-door Si with the Type-R revo-knuckle or K20C4 + LSD.
:popcorn:

vh_supra26 08-13-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3456306)
correct but as I was saying it will be a new body.

I'm just finding it odd to only offer the Integra as an coupe and leaving the Civic as a sedan only. Unless Honda wants all previous and potential Civic "coupe" buyers to move up into the Acura brand. I guess we shall see.

gymratter 08-13-2021 03:20 PM

posted on our sister forum

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...eneration.385/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...x522-jpg.1840/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...klz-jpeg.1833/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...4ek-jpeg.1834/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...xfy-jpeg.1835/

weederr33 08-13-2021 05:25 PM

I remember wanting an Integra back when I was a teenager and the F&F were all the rage in the early 2000s. Never could find one that wasn't riced out or insanely over priced. By the time I could afford one that was over priced the twins were a thing and I got that instead. Still, I always enjoy another sporty option.

Irace86.2.0 08-13-2021 07:17 PM

Friend in highschool in 1999 had a sonic purple Integra Type R that had a JRSC. He also had a 94 RX7. We had a few GSRs at campus and SIs.

I like the theory the Civic is a sedan and the Integra is the coupe. True enthusiasts might want to pony up the cash, so doors and luxury will differentiate the two.

kaputt 08-13-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3456307)
It was a safe bet that Nissan wouldn't do anything interesting with the Z, Toyota surprised me with the FA24 but Honda picked up their game at some point 5-10 years ago after the 9th gen Civic flopped so I expect something noteworthy out of this, even if it's just a $30k 2-door Si with the Type-R revo-knuckle or K20C4 + LSD.
:popcorn:

That honestly sounds amazing, but I am a Honda guy at heart. If I could throw a LSD in my Civic Coupe it would be a pretty awesome car.

This is probably going to keep me waiting around a little bit on making a move on an 86. I'm looking for a truly fun car though so Honda is really going to have to come through to make it compete with a purpose built sports car. But if it hits all the right nostalgia buttons, who knows.

mazeroni 08-15-2021 01:44 AM

* Renders... The grill in the teaser photo doesn't match, but the prototype vehicle seems to have a different front-end design as well. Not sure what is going on. 2 and 4 door variants, maybe?

Also, this is going to cost $50K.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/new-acura-integra-type-r-renders-illustrations/

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s..._J-TR_10-2.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s..._J-TR_12-2.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s..._J-TR_14-2.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...r_J-TR_1-2.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s..._J-TR_18-2.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...r_J-TR_9-2.jpg

dpfarr 08-15-2021 03:23 AM

Looks a lot better than the ctr.

gymratter 08-16-2021 03:43 AM

the "spy shots" are fake and the renders are just fan art. none of it matches the teaser that was released by Honda.

Yoshoobaroo 08-16-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dpfarr (Post 3456621)
Looks a lot better than the ctr.


That’s not a terribly high bar though. Both the original Integra and the RSX look way better than the current CTR. The seventh Gen Civic Si hatch does too.

The 10th gen‘s design is a bit of a mess all-around. The stick-on body work on the CTR is over the top, but it’s not the root of the problem IMO.

Jordanwolf 08-16-2021 11:09 AM

What makes you think that? If this is to be anything of a replacement to the ILX we could see a base model integra for a great price. And with the assumption the Integra will only get a Type S trim and not Type R, it may undercut the CTR or be very close in price.

Irace86.2.0 08-16-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3456830)
What makes you think that? If this is to be anything of a replacement to the ILX we could see a base model integra for a great price. And with the assumption the Integra will only get a Type S trim and not Type R, it may undercut the CTR or be very close in price.

I’m guessing the same. Starting price of a base model in the 30’s with the SI’s 1.5T. Type-S model with the 2.0T in the 40’s. Maybe a Type R model that is a hybrid in the 50’s.

TommyW 08-16-2021 11:36 AM

It wont look like the renderings, they never do.

Jordanwolf 08-16-2021 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3456833)
I’m guessing the same. Starting price of a base model in the 30’s with the SI’s 1.8T. Type-S model with the 2.0T in the 40’s. Maybe a Type R model that is a hybrid in the 50’s.

I can see the 3 spec thing happening, but we won't see Type R branding from Acura, and we won't see 3 completely different powertrains, that's wishful thinking. Also if we were going to see Type R under Acura, we would've seen it in the outgoing NSX for sure... But I've been wrong before, I never thought we'd see an Integra again.

Expect an A-spec. Base -> A-spec -> Type S. I feel most buyers will be either base or Type S.


Btw Si engine is 1.5T.. unless their changing it for 11th gen, which I doubt.

Irace86.2.0 08-16-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3456839)
I can see the 3 spec thing happening, but we won't see Type R branding from Acura, and we won't see 3 completely different powertrains, that's wishful thinking. Also if we were going to see Type R under Acura, we would've seen it in the outgoing NSX for sure... But I've been wrong before, I never thought we'd see an Integra again.

Expect an A-spec. Base -> A-spec -> Type S. I feel most buyers will be either base or Type S.


Btw Si engine is 1.5T.. unless their changing it for 11th gen, which I doubt.

Yes, 1.5T. My slip up.

So maybe the Type-S gets the 2.0T, but maybe it gets the version in the Accord or maybe the Type R turbo for top end, but maybe it gets balancing shafts like in the Accord for smoothness. What else doesn’t it get from the CTR? It would have to get less performance to be priced about the same.

Jordanwolf 08-16-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3456841)
Yes, 1.5T. My slip up.

So maybe the Type-S gets the 2.0T, but maybe it gets the version in the Accord or maybe the Type R turbo for top end, but maybe it gets balancing shafts like in the Accord for smoothness. What else doesn’t it get from the CTR? It would have to get less performance to be priced about the same.

The cheaper sedan chassis, as well as the Accord 2.0T with Integra specific tune and maybe only the Accord AT. Suspension will need to be lush as it will be under the Acura brand, so perhaps even that will be held back, but have some minor similarities to the CTRs to make it somewhat capable.

Maybe what we'll see is a lighter, smaller, better handling Accord under the veil of an Integra.. and that's not a bad thing. Those expecting something raw I think will be disappointed.


But.... Things could also go in the complete opposite direction where we see SH-AWD, and something built to compete with Supra/M2 territory, but I'm just not seeing it.

What I am pretty sure on is they don't want it to compete with the 11th gen CTR. People are already screaming that their FK8s days are numbered because of this announcement, but I look at this as something of a good second car had I the cash money.


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