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Stonehorsw 08-07-2021 11:57 PM

Infotainment differences?
 
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Base BRZ shown in some japanese vídeos are different from limited

Jegan_V 08-08-2021 12:21 AM

There will be infotainment differences between regions, let alone the brands. You will not be able to use Japan spec for North American or European infotainment. For North American infotainment you'll have to wait for the American reviews of this car to see if they put a different unit in a different trim(unlikely is my guess). All they seemed to promise is 8.0 inch screen.

Just look at the press photo of a North American GR86 and a Japan one, the Japan one had no volume or tuning knobs and appears to be a larger screen while the North American one does.

Yoshoobaroo 08-08-2021 08:55 AM

Infotainment differences?
 
All the Japanese cars have had aftermarket radios in it. The base models usually have a 2DIN Alpine unit with a ~6” screen, and the high trim models have a larger ~9” unit from what appears to be Pioneer’s Carrozzeria line.

The models shown for NA market had a very ‘Subaru starlink’ looking headunit with a ~8” screen and physical volume/seeking knobs. I doubt there will be a difference between trims besides the rear speakers.

Stonehorsw 08-08-2021 09:19 AM

HU
 
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Does no harmonize with the interior. Seems like one more win to GR.

Yoshoobaroo 08-08-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonehorsw (Post 3455052)
Does no harmonize with the interior. Seems like one more win to GR.


That’s a bold take when we haven’t seen the Toyota headunit yet, could be exactly the same, with a different software skin. Like on the Supra.

Stonehorsw 08-08-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455053)
That’s a bold take when we haven’t seen the Toyota headunit yet, could be exactly the same, with a different software skin. Like on the Supra.

I used the ones I saw in videos from Japan. But, as someone mentioned, HU may be different when comes to US market.
I doubt that will be worse than Subaru’s.

So far, balancing everything, I am with BRZ, but aesthetically the GR is looking better.

Yoshoobaroo 08-08-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonehorsw (Post 3455055)
I used the ones I saw in videos from Japan. But, as someone mentioned, HU may be different when comes to US market.
I doubt that will be worse than Subaru’s.

So far, balancing everything, I am with BRZ, but aesthetically the GR is looking better.


As I said before, all Japanese cars have had aftermarket units. That’s won’t be the case in NA, as that would be a huge turnoff for the average NA customer. It will be a more OEM unit.

Considering the trouble Toyota has had integrating their last headunit properly into Subaru’s amp, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same Subaru unit with a different software skin, especially considering Toyota has been much more hands-off on this car than the 1st Gen.

Stonehorsw 08-08-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KittenMittens (Post 3455099)
Harmonize? Who cares about that? The real win here is they didn't go all in on a full touchscreen interface and all the main controls for the radio/ac are still tactile buttons and knobs, etc.

If none cared, there would be no one working on that :)
Which is not what happens during vehicle development. I used harmonize instead of ugly as ^%#}, but I am sure you got it.

Stonehorsw 08-08-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455056)
As I said before, all Japanese cars have had aftermarket units. That’s won’t be the case in NA, as that would be a huge turnoff for the average NA customer. It will be a more OEM unit.

Considering the trouble Toyota has had integrating their last headunit properly into Subaru’s amp, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same Subaru unit with a different software skin, especially considering Toyota has been much more hands-off on this car than the 1st Gen.

How does it work with the aftermarket units in Japan? Comes without a unit and people select?

Yoshoobaroo 08-08-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonehorsw (Post 3455115)
How does it work with the aftermarket units in Japan? Comes without a unit and people select?


Pretty much. Dealers install them IIRC. They have a few recommended ones but any standard unit goes.

soundman98 08-08-2021 07:27 PM

i wish they gave us that option in the states on all vehicles...

Sport-Tech 08-09-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KittenMittens (Post 3455099)
Harmonize? Who cares about that? The real win here is they didn't go all in on a full touchscreen interface and all the main controls for the radio/ac are still tactile buttons and knobs, etc.

Bingo. There's been a huge hue and cry from reviewers of the new Mk 8 Golf GTI and R about their button-free, touch-and-slide haptic interfaces.

mazeroni 08-09-2021 11:32 AM

US GR and BRZ press release photos show the same touchscreen. The 8" unit is standard, regardless of trim. Not sure about outside regions.

https://www.netcarshow.com/Toyota-GR...22-1280-13.jpg
https://www.netcarshow.com/Subaru-BRZ-2022-1280-1d.jpg

The Toyota version seems to show the CarPlay interface, while if you squint, the BRZ shows the Starlink UI. It would be easy for Toyota is replace the frontend interface, but they could also just go with Starlink for simplicity.

dragoontwo 08-09-2021 12:03 PM

Not sure what market those cars are actually for. The GR units are all metric, not sure on the BRZ. The GR also has folding mirrors, and I'm not sure that's actually going to be offered in the USDM.

Found this on Toyota's website:

https://toyota-cms-media.s3.amazonaw...-1500x1000.jpg

Yoshoobaroo 08-09-2021 01:08 PM

Infotainment differences?
 
Sheeesh. So much for another win for GR. That harmonizes really badly with the Toyotas interior, much worse than the Subaru one.

/s

Stonehorsw 08-09-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455292)
Sheeesh. So much for another win for GR. That harmonizes really badly with the Toyotas interior, much worse than the Subaru one.

/s

Ha.

dragoontwo 08-09-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455292)
Sheeesh. So much for another win for GR. That harmonizes really badly with the Toyotas interior, much worse than the Subaru one.

/s

Should I mention that Toyota's press release stated that all GR models are getting start/stop?

Yoshoobaroo 08-09-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3455326)
Should I mention that Toyota's press release stated that all GR models are getting start/stop?


Makes sense, since all the Subaru’s do too.

dragoontwo 08-09-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455339)
Makes sense, since all the Subaru’s do too.

Is there any promo material on the BRZ that states it? I haven't seen any in the latest press release materials.


Eta: I went back and looked, and I misread the Toyota release. It actually says smart stop technology, and not start stop. Disregard what I said before.

Yoshoobaroo 08-09-2021 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3455352)
Is there any promo material on the BRZ that states it? I haven't seen any in the latest press release materials.


Eta: I went back and looked, and I misread the Toyota release. It actually says smart stop technology, and not start stop. Disregard what I said before.


Still, all interior shots have shown start buttons, regardless of brand/trim level. Likely the cost is low enough these days that complicating the assembly line flow with another option isn’t worth it.

This way they all get the same door handles, same antennas all around, and the same dash trims and cluster/immobilizer programming.

dragoontwo 08-09-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3455365)
Still, all interior shots have shown start buttons, regardless of brand/trim level. Likely the cost is low enough these days that complicating the assembly line flow with another option isn’t worth it.

This way they all get the same door handles, same antennas all around, and the same dash trims and cluster/immobilizer programming.

You're misunderstanding me. I thought it meant auto stop/start. I was wrong.

Yoshoobaroo 08-09-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3455374)
You're misunderstanding me. I thought it meant auto stop/start. I was wrong.


Got it

LanceLane174 09-08-2021 04:33 PM

Has anyone read anything about the stereo system yet? I have heard 6 speakers in premium and 8 in the Limited. And some whispers about an amp in the Limited. But I am wondering if all of that is true and whether we will be able to add the sub from the 2022.


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