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trippinbillies40 07-22-2021 12:23 PM

Pricing released and orders open!
 
$27,995 for base 6mt, base auto with Eyesight is $29,995.

Limited 6mt is $30,495, auto is $32,295.

Limited adds upgraded audio, 18" wheels with Pilot Sport 4 tires, Ultrasuede seats, heated seats and side mirrors, steering responsive headlights, blind spot detection, and available Starlink telematics.

8" headunit and dual zone climate control are standard!

Orders open today!

SeanWilke 07-22-2021 01:17 PM

Looks like pricing and reservations are set up here: https://www.subaru.com/2022-brz

DaffyDOHC 07-22-2021 01:20 PM

Oh wow! Thanks for the heads up!

trippinbillies40 07-22-2021 01:21 PM

Reservations will have to go through a retailer. Orders open at 3pm EST today. I'm thinking the website will update at that point. Available port and retailer-installed accessories haven't been sent out to the stores yet.

Kona61 07-22-2021 01:54 PM

Good lord! That's even more reasonable than I was hoping for. It's actually cheaper than a 2020 BRZ (granted that's limited trim).

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2021 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona61 (Post 3451000)
limited


The only trim. [emoji6]

timurrrr 07-22-2021 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona61 (Post 3451000)
It's actually cheaper than a 2020 BRZ (granted that's limited trim).

2020 BRZ Limited starts at $28845
2022 BRZ Limited starts at $30495 ?

https://i.imgur.com/aYrwVie.png

Sasquachulator 07-22-2021 03:43 PM

Looks like its the same price as Canadian base BRZ (27,995)

Which would mean it'l be a couple thousand higher than first gen.

Veloist 07-22-2021 03:59 PM

You guys might have forgotten...the 2020 BRZ did not have a Premium model.

The fact that the 2022 BRZ has a Premium model means that pricing does start below a 2020 BRZ (since the 2020 BRZ was pretty much 1 trim level with the choice of transmission, performance package, or no performance package).

Anyways I ordered two cars for my dealer...a Crystal White Pearl Limited 6MT and Sapphire Blue 6MT. Excited to see the BRZ in a dark blue again.

Veloist 07-22-2021 04:13 PM

New accessories that can be added when ordered (port installed accessories):

STI Shift knob
All-Weather Floor Liners
Door Edge Guards
Door Scuff Protector
Black Wheel Locks
Exterior Graphics Kit
Vortex Generator

Notable available Retail Accessories:

STI Push Engine Switch
STI Front Under Spoiler
STI Rear Quarter Under Spoiler
STI Side Under Spoiler
Fender Vent Accent
Trunk Spoiler
Rear Bumper Diffuser

Kona61 07-22-2021 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3451021)
2020 BRZ Limited starts at $28845
2022 BRZ Limited starts at $30495 ?

https://i.imgur.com/aYrwVie.png

I mean that you can get a BRZ for cheaper period, the 2020 only came as a Limited. No base option.

Kona61 07-22-2021 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3451028)
New accessories that can be added when ordered (port installed accessories):

STI Shift knob
All-Weather Floor Liners
Door Edge Guards
Door Scuff Protector
Black Wheel Locks
Exterior Graphics Kit
Vortex Generator

Notable available Retail Accessories:

STI Push Engine Switch
STI Front Under Spoiler
STI Rear Quarter Under Spoiler
STI Side Under Spoiler
Fender Vent Accent
Trunk Spoiler
Rear Bumper Diffuser

I hope they eventually make lowering springs that won't void my warranty. Had enough of that heartache on my A90 when I put H&R springs on.

Tcoat 07-22-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona61 (Post 3451036)
I mean that you can get a BRZ for cheaper period, the 2020 only came as a Limited. No base option.

To do an apples to apples comparison you would have to go back to 2019 when there was a base Premium. They were stickered at $25,795 so yes you can get "a" BRZ cheaper than a 2020 but it is not the same level so comparing price is a waste of time. Comparing model against model there has been a increase across the board but it isn't anything massive nor unexpected. In fact it is quite reasonable for the changes that were made.

Sport-Tech 07-22-2021 05:27 PM

Looks like there is no oil temp or pressure display. From the Subaru presser:
Quote:

Flanking the tachometer on the left, a programmable meter can display amps, coolant temperature or Lateral-G. When Track Mode is selected, the tachometer switches from a traditional circular form to a linear graph with color display.

timurrrr 07-22-2021 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona61 (Post 3451036)
I mean that you can get a BRZ for cheaper period, the 2020 only came as a Limited. No base option.

True. It looks like the last MY with the Premium trim in the US was 2018?
If we had the Premium trim in the US for 2020 MY, I'm sure it would be slightly cheaper than $27995.

I personally prefer apples-to-apples comparison, rather than "what was the cheapest before and what is the cheapest now".
2020 Limited vs 2022 Limited there's a clear increase.
Otherwise, one could argue that a more cost-effective option to get
a BRZ back in 2020 was to buy used :P

timurrrr 07-22-2021 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 3451048)
Looks like there is no oil temp [...] display. From the Subaru presser:

https://i.imgur.com/Q00ZJBP.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 3451048)
or pressure

Probably still no sensor.

MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires 07-22-2021 05:51 PM

are they really not offering the adaptive cc with manual transmission?

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2021 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires (Post 3451060)
are they really not offering the adaptive cc with manual transmission?


Subaru’s adaptive cruise control relies on eyesight. Eyesight is not compatible with a manual transmission. Even if it’s for stupid reasons, it’s not compatible.

Sasquachulator 07-22-2021 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 3451048)
Looks like there is no oil temp or pressure display. From the Subaru presser:

I think it has the exact same available display options as the 17+ models with the 4 in screen on the dash, just a few things got relocated.

MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires 07-22-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3451061)
Subaru’s adaptive cruise control relies on eyesight. Eyesight is not compatible with a manual transmission. Even if it’s for stupid reasons, it’s not compatible.

lame!

Kona61 07-22-2021 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3451044)
To do an apples to apples comparison you would have to go back to 2019 when there was a base Premium. They were stickered at $25,795 so yes you can get "a" BRZ cheaper than a 2020 but it is not the same level so comparing price is a waste of time. Comparing model against model there has been a increase across the board but it isn't anything massive nor unexpected. In fact it is quite reasonable for the changes that were made.

Well yes that's true, but standard equipment also seems much better for the new 86. So, for me I say the comparison would lie somewhere between the old base and old limited. Regardless, the pricepoint is very reasonable to me.

trippinbillies40 07-22-2021 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KittenMittens (Post 3451065)
November

Not sure I agree with this assessment :)

trippinbillies40 07-22-2021 07:52 PM

Color options:

Crystal Black Silica
Crystal White Pearl
Sapphire Blue
Magnetite Grey Metallic
Ice Silver Metallic
World Rally Blue PEarl
Ignition Red (pretty close to pure red on the current Crosstrek)

Retailer-installed accessories are getting announced to the stores tomorrow.

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2021 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona61 (Post 3451069)
standard equipment also seems much better for the new 86.

Can you elaborate? I haven’t seen GR86 specs

itschris 07-22-2021 10:33 PM

Not sure if it's been posted, here's the spec sheet from subaru (see attached files, bottom right): https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...l-new-2022-brz

Not much info, but we're back to a 4.1 diff and CoG height is stated at 17.95 in. Old 2013 spec sheet for comparison here: https://www.subaru.ca/content/7907/M...%2012%20EN.pdf

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2021 10:41 PM

Aww no more spare tire..

timurrrr 07-22-2021 11:09 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by itschris (Post 3451126)
Not sure if it's been posted, here's the spec sheet from subaru (see attached files, bottom right):
https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...l-new-2022-brz

NICE find!
I've attached the current versions of the "Specifications" and "At a glance" PDFs from the right section of that page.

In case anyone was still unsure, the 12.5:1 compression rate is now official.

timurrrr 07-22-2021 11:16 PM

"4-wheel disc with Electric vacuum pump power assist"
Is this different from what it was before?

timurrrr 07-22-2021 11:18 PM

"New for 2022, the standard Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) now allows two sets of
wheels to be ID registered. This allows the owner to switch to seasonal tires without the need of
changing the tires on the original wheels."


Seasonal tires, of course.

itschris 07-22-2021 11:24 PM

Flexible flywheel... that's new right?

zeroomega 07-22-2021 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3451140)
"4-wheel disc with Electric vacuum pump power assist"
Is this different from what it was before?

I think OG AT BRZ has an electric vacuum pump but the MT should be just using intake vacuum. Not quite sure about the benefit for switching to a electric model? More stable brake pressure when doing heel toe?

Jianlun 07-23-2021 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3451131)
Aww no more spare tire..

and yet it is already 20kg heavier than 2012 (i couldnt help myself, had to compare the 2012 and 2022 specs line by line muahahah). which means the extra 75kg that they gained due to crash regs etc which are "almost negated by the alu roof and fenders" is really only offset by say 45kg.


other comparisons:
1. same MT gear ratios
2. same brake rotor diameters! so that means AP Essex Sprint again!
3. slightly steering angle ? (f you multiply the steering lock with the rack ratio and compare, new lock > old lock ie. 13.5 x 2.5 > 13.12 x 2.48). i probably reading too much into it here haha.
4. slightly narrower front track? new vs old = 1519mm vs 1520mm. doesnt matter cos et42 is going onto mine muahaha.
5. wider rear track. new vs old = 1549mm vs 1540mm. same et42 going on muahahaha.

Jianlun 07-23-2021 01:12 AM

Found the below from here https://motor--fan-jp.translate.goog...o=ajax,nv,elem

Aluminum front fender: -3.0kg
Aluminum front housing: -3.0kg
Aluminum roof panel: -2.0kg
Hollow front stabilizer: -0.5kg
Weight reduction of muffler: -1.6kg
Weight reduction of front seat: -2.6kg
Weight reduction of propeller shaft: -1.1kg

Yoshoobaroo 07-23-2021 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jianlun (Post 3451155)
and yet it is already 20kg heavier than 2012 (i couldnt help myself, had to compare the 2012 and 2022 specs line by line muahahah). which means the extra 75kg that they gained due to crash regs etc which are "almost negated by the alu roof and fenders" is really only offset by say 45kg.

Honestly gaining 75kg due to crash structure and shaving that back down to 20kg is impressive. I don't think many of us will notice a 20kg increase.

Sasquachulator 07-23-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3451193)
Honestly gaining 75kg due to crash structure and shaving that back down to 20kg is impressive. I don't think many of us will notice a 20kg increase.

If people can notice the torque dip in every speed condition, the 5hp increase, and any other butt dyno statistics, then they will notice 20kg difference EASY!!1

everyone's an internet vehicle R&D expert.

mazeroni 07-23-2021 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3451131)
Aww no more spare tire..

If that's the case, then that partly explains the weight loss.


From https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7881
OEM spare tire with liner foam= 25.8 lbs.
OEM trunk tools, jack, tow hook= 5.8 lbs.

That is 31.6 lbs alone.

Yoshoobaroo 07-23-2021 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 3451211)
If that's the case, then that partly explains the weight loss.


From https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7881
OEM spare tire with liner foam= 25.8 lbs.
OEM trunk tools, jack, tow hook= 5.8 lbs.

That is 31.6 lbs alone.


Yea the tire repair kit is way lighter. Looks like they’ve pulled out all the stops to keep it light.

That said, I can’t think of a single car that came out in the last 10 years that I know comes with a spare. The inflator kit is standard now, if you even get anything at all besides runflats.

GraysonGreene 07-23-2021 11:03 AM

Hope they have an accessory subwoofer again! I love my Subaru Accessory 10" Kicker.

Also kinda miffed about the lack of the spare tire. I'd rather have a slightly heavier car and remove the spare at the track :iono:. I know barely anyone has to use their spare, however, when you loose a tire 100+ miles away from home and the tow bill is $100+ you'll be wishing you had that spare.

Sasquachulator 07-23-2021 11:27 AM

surprised they didnt increase the cargo space with the removal of the spare tire.

Typical of manufacturers though, they just fill the spare tire well with a foam block with tools and a fix-a-flat kit.

Jianlun 07-23-2021 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraysonGreene (Post 3451216)
Hope they have an accessory subwoofer again! I love my Subaru Accessory 10" Kicker.

Also kinda miffed about the lack of the spare tire. I'd rather have a slightly heavier car and remove the spare at the track :iono:. I know barely anyone has to use their spare, however, when you loose a tire 100+ miles away from home and the tow bill is $100+ you'll be wishing you had that spare.


saw in one of the vids that the spare tyre well is still there. a circular shape that seems to suggest one can put in a say 17x7 wheel there if needed? or the spare tyre from the previous gen (how will that sound in an interview Q and A! "because we know many owners would have had a 2012/2016 before").


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