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vh_supra26 07-06-2021 08:34 PM

The all-new BMW 2 Series Coupé
 
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...ies-coup%C3%A9

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/oR...ies-lineup.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/3y...ies-lineup.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Jl...de-profile.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/rM...ar-quarter.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/6L...nt-quarter.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/R0...front-view.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/VA...-rear-view.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/KP...de-profile.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/0o...ar-quarter.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/2g...front-view.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/gY...nt-quarter.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Y8...front-view.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/jz...-dashboard.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/R0...t-selector.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/MB...door-panel.jpg
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/x7...at-details.jpg

NoHaveMSG 07-06-2021 09:11 PM

Not going to lie, I dig the purple.

Kiske 07-06-2021 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3447111)
Not going to lie, I dig the purple.


+1 much better than that yellow-gold they were doing everything in a few years back. Sad to see another car has dropped the manual trans option though.

Sasquachulator 07-07-2021 08:41 AM

Its almost as big as a 3 series now....just a few inches shy?
3500-3800+ lbs.....

wtf?

And those taillights look awful.

Irace86.2.0 07-07-2021 08:54 AM

Very E30 M3 with the fenders.

https://www.topgear.com/sites/defaul...-12-scaled.jpg
https://www.bmw-m.com/content/dam/bm...7677254045.jpg
https://www.bmw-m.com/content/dam/bm...gallery-01.jpg

GraysonGreene 07-07-2021 08:58 AM

Is it just me or is BMW going for "shock factor" with their new designs. I feel like they're going with more risky design choices to gain publicity/stand out. Do a lot of people actually like their new design language?

Yoshoobaroo 07-07-2021 09:44 AM

Tail lights look like upside down 2017 twins tail lights.

Sasquachulator 07-07-2021 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3447210)
Tail lights look like upside down 2017 twins tail lights.

BMW's taillight game on this new generation of cars have been pretty bad.

The 2 series gran coupe has these SUV looking tails that look horrible.
Then they put them on the actual SUV's (seen on X4 and X6) and they still look horrible.
The 3 and 4 series tails are ripped off from Lexus so it actually looks like a Lexus from the rear.

Wally86 07-07-2021 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3447191)

And those taillights look awful.


I like the tails for one reason... they remind me of that one emoji...

^-^

LOL. It's a happy tail end! :bonk:




And I see what they're doing with the front grill. They added the bottom holes so later they can delete the center cross bar and give us the same nasty, distended grills from the M4.

Dzmitry 07-07-2021 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiske (Post 3447115)
+1 much better than that yellow-gold they were doing everything in a few years back. Sad to see another car has dropped the manual trans option though.

Interesting, I figured most people liked the Austin Yellow. I personally thought it had an exotic touch to it. But I guess that's any fun new color to me that looks good on a car. This purple looks good though!

ZDan 07-07-2021 11:25 AM

Giant heavy car with squished-down interior space. Perfectly good German Camaro/Mustang/Challenger, I guess...

Yoshoobaroo 07-07-2021 11:36 AM

The 1/2 series was never light, that’s always been my beef with it. It was always a shortened 3 series and only 100-150lbs lighter than it. The lightest one ever made was 3250lbs (E87 128i).

DarkSunrise 07-07-2021 11:48 AM

I don’t like a lot of modern automotive design (especially BMW), but the proportions on this side profile shot are amazing. :wub:.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Jl...de-profile.jpg

mazeroni 07-07-2021 11:57 AM

Personally not a fan. Too many different shapes and lines. The profile itself is good, but the details, like all modern BMWs, are bad.

The taillights don't work, BMW seems to want to force triangular shapes on the front of all their cars, and why is there is hard line behind the front wheel that doesn't go anywhere or do anything - maybe it is there for the M2?

But hey, that's how it is. Here is a rendering of the new 7 Series based on spyshots. BMW is doing BMW to the extreme.

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...W-7-Series.jpg

gymratter 07-07-2021 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 3447249)
I don’t like a lot of modern automotive design (especially BMW), but the proportions on this side profile shot are amazing. :wub:.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Jl...de-profile.jpg

agree, proportion wise this would probably been a better base for the Supra.

Yoshoobaroo 07-07-2021 01:49 PM

The all-new BMW 2 Series Coupé
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 3447277)
agree, proportion wise this would probably been a base for the Supra.


Fun fact, early A90 Supra mules were disguised as 2 series.

gymratter 07-07-2021 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3447278)
Fun fact, early J29 Supra mules were disguised as 2 series.

yes sir

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/myst...00494492_h.jpg

Yoshoobaroo 07-07-2021 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 3447287)


Huh. TIL J29 is the proper chassis code.

Ash_89 07-07-2021 04:46 PM

I'm really uninterested in BMWs, they used to be so classy and desirable to me some +8 years ago now they are almost universally styled with spite in mind.

The "face"/front of a car should be appealing even if it isn't a conventionally attractive, the way they style the kidney grill whether elongated or stretched horizontally is just so horrible, then the "eyes" (front and rear) on this are just comical.

Comical, horrifying and depressing sums the brand up to me.

While I don't have a good academic handle on these matters I would be so interested to see a case study on the shift of the brands image and how different consumers perceive it, I suppose there is a majority (new and younger customers) who just view it as a luxury brand so will lap it up even if it caused cancer but this has to be destructive to their long term customers which companies should be trying to retain. No?

The ongoing demise of the ICE, the push for ever higher and unusable performance, styling for the visually impaired and the prices of new cars all make me rather depressed.

Apologies for the rant.

Yoshoobaroo 07-07-2021 05:08 PM

The all-new BMW 2 Series Coupé
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash_89 (Post 3447319)
I'm really uninterested in BMWs, they used to be so classy and desirable to me some +8 years ago now they are almost universally styled with spite in mind.

The "face"/front of a car should be appealing even if it isn't a conventionally attractive, the way they style the kidney grill whether elongated or stretched horizontally is just so horrible, then the "eyes" (front and rear) on this are just comical.

Comical, horrifying and depressing sums the brand up to me.

While I don't have a good academic handle on these matters I would be so interested to see a case study on the shift of the brands image and how different consumers perceive it, I suppose there is a majority (new and younger customers) who just view it as a luxury brand so will lap it up even if it caused cancer but this has to be destructive to their long term customers which companies should be trying to retain. No?

The ongoing demise of the ICE, the push for ever higher and unusable performance, styling for the visually impaired and the prices of new cars all make me rather depressed.

Apologies for the rant.


As a long time BMW enthusiast I agree. I can’t think of a single BMW introduced in the last 5 years that appeals to me. The last one that does is the 6 Gran coupe, but that got the axe in 2019.

The brand as a whole has lost its way, not just in styling. The F series cars (~2010 on) drive worse than the ones that came before. Gone is the well-weighted steering and feedback. They hide behind the electric PS but forget that the 2004 Z4 had EPS and they were great. Manuals are gone unless you shell out a minimum of 85K on an M car. Most of them weigh about 500 lbs more than they did 10 years ago and they drive like it. Yea sure they’re faster but that’s but the point. If this is the future I don’t like it.

This is why the continuation of the BRZ/GR86 is so great to me, some car companies actually still care.

Wally86 07-08-2021 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3447393)
this actually looks pretty cool

Or like a crying pig from angry birds... :iono:

Wally86 07-08-2021 09:21 AM

In case you don't see it.



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...23faf28f_b.jpg










And in case you still don't see it... you have to see what I see now.



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bf3287b4_b.jpg

mn_ca 07-08-2021 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3447329)
As a long time BMW enthusiast I agree. I can’t think of a single BMW introduced in the last 5 years that appeals to me. The last one that does is the 6 Gran coupe, but that got the axe in 2019.

For me, the last BMW that appealed to me was the e46. It was my dream car in high school. I've been trying to find a nice clean example with low miles but prices have skyrocketed :mad0259:

Captain Snooze 07-08-2021 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally86 (Post 3447485)
Or like a crying pig from angry birds... :iono:

The first thing that popped into my head was Robocop lol.

Red-86 07-11-2021 05:36 AM

I actually really like the profile of the new 2 series, especially from the side. It is longer, wider and lower, which gives it a sportier stance. The current 2 series always looked a little short, tall and frumpy to me. Can’t wait to see what the new M2 will be like.

Having said that, whilst I approve of the new shape, the details like lights and vents are a bit off. The headlights and taillights are a bit ugly, and the triangular vents on the M sport looks weird and wonky - the normal non-M sport looks cleaner.

I find it annoying that the M240i comes only as X drive in Australia if I heard correctly. I really prefer RWD, even if it is slightly slower to 100 and in the 1/4 mile.

Red-86 07-11-2021 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 3447249)
I don’t like a lot of modern automotive design (especially BMW), but the proportions on this side profile shot are amazing. :wub:.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Jl...de-profile.jpg

I agree. I know people are mad that it has grown longer and wider, but combined with the lower roof height and that lovely long bonnet, the new 2 series coupe looks so much better and more muscular than the ugly new 4 series coupe, which just looks soft and awkward. There is no way I’d take an M4 over the new M2.


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