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gymratter 04-05-2021 03:05 AM

World Premiere of All-New Toyota GR 86 (Europe)
 
https://newsroom.toyota.eu/world-pre...all-new-gr-86/

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World Premiere of All-New GR 86
  • Faithful to the fun to drive characteristic concept of its predecessor
  • Responsive and engaging with light weight, low centre of gravity and agile handling
  • 3rd model in GR sports car line-up, joining widely-acclaimed GR Supra and GR Yaris
  • New 2.4-litre horizontally opposed four-cylinder engine delivers increased performance

The eagerly anticipated all-new GR 86 made its global debut today at a joint online event between TOYOTA GAZOO Racing and Subaru Corporation. Toyota’s latest sports car offering complements the GR portfolio, featuring the widely-acclaimed GR Supra and GR Yaris, as the third global GR model.

The new GR 86 inherits the key fun to drive characteristics of the original GT86, launched in 2012 and went on to sell over 200,000 units worldwide. It is expected to be the lightest four-seater coupé in the segment thanks to a wide range of weight saving initiatives such as the use of aluminium roof and body panels.

Powered by a new lightweight horizontally opposed four-cylinder engine which is increased to 2.4-litre displacement, the performance of the GR 86 is stepped up from its predecessor.

The dimensions of the new GR 86 are almost identical to the GT86, allowing the new model to maintain a low centre of gravity for enhanced agility. Torsional rigidity has also been increased by some 50% compared to the GT86 to deliver even sharper handling and steering ability.

Functional aerodynamic components such as the front air ducts and side rocker panels, among others, were developed from the model’s participation in motorsport, helping the GR 86 achieve expected best in class handling and stability.

The all-new GR 86 will be launched in Europe. More details will follow later this year.
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steel86gt 04-05-2021 06:55 AM

Just beautiful ! Will trade in my gen1 for one! Now to decide which color...

weederr33 04-05-2021 08:42 AM

I love the front bumper design but I can't get over that horrendous rear end. Otherwise, I like what I see and can't wait to see one in person!

weederr33 04-05-2021 09:22 AM

I really like the new GR86 front end. Just wish they had different headlights to differentiate the two cars a tad more like they've been doing. Otherwise, I plan to look at one when they are out! :happyanim:

HKz 04-05-2021 09:33 AM

Yay, think it looks great and perhaps it was already discovered from the subie launch but I'm sure glad manuals didn't get inundated with the extra safety gear. I hope they bring Hot Lava back otherwise gonna be hard as hell to choose a color.

Transport3r 04-05-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3419817)
Yay, think it looks great and perhaps it was already discovered from the subie launch but I'm sure glad manuals didn't get inundated with the extra safety gear. I hope they bring Hot Lava back otherwise gonna be hard as hell to choose a color.


I don’t necessarily want eyesight but radar cruise control would be nice to have. VW has had a complete ‘eyesight-like’ system on manual cars since the introduction of the MK 7 GTI. That was a while ago.

None of these would make me ditch the manual though.

Transport3r 04-05-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3419817)
Yay, think it looks great and perhaps it was already discovered from the subie launch but I'm sure glad manuals didn't get inundated with the extra safety gear. I hope they bring Hot Lava back otherwise gonna be hard as hell to choose a color.


I don’t necessarily want eyesight but radar cruise control would be nice to have. VW has had a complete ‘eyesight-like’ system on manual cars since the introduction of the MK 7 GTI. That was a while ago.

None of these would make me ditch the manual though.

Transport3r 04-05-2021 10:32 AM

lol am I the only one that likes the rear end?

SUB-FT86 04-05-2021 12:30 PM

At some angles I see F type Jag in the GR86 front end

Tcoat 04-05-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 3419908)
At some angles I see F type Jag in the GR86 front end

If you squint hard enough you can see almost any modern sports car made. The laws of physics mean there are a handful of aero designs that are the most effective. That so many cars share some of those lines is not coincidence. The designers can go for effect or radically different looks but in the end there will be a bunch of cars that are roughly the same.

SUB-FT86 04-05-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r (Post 3419840)
lol am I the only one that likes the rear end?

I prefer it to mine. I never loved the first gen taillights shape

Transport3r 04-05-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 3419985)
I prefer it to mine. I never loved the first gen taillights shape


Same. They cut weirdly into the trunk lid and it was never really clear to me why. I even switched to facelift tails and then back again because they didn’t fix the problem in person.

mazeroni 04-05-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r (Post 3419840)
lol am I the only one that likes the rear end?

It is certainly more mature and overall more cohesive. With the 1st gen, they kind of gave up at the rear either due to time or money constraints.

https://i.ibb.co/PrBNPRD/frs-gr86-comparison.jpg

Although I admit to liking the "made in the basement" aesthetic. It certainly had a unique look.

But I'm not a fan of the side skirts with the GEN 2. That looks like an afterthought. Gen 1 is cleaner down the side.

Sasquachulator 04-05-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 3419999)
It is certainly more mature and overall more cohesive. With the 1st gen, they kind of gave up at the rear either due to time or money constraints.

https://i.ibb.co/PrBNPRD/frs-gr86-comparison.jpg

Although I admit to liking the "made in the basement" aesthetic. It certainly had a unique look.

But I'm not a fan of the side skirts with the GEN 2. That looks like an afterthought. Gen 1 is cleaner down the side.

The 2017+ refresh has way better taillights than the original release. Even if it does look somewhat similar to aftermarket offerings.

i feel like the first gen has more "character" to it, like an individual personality. The second gen is "Grown up" and now kind of like every other person in a suit.

Also...i want to see more colours. Red, White, Blue, grey/silver has been seen between the twins. Would like to see if the rest of the colour lineup is the same.

SUB-FT86 04-05-2021 04:31 PM

I would keep my first gen and buy the second gen but they would be both different in that my first gen would stay boosted at 305whp and I would aim for 230whp(270-280hp) with bolt ons and flexfuel. 2800lbs and 275-280hp is the same power to weight of a 370z.

gymratter 06-24-2021 05:25 PM

Toyota GR 86 to Make World Dynamic Debut at the 2021 Goodwood Festival of Speed
 
https://media.toyota.co.uk/toyota-gr...ival-of-speed/

The new Toyota GR 86, one of the world’s most keenly anticipated performance cars, will make its on-road debut this summer at the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

The coupe’s launch is set to create a new “Power of Three” trio of global models developed with TOYOTA GAZOO Racing, benefiting from the same motorsports-inspired engineering and design prowess as the critically acclaimed GR Supra and GR Yaris.

GR 86’s appearance at the Festival of Speed, to be held in the grounds of Goodwood House in West Sussex from 8 to 11 July, is an early public preview prior to the car going on sale in the UK during 2022. Running in the festival’s “First Glimpse” showcase for upcoming exciting and exclusive road cars, it will demonstrate its handling and agility on Goodwood’s famous hill course, in the hands of an expert driver. Festival go-ers will be able to see the car driven on the famous Goodwood Hill and get up close to it in the First Glance Paddock.

First revealed in an online presentation in April this year, GR 86 develops the qualities that made GT86 a multi-award-winning success as a car that delivered the purest joys of driving.

The new car will maintain the core characteristics of its predecessor; a fun, accessible and easy to drive sports coupe which rewards driver input.

It retains a classic front engine, rear-wheel drive configuration, but adopts a new and more powerful 2.4-litre horizontally opposed four-cylinder engine. Its dimensions are almost identical to its predecessor, but a 50 per cent increase in torsional rigidity helps achieve sharper handling and steering, while a focus on weight-saving, including using aluminium for the roof and body panels, should make it the lightest four-seat coupe in its class (provisional kerb weight is 1,270kg).

Details derived directly from TOYOTA GAZOO Racing’s motorsports activities include precisely designed aero parts, such as the front air ducts and rocker panels. The suspension features front MacPherson struts and rear double wishbones and the car rides on 18-inch wheels fitted with 215/40R18 tyres. The new model has been jointly developed by Toyota Motor Corporation and Subaru Corporation, following a new business and capital alliance between the two companies, agreed in September 2019.

GR 86 follows the example of the Toyota GR Supra in making its world dynamic debut at the Festival of Speed, the two-seat coupe having been presented on-track at Goodwood in 2018. The Toyota GT86 also made an early appearance at Goodwood as one of the star newcomers at the 2012 festival, ahead of its market launch later that year. GT86 went on to amass around 200,000 worldwide sales and featured in many different forms of motorsport, including GT racing, rallying and one-make series.

Toyota will announce details of further activities at the 2021 Festival of Speed in the coming weeks, and more details about the GR 86 will be unveiled nearer its launch.

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beltax90 06-24-2021 05:48 PM

beautiful! it looks so good in white!

HKz 06-24-2021 05:55 PM

are eu cars expected to have headlight washers? i still don't get the point of them especially since how often would you come to a point where just your headlights were filthy enough not to warrant a general car wash? plus you would think NA models get it standard over EU since we do more driving out here..

Yoshoobaroo 06-24-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3444394)
are eu cars expected to have headlight washers? i still don't get the point of them especially since how often would you come to a point where just your headlights were filthy enough not to warrant a general car wash? plus you would think NA models get it standard over EU since we do more driving out here..


Yes. They work really well in snowy conditions since they’re usually heated these days.

StE92ve 06-25-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3444394)
are eu cars expected to have headlight washers? i still don't get the point of them especially since how often would you come to a point where just your headlights were filthy enough not to warrant a general car wash? plus you would think NA models get it standard over EU since we do more driving out here..

Never ever used the headlight washers on my BMW.

Dzmitry 06-25-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve (Post 3444591)
Never ever used the headlight washers on my BMW.

Well maybe you should have! ;)

Sasquachulator 06-25-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve (Post 3444591)
Never ever used the headlight washers on my BMW.

dont they automatically activate when you activate the windshield wipers?

meaning you have used them before? lol

Tcoat 06-25-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve (Post 3444591)
Never ever used the headlight washers on my BMW.

Or the directional signals?

StE92ve 06-25-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3444633)
dont they automatically activate when you activate the windshield wipers?

meaning you have used them before? lol

Nope....


They only spray the headlights when your lights are on and you pull the wiper stalk all the way back.

StE92ve 06-25-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3444635)
Or the directional signals?


That is correct. Only drove in a straight line.

Tcoat 06-25-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StE92ve (Post 3444660)
That is correct. Only drove in a straight line.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/6e...1e04fc4848.jpg

pzerok 06-26-2021 02:22 AM

I'm getting more excited the more details I find out about it, especially with the body improvements...I can't believe they're doing even MORE to handling...I'm really looking forward to test driving this.

PandaEighty-Six 06-29-2021 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3419803)
I love the front bumper design but I can't get over that horrendous rear end. Otherwise, I like what I see and can't wait to see one in person!

The rear works in some pictures/videos. But I fear it won't age well. We'll see.

gymratter 07-13-2021 02:28 AM

86 starts at 4:17

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-c...unches-at-fos/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niA1hP6Hiak

beltax90 07-15-2021 11:06 AM

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Dzmitry 07-16-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3449332)
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Haha, neat.

boy_racer 09-07-2021 01:12 PM

Has anyone seen estimated C02 anywhere?Maybe from japanese versions that are already available in japan?

boy_racer 10-08-2021 04:00 AM

Spotted in Spain,we may see some movement from Toyota soon!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUj_lsXo...dium=copy_link

nikitopo 10-11-2021 11:17 AM

Subscribed

mazeroni 10-23-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jortegaa3289 (Post 3474865)
I just love this car in red color and the bumper design, Interior is average but overall the car is awesome.

Bright colors really make the black accents stand out, especially the fender vents.

I would normally say white is so boring because every crossover you see is white, but it really looks good on the GR86. The red is sharp too.

boy_racer 11-05-2021 11:09 AM

Co2
 
Here is the only mention on C02 i have found on the internet!

GR86 6AT japan specs comes at 198gr/km

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/atta...1&d=1636121080

nikitopo 11-07-2021 03:06 AM

AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

alex87f 11-07-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boy_racer (Post 3471751)
Spotted in Spain,we may see some movement from Toyota soon!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUj_lsXo...dium=copy_link

They might just be looking for press shots for RoW markets though ;-)

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Originally Posted by boy_racer (Post 3478974)
Here is the only mention on C02 i have found on the internet!

GR86 6AT japan specs comes at 198gr/km

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/atta...1&d=1636121080

Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France :cry:


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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3479354)
AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

Not necessarily, the last WLTP GT86s had lower CO2 as manuals (191 vs. 193)

nikitopo 11-07-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alex87f (Post 3479385)
Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France :cry:

My car is registered with 159gr/km and it is a 6+ years old car. Everyone goes lower and Subaru goes higher. :sigh:

boy_racer 11-07-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3479354)
AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

My best bet it will be around 210gr/km

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Originally Posted by alex87f (Post 3479385)
They might just be looking for press shots for RoW markets though ;-)



Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France :cry:




Not necessarily, the last WLTP GT86s had lower CO2 as manuals (191 vs. 193)

That is a BIG big tax for France:confused0068:

I thought first gen wltp was 196 for manual and 183 for Auto.


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