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ArchReactor86 06-10-2021 03:32 PM

Oregon Deq fail OFT stage 2 plus.
 
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I did Oregon Deq today and failed for evap. Does anyone have any experience or advice on passing Deq. Mods to car are uncatted UEL headers, and cat back exhaust. Drop in air filter. The car currently has non ethanol fuel in it could that be an issue? Trying to keep crickets at bay.

NoHaveMSG 06-10-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchReactor86 (Post 3440531)
The car currently has non ethanol fuel in it could that be an issue?

No, most likely they are trying to do a readiness check on the evap system and it is not responding.

ArchReactor86 06-10-2021 05:43 PM

Is there a way to get it to respond?

NoHaveMSG 06-10-2021 06:05 PM

@steve99

steve99 06-11-2021 02:02 AM

As oft tunes are based on european roms the evap system is bypassed when your runnog an oft tune so will always fail readyness on USA cars


Flash back your stock tune should pass emmissions

PetrolioBenzina 06-11-2021 12:02 PM

Same issue. Flashed stock ROM, passed.

solidONE 06-13-2021 01:33 AM

I was just about to ask about this.. I recently reverted my car back to factory stock completely (even reinstalled the sound tube) with factory rom, after having been called in for a CA STAR smog station to renew my registration,. Barely passed. Then shortly after P0456 code pops up. Also, it has the idle dip on the original MY13 A01C rom. I never took it in to the dealership for the TSB. The stock tune on the early MY13 do really suck, relatively speaking.



I flashed an old tune I did back in 2015 for stock headers for shits and giggles and now it runs and idles much better. I was hoping this stage 1 tune could pass smog, but I guess not.

solidONE 06-19-2021 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 3440702)
As oft tunes are based on european roms the evap system is bypassed when your runnog an oft tune so will always fail readyness on USA cars


Flash back your stock tune should pass emmissions


Are you sure of this? I'm asking because I had a P0456 (evap small leak) code pop up while running a stage 1 tune on a reverted to all stock engine as I did right after passing my smog test while on the factory A01C rom.

steve99 06-19-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3442988)
Are you sure of this? I'm asking because I had a P0456 (evap small leak) code pop up while running a stage 1 tune on a reverted to all stock engine as I did right after passing my smog test while on the factory A01C rom.


All the ver 4 oft tunes are euro based earlier v1,2,3 tunes for usa cars were usa based.


Euro cars like mine dont have evap pressure sensor so no evap leak detect . We hace purge solenoid but no evap pressure sensor, so euro roms dont even look for evap pressure the pin on ecu on euro cars is vacant ie A35 pin 20 on ECU


Open you tune with hex editor search for ZA1J there will be three. the third one at about 13,000 hex is true calod of rom first two at 8000 and 10,000 hex are often altered in oft tunes

solidONE 06-19-2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 3443004)
All the ver 4 oft tunes are euro based earlier v1,2,3 tunes for usa cars were usa based.


Euro cars like mine dont have evap pressure sensor so no evap leak detect . We hace purge solenoid but no evap pressure sensor, so euro roms dont even look for evap pressure the pin on ecu on euro cars is vacant ie A35 pin 20 on ECU


Open you tune with hex editor search for ZA1J there will be three. the third one at about 13,000 hex is true calod of rom first two at 8000 and 10,000 hex are often altered in oft tunes


This tune I flashed was last modified in 2015, so it likely isnt a v4 tune. In that case, I'd still need to take care of the evap system throwing a code or get smog checked before the code is triggered. I'm guessing i messed something up by overfilling the fuel. I suppose Id have until the next smog check to figure it out, and my stage 1 tune is probably smog-able.

Skyehigh55 06-14-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3440853)
Same issue. Flashed stock ROM, passed.

Sorry to necro. Oregon here too, but I flashed stock rom back and still failed DEQ. I was told to complete a drive cycle per OEM. Would this possibly be because I cleared the ECU fault codes the morning before I did DEQ? My O2 sensor, EGR, EVAP, Fuel System were marked unready after a good 30 minutes of driving.

RedReplicant 06-14-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3529207)
Sorry to necro. Oregon here too, but I flashed stock rom back and still failed DEQ. I was told to complete a drive cycle per OEM. Would this possibly be because I cleared the ECU fault codes the morning before I did DEQ? My O2 sensor, EGR, EVAP, Fuel System were marked unready after a good 30 minutes of driving.

Yes. The car will need to complete drive cycles for all monitors to be ready.

Skyehigh55 06-15-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant (Post 3529225)
Yes. The car will need to complete drive cycles for all monitors to be ready.

I understand driving enough for the drive cycle to take effect but would clearing the ECU fault codes with the OFT tablet set me back at square one? I cleared the fault codes before I went to DEQ because my check engine for P0420 was thrown.

RedReplicant 06-15-2022 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3529401)
I understand driving enough for the drive cycle to take effect but would clearing the ECU fault codes with the OFT tablet set me back at square one? I cleared the fault codes before I went to DEQ because my check engine for P0420 was thrown.

Resetting the fault codes also resets your monitors, so yeah, back to square one.

Skyehigh55 06-15-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant (Post 3529443)
Resetting the fault codes also resets your monitors, so yeah, back to square one.

Much appreciated! I’ll give DEQ a try again tomorrow after another 50 or so miles

Skyehigh55 06-16-2022 06:58 PM

My CEL for P0420 just came on as I was driving home from work this morning going through drive cycle to get all systems ready. Would I fail just because of this fault code whereas all other systems should be ready? Or do I have to clear the codes again, drive a proper drive cycle then get DEQ tested before the P0420 CEL gets thrown for being catless? I’m so confused here if I can pass or not since I believe I drove enough for all systems ready yet the timing perfectly triggers CEL for P0420

RedReplicant 06-16-2022 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3529674)
My CEL for P0420 just came on as I was driving home from work this morning going through drive cycle to get all systems ready. Would I fail just because of this fault code whereas all other systems should be ready? Or do I have to clear the codes again, drive a proper drive cycle then get DEQ tested before the P0420 CEL gets thrown for being catless? I’m so confused here if I can pass or not since I believe I drove enough for all systems ready yet the timing perfectly triggers CEL for P0420

That is correct, CEL / set codes means no emissions pass.

The info from Oregon (https://www.oregon.gov/deq/filterdocs/driversguide.pdf) indicates that you can have one readiness monitor not set and still pass, so if you're able to time it right where your catalyst is the only monitor not ready / code not set you'd be able to pass.

sirbobbinhood 06-23-2022 05:51 PM

I think you'll either have to put on the stock header or adjust the OFT tune to turn off the EVAP disabling. You can get away with a single unready code but not two, I've ran through our DEQ a few times with a tune and it's no problem.

steve99 06-23-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3529674)
My CEL for P0420 just came on as I was driving home from work this morning going through drive cycle to get all systems ready. Would I fail just because of this fault code whereas all other systems should be ready? Or do I have to clear the codes again, drive a proper drive cycle then get DEQ tested before the P0420 CEL gets thrown for being catless? I’m so confused here if I can pass or not since I believe I drove enough for all systems ready yet the timing perfectly triggers CEL for P0420


if you just want to pass emmissions try just disabling P0420 on a stock tune

steve99 06-23-2022 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3529674)
My CEL for P0420 just came on as I was driving home from work this morning going through drive cycle to get all systems ready. Would I fail just because of this fault code whereas all other systems should be ready? Or do I have to clear the codes again, drive a proper drive cycle then get DEQ tested before the P0420 CEL gets thrown for being catless? I’m so confused here if I can pass or not since I believe I drove enough for all systems ready yet the timing perfectly triggers CEL for P0420


see post here if you just need P0420 removed on a stock K00c rom


https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...5&postcount=19

Skyehigh55 06-25-2022 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sirbobbinhood (Post 3530816)
I think you'll either have to put on the stock header or adjust the OFT tune to turn off the EVAP disabling. You can get away with a single unready code but not two, I've ran through our DEQ a few times with a tune and it's no problem.

That’s why my first try is to go back on stock tune, run my drive cycle until complete and hope the CEL doesn’t go on, then get it tested. By then, all systems besides the primary cat should be okay and ready. I’m waiting for an O2 spacer to arrive to see if my theory checks out. If not, I will need a revised 17’ tune with EVAP system enabled so I only have cat unready flagged. Steve99 reached out to me and am trying to sort this out in the coming week. Thank you all for the help!

Skyehigh55 08-06-2022 01:35 PM

I used a stock rom with P0420 disabled from Steve99 and passed! Thank you guys for all the help! Now I’m looking forward to trying E85


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