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Skin 08-13-2012 07:32 PM

Trading FRS for BRZ
 
A few weeks back, I was told my BRZ would not be coming in until November so I bought a FRS. Well the BRZ came in today and I went to have a look. I was not planning on making a change because I really like my FRS. But I think I have been won over. Here's why:

1. Upgrading the felt seats to the leather/alcantra.
2. Upgrading the Fischer-Price climate knobs to toggle switches.
3. Upgrading to radio with nav.
4. Upgrading to push button start.
5. Upgrading to heated seats.

I also get the rear spoiler, which I can honestly live without. I will miss the FRS floor mats, the white bit on the tach and the piano black trim pieces.

Of course I can only do this if I can sell the FRS and not take a total bath because....I got either keyed or swiped in a parking lot this weekend :mad0260:

sho220 08-13-2012 07:41 PM

You should hold out for the Corinthian leather seats...

dem00n 08-13-2012 07:41 PM

Err, nice job?

Sigh-on-Rice 08-13-2012 07:46 PM

Why not keep your FR-S until 2014 model comes out so that you don't need to deal with the initial problems 2013 model has? Unless the car being the first year model is important to you.

TRD_86 08-13-2012 07:49 PM

Any trade will be a lost of ~3k to dealer for their resale, plus you pay another new tax ~2.9k for new BRZ. I would enjoy the frs for few years and trade in for the special edition STI or any improved FRS special version in later year.

whtchocla7e 08-13-2012 07:50 PM

You rushed in bro, now you gotta pay for impatience. :iono:

mines13 08-13-2012 07:52 PM

Wow, just wow.

Tanuki 08-13-2012 07:55 PM

sounds like a dumb idea to me unless you can make your money back. At least you can do an in and out on the car at the dealer to save some $ on tax.

Oh and there is no leather in any Subaru car, stop calling it that.

GNS 08-13-2012 07:56 PM

Lose $3000+ for a slightly better interior. Excellent reasoning.

Skin 08-13-2012 07:56 PM

Ok, ok. Geeze. Maybe not then! I do like the FRS....I'm just so very impulsive!

Jidonsu 08-13-2012 07:57 PM

This would be a really stupid financial move. The $5K to $6k you'll end up spending to trade in the car and buy the more expensive one will go a long way for upgrades, like Don's turbo kit. If the BRZ upgrades are worth $5K to you, go for it, but they're not to me.

jeebus 08-13-2012 07:58 PM

well I hope those features are worth like $10k to you because that's probably what you are about to be raped of.

Skin 08-13-2012 08:02 PM

See and this is why I talk things out. Nothing like a perfectly good flaming to stop me from doing something stupid.

Mr. Sociable 08-13-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skin (Post 377428)
the piano black trim pieces.

I'll gladly trade you my black ones from my non-Limited BRZ for your limited silver ones.

Tanuki 08-13-2012 08:07 PM

plus the front of your car wont be sexy anymore if you sell

dem00n 08-13-2012 08:10 PM

I say just wait...who knows maybe a few years something better then the FRS/BRZ will come out...you never really know.

Hix 08-13-2012 08:10 PM

Their are MUCH better Nav units that what is on the BRZ stock. It is an awful interface, just completely shit; works well though...

The seats can be changed. I bet Clazzio will have something for the FR-S seat before too long.

I bet they will come out with a way to swap the A/C units before too long. Not worth the 5k minimum you would be losing from trade-in and taxes.

Push-button start and keyless entry are great but they have after market systems that do the same thing. Be patient and someone will have a DIY on it for the FR-S.

Not sure why anyone 'needs' heated seats.

If going from a base point then yes get the BRZ if you like the features, that is why I did it. If you are trading in a FR-S for it then no, just no.

SeattleJeremy 08-13-2012 08:12 PM

Sorry you bought the wrong car :(

Go to an audio place, and have them to install nav.
Go to an upholstery place and have them install real leather + heated seats.
Push button start isn't all it's cracked up to be, but is cool.
Cover the knobs with leather too.

Money saved, problem solved.

sho220 08-13-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hix (Post 377507)
Not sure why anyone 'needs' heated seats.

OP is in Detroit...heated seats would be nice to have there. Then again, moving out of Detroit would be the best option...

frsinpa 08-13-2012 08:18 PM

Yeah - the way I look at it... would you rather trade it and lose $5K for a slightly better interior and a worse front end?

Or would you rather put that $5K towards a supercharger kit in 6-12 months?

It's an easy call for me.

Jidonsu 08-13-2012 08:32 PM

Someone else tried to trade his in to the dealer and he was quoted $18K.

sho220 08-13-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jidonsu (Post 377555)
Someone else tried to trade his in to the dealer and he was quoted $18K.

Was it all stock? After some of the things I've seen done to these cars in the short period of time they've been out, in some cases 18k would be generous...

fistpoint 08-13-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 377439)
You should hold out for the Corinthian leather seats...

Only if imported directly from Corinthia...not that garbage knock-off stuff.

eriktherod 08-13-2012 09:07 PM

As most have said, not a smart move financially. I don't even think it's a good idea in general, the cars are near identical. If you want the other options, do the mods yourself (or pay somebody to). It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper that way.

The only way you'd make good money is private sale. With the availability and demand, you'd probably be able to about break even if you have THAT low miles. Even a $1-2k hit would be far less than the one from the dealers.

All in all, I wouldn't sell it just to buy the same car again with creature comforts. Yeah, I know they're nice, but it's not impossible to put them in afterwards. Unless you care about OEM, it'd be cheaper to get it done yourself anyways.

wbradley 08-13-2012 09:17 PM

Dude, unless you have money to literally burn, I think this would be an epic fail. You are far better off just modding the FR-S.
You will be trading in one of the sexiest car faces for a mustachioed one!

Spend the cash making your car way nicer than the BRZ.

rcm47 08-13-2012 09:42 PM

I wish they had cooling seats

Laika 08-13-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 377530)
OP is in Detroit...heated seats would be nice to have there. Then again, moving out of Detroit would be the best option...


Still laughing, not sure if it was meant to be funny though :bellyroll:

dori. 08-13-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD_86 (Post 377458)
Any trade will be a lost of ~3k to dealer for their resale, plus you pay another new tax ~2.9k for new BRZ. I would enjoy the frs for few years and trade in for the special edition STI or any improved FRS special version in later year.

the tax thing isn't necesarily true depending on the state. some states only charge tax on the difference between the trade in and the new car.

either way, it's a stupid decision. Just keep that Scion.

kndonlee 08-14-2012 02:18 PM

I debated on doing something similar as the OP. Was quoted 22.5k for a 2k mile FR-S. Decided to save the 3.5k.

SupraLove 08-14-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 377453)
Why not keep your FR-S until 2014 model comes out so that you don't need to deal with the initial problems 2013 model has? Unless the car being the first year model is important to you.

:word:

That's what I'm planning to do. First-year models always have their own quirks and issues (personal experience). You should wait it out. And if you really want a first-year BRZ, the second year model is no different really, it's just a couple of tweaks under the hood (no pun intended), there's no cosmetic or performance difference because it's the same generation.

driftartist 08-14-2012 03:34 PM

sounds pretty irrational mate. just upgrade to the brx stuff it would be cheaper and less hassel. dont rush into more debt and problems

dj_mallu 08-14-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD_86 (Post 377458)
Any trade will be a lost of ~3k to dealer for their resale, plus you pay another new tax ~2.9k for new BRZ.

You don't pay tax for trade in. Anyway you are going to lose a ton of money if you trade in now. :slap:

tripjammer 08-14-2012 04:12 PM

yeah spend the $5k and turn you FR-S into a real Toyota 86 loaded out, you take that money and get a turbo kit installed.

I was all down on getting a BRZ, until i saw the turbo kits coming out...FR-S all the way baby!

pyro530 08-14-2012 04:15 PM

I understand what the OP is saying, but I definitely wouldn't spend the money just to trade up.
This is the biggest reason I was angry about the fact that the car came to the US as a Scion and not a Toyota.
Had we gotten the Toyota, we could have optioned out the cars a bit more.

White64Goat 08-14-2012 04:39 PM

Who said there's no leather in a Subaru?

Subaru Sales site says:
Leather-wrapped steering wheel, shift knob, and brake handle. Limited models add leather-trimmed upholstery with Alcantara® seat inserts.
Is this a lie? :iono:

Leather is leather. It didn't say Pleather or faux............

Hanakuso 08-14-2012 05:01 PM

I had a little bit of remorse but I knew if I went the BRZ route I would of been waiting for who knows how long.

If I still feel this way in a few years I'll just trade up to the 2014-2015 BRZ. Either way tho i'm not losing any sleep over this

fistpoint 08-14-2012 11:09 PM

I'd wait a year either way and get a 2014 instead. Private sale in 1 year should net roughly equal to what a dealer would offer you today.

Sportsguy83 08-15-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanuki (Post 377470)

Oh and there is no leather in any Subaru car, stop calling it that.

Really? No leather?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1334944177

I wonder what is that I see on that pic... Or touch everyday on my car LOL....

serith 08-15-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_mallu (Post 379121)
You don't pay tax for trade in. Anyway you are going to lose a ton of money if you trade in now. :slap:

You will pay tax on the new vehicle you are purchasing, regardless of trading in a car or not.

SPEEDGOD 08-15-2012 08:46 AM

Your frs is still as good if interior matters spend the money to upgrade te interior why go through all that trouble

The toggle buttons are. It much different both frs and brz looks plain, just stick with your frs


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