Get ready June 2 reveal date for something, likely the North American GR86
 

I just came across this:
https://pressroom.toyota.com/prepare...t-in-the-wind/

Headlights from the GR86

https://toyota-cms-media.s3.amazonaw...g-1500x844.jpg

Turbo, brake pads can been seen through the caliper, Apple Carplay, etc

That was all I ever wanted. :happyanim:

Day 1 purchase for me.

Im waiting for refresh rate information...thats my dealbreaker!

Probably all the same info we already had, but more accurately translated from the Japanese web event.

Also expected: "We know you want pricing information and we'll have more to share closer to launch."

6.1 seconds. That’s all you need.

Source: https://twitter.com/Toyota/status/1397605819395477504

Also, that's what he said.

Definitely US spec version....you can tell by the amber sidemarkers. Hope the after market guys are preparing to produce the JDM clears.
https://twitter.com/Toyota/status/13...217472/photo/1

With an aggressive clutch dump I wonder if that will wind up being in the mid 5 second range. That would at least be in the ballpark of the Miata, Mustang, and Camaro.

That's way too slow. Super unsafe for traffic and highway merges.
At least theres no torque dip this time.

Promised myself I wouldn't click. Caved.

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6.1 without major clutch dump is pretty quick. My 13 will do 5.7 with a hard launch on e85.

Lol.

8 years on the market and still slower than Miata

That 6.1 might be for the Corolla lol

slow car fast = fun

although to be fair, i've never driven a fast car before

yeah i was hoping for it to be in the 4.5 second range....cuz reasons.

:burnrubber:

Right on track

https://i.postimg.cc/rsbYzLRw/time.jpg

The Miata is the literal definition of slow car fast = fun, yet even it is faster than our cars (and likely the new one).

I definitely had more fun in our cars than a Miata though!

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=934

early model nd but driving an 86 with stock suspension felt more planted, precise, playful in the back and shifting was way more fun in 86. feel in the corners, speed and level of confidence coming out of them is way more of a priority than straight line speed for me!

I have test driven both back to back (the ND1 version of the Miata) on 2 occasions, and while I agree with much of what you say here (although I preferred the Miata's shifter) the Miata did have one notable advantage that was evident from even a modest drive - the fact that it is about 450 lbs lighter. My own car splits the weight difference, and when I drove the 86 the added weight was evident. I am hoping the GR86 with its much improved rigidity feels a bit lighter on its feet.

hmm well i did forget to mention in my review that i've taken the rear seats out of mine, have cf trunk ( with aforementioned lw flywheel, cf driveshaft, lightweight wheels with stickier tires, and taking out the stock muffler) have some other cf bits that i havent installed yet and will be deleting a few more things. the miata just didnt feel as nimble to me

more money had to be spent to get the 86 to feel out of this world (like it feels AMAZING!!) im aware but that's also part of the fun with the 86 i think (modifying cars is like the fun part of the journey) WITH stock suspension!

performance aside,
the 86 is more my style design wise and then trunk space (the fact i was able to pick up my new wheels 2 hours away in my 86 was so satisfying for some reason). pluuus i coudnt fit this thing from my 86 onto the windshield in the miata i rented without giving up the ability to use the turn signal:

tldr: miata is cool but 86 is cooler says guy who posts on an 86 forum

I’ve owned both. One is a purpose built sports car. One is a half hearted cost cutting coventure

I wouldn't say it will "likely" be faster than the new one. Looking at the weight/power ratio, Miata sits around 12.93 at best. The first gen twin falls around 13.73 - which is pretty significant, hence why the Miata is a good bit quicker than our first gen. But now looking at second gen, the twin will be around 12.35 in MT form AND a significantly better torque curve (nice and flat). I would highly bet against the current Miata being quicker.

All this because of 6.1 seconds that might not even apply to the 86.

Did you notice that that twit was linked into a chain with other twits with obvious GR 86 teasers?

Its the same as Subaru's BRZ. I don't know why ppl are getting excited.

They gave us everything we asked for:

More Power: Check
More Grip: Check
Better Interior: Check
Stiffer Chassis: Check
Almost zero weight Gain: Check

What else do you want from a dedicated cheap RWD Manual Sports car

Pricing?
Available colors?
Trims?
Brembos? (don't hold your breath though...)
Official power ratings for the US market?
More cool photos?

okay you got me there. Colors and trims are nice to knows.

This is what people want:

More Power: Not Enough...and not turbocharged. 300hp MINIMUM. Can't just beat minivans, it has to destroy them because racecar.
More Grip: Tires too small Needs 19" and at least 235 width.
Better Interior: Not better enough. Wheres the leather/alcantara wrapping and the stitching? Too much hard plastic still, not enough soft plastic, Not Porsche-lite enough, Armrest not armresty enough.
Stiffer Chassis: Same old platform with updates, not a new platform. Why no TNGA/SGP??? CROWN PLATFORM PLEASE BECAUSE ITS RWD!!! They can EASILY shrink it to 86 sized.
Almost zero weight Gain: Not light enough. Could have lost another 200lbs EASY. BACK SEAT DELETE because sports cars dont need back seats!!!


Yeah we already know the specs, but i just want to know availabilty and price and available specs/options (base + GT?). So that i know when i can go take a look at this thing.

haha keep dreaming. Can't tell if this sarcasm or not :) Thats what the Supra is for :burnrubber:

Define fast.

Definitely not the golf cart I used to drive for my university job. It maxed out at 25mph, but occasionally 26 or 27mph with a good tailwind.

They want all that and it better not have gone up in price by $1. They have made back their investment so they should almost give them away by now.

If the price point was 40k they could've given us everything. Then we'd complain about the price.

If they'd listened to me we'd be getting the Spartan edition. No stereo, cruise control, wind up windows, or carpets, fire extinguisher mounted where the cup holder is. And it would be cheaper.

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The funny thing is, I'd be willing to pay that, but you know the internet would be up in arms about Porsche this, or Mustang that. And it would never end.

The whole idea of the 86 was to have an inexpensive sports car in their line up. If it creeps up in price then they have moved backwards in their goals.
Would there still be value for the money? Probably if they indeed gave all the things people claim they want.
Would some people pay it? Certainly some but all of a sudden the car would be out of reach for a whole segment of the target demographics and not as desirable for others.
And before everybody just says "Wait for used ones" we have to remember there need to be buyers for new ones for there to be used available.
As said there is already the Supra to fit the higher level niche and it checks almost all the boxes for what people say they want out of the 86.

I would hope they wouldn't brag about a 6 second zero to sixty from a sports car.

Considering how excruciatingly, painfully slow the first gen is, this is an improvement.....
Minivans can hopefully be beaten!!

:w00t:

Sarcasm mode was in effect.