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NEW FRS 05-19-2021 09:41 AM

Opinion on kit and idea
 
Okay guys, so i have news. I am going to be getting the car in about three months, and i need help quick. I figured that i am going to get these wheels.
https://www.carid.com/ns-series-whee...452173474.html

and these spacers

https://hardcoreparts.com/automotive...3-fr-s-6537803

Do you all think that would be wide enough for this kit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32411197712...Cclp%3A2334524

Before you all start roasting me about it being from ebay, my friend bought that kit, and he drifted in to a sand block thing and it held up very well. so, all in all do you guys think it will look good? the car is white, and im thinking of keeping the kit black
here is the car im looking at.

https://www.uiacars.com/vdp/16768669...ville-GA-30044

RToyo86 05-19-2021 11:48 AM

If you are 3 months out and the car might sell between now and then what is the rush?

From what I can tell those are available in a 17x7.5" +38. You don't want that big a spacer for those wheels. I'd probably go +10mm at most which requires a slip on spacer, which requires ARP extended wheel studs.

NEW FRS 05-19-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3434114)
If you are 3 months out and the car might sell between now and then what is the rush?

From what I can tell those are available in a 17x7.5" +38. You don't want that big a spacer for those wheels. I'd probably go +10mm at most which requires a slip on spacer, which requires ARP extended wheel studs.

You have to click on ore product options, there is an option for 18x8 with 40 mill offset i think, and plus i dont think it would sell its been there for a year and a half, im more worried about having to drive manual on the way back.

RToyo86 05-19-2021 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434119)
You have to click on ore product options, there is an option for 18x8 with 40 mill offset i think, and plus i dont think it would sell its been there for a year and a half, im more worried about having to drive manual on the way back.

That wheel is even wider, you will probably want max 10mm on that wheel as well.

15-20mm slip on might be okay with enough camber. Which would require some form of cher adjustment. 15mm aren't ideal as the wheel stud can hit the back of the wheel.

NEW FRS 05-19-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3434122)
That wheel is even wider, you will probably want max 10mm on that wheel as well.

15-20mm slip on might be okay with enough camber. Which would require some form of cher adjustment. 15mm aren't ideal as the wheel stud can hit the back of the wheel.

What do you mean by the wheel stud? im new to the car scene in a sense ig, like when you say the wheel stud whouldnt it have to be hitting the back of the wheel? and what if i just didnt use spacers? would that look fine? like have the 18x8 wheels with no spacers? or have like an ince spacer? it all depends ig? can you like pm me about it?

RToyo86 05-19-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434125)
What do you mean by the wheel stud? im new to the car scene in a sense ig, like when you say the wheel stud whouldnt it have to be hitting the back of the wheel? and what if i just didnt use spacers? would that look fine? like have the 18x8 wheels with no spacers? or have like an ince spacer? it all depends ig? can you like pm me about it?

You do not need wheel spacers. They can be used to dial in wheel fitment or to add clearance for bigger brakes when needed.

I wouldn't a spacer until you research and can make an informative decision on your own.


As far as your question about the wheel studs. Thin bolt on spacer will leave the wheel stud poking out which can contact the back of the wheel. The factory wheels have pockets that can accomodate this but most wheels do not.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=122

And
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=112

Taken from this thread
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=59838&page=9


Edit I just realized you were looking at a widebody. The link wasn't working for me intially.

Wait until you have the car and can take measurements with the kit tacked on. No sense in wasting money when you don't know what you need.

NEW FRS 05-19-2021 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3434130)
You do not need wheel spacers. They can be used to dial in wheel fitment or to add clearance for bigger brakes when needed.

I wouldn't a spacer until you research and can make an informative decision on your own.


As far as your question about the wheel studs. Thin bolt on spacer will leave the wheel stud poking out which can contact the back of the wheel. The factory wheels have pockets that can accomodate this but most wheels do not.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=122

And
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=112

Taken from this thread
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=59838&page=9

I just want to make sure my tires/wheels are flush with the body kit, cause otherwise imma look dumber then i already would lol

LimitedSlip 05-19-2021 01:18 PM

There is an old carpenters adage that one might paraphrase:
Measure twice, cut once.
Or, in this case:
Measure twice, purchase once.

Perhaps it would be wise to wait until the car has been secured so the kit can be applied and then measured before trying to determine correct wheel offset.

Also, if you are new to driving a manual transmission (and this platform in particular) perhaps it would be wise to learn how the car handles and performs before undertaking any major "mods". Just sayin'. :thumbsup:

RToyo86 05-19-2021 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434141)
I just want to make sure my tires/wheels are flush with the body kit, cause otherwise imma look dumber then i already would lol

I somehow didn't see the link to the widebody kit.

Wait until you get the car and the kit before you order anything. If you are set on the wheels you'll need to take measurements with the kit tacked on and the wheels installed.

x808drifter 05-19-2021 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434141)
I just want to make sure my tires/wheels are flush with the body kit, cause otherwise imma look dumber then i already would lol

Putting a widebody on an otherwise stock car wont help either.
Either do it right or try to do it cheap.
Personally I'd just get a lip kit.

1st off, look for a 14+ so you don't have to worry about the valve spring recall.
The car in the ad is definitely dropped and at the 9K price I'd be worried wtf is wrong with it.

The kit OP is looking at is a V1 RB knockoff.
You would need wheels in this size and offset for it to be "flush"
Specific offset for a 86 rocketbunny v1
Front: 18x9.5 ET 3
Rear: 18x11 ET -6

So yeah, those wheels you are looking at aren't going to cut it.
The kinds of wheels you need to buy for proper fitment with this kit are not cheap.

You are also going to be spending upwards of 5k to get the kit installed right.
Unless of course you know how to do body work, weld, and paint.
I hope your ok with doing irreversible damage to the body.
And if you do not tell your insurance about the mods made, they will not pay you for them in the event of an accident.

The car will also handle like dog shit.
These kits are for people with 500+ HP or hard parking posers.

spcmafia 05-20-2021 08:16 AM

Did I read just right that the car you're looking at has 219,000 MILES. Geez man, I mean it looks clean and well taken care of. But depending your plans with the vehicle, you may or may not be able to enjoy it for long. I suggest your really look into the service history of that car.

Tcoat 05-20-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3434195)
Putting a widebody on an otherwise stock car wont help either.
Either do it right or try to do it cheap.
Personally I'd just get a lip kit.

1st off, look for a 14+ so you don't have to worry about the valve spring recall.
The car in the ad is definitely dropped and at the 9K price I'd be worried wtf is wrong with it.

The kit OP is looking at is a V1 RB knockoff.
You would need wheels in this size and offset for it to be "flush"
Specific offset for a 86 rocketbunny v1
Front: 18x9.5 ET 3
Rear: 18x11 ET -6

So yeah, those wheels you are looking at aren't going to cut it.
The kinds of wheels you need to buy for proper fitment with this kit are not cheap.

You are also going to be spending upwards of 5k to get the kit installed right.
Unless of course you know how to do body work, weld, and paint.
I hope your ok with doing irreversible damage to the body.
And if you do not tell your insurance about the mods made, they will not pay you for them in the event of an accident.

The car will also handle like dog shit.
These kits are for people with 500+ HP or hard parking posers.

This ^ All of it.
Putting spacers on to push an 8.5 inch wheel out to be "flush" will look as getto as hell.
Drive the car as it is and save up the money to do things right.

https://wranglertjforum.com/attachme...ad-png.106075/

Cephas 05-20-2021 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3434195)
Putting a widebody on an otherwise stock car wont help either.
Either do it right or try to do it cheap.
Personally I'd just get a lip kit.

1st off, look for a 14+ so you don't have to worry about the valve spring recall.
The car in the ad is definitely dropped and at the 9K price I'd be worried wtf is wrong with it.

The kit OP is looking at is a V1 RB knockoff.
You would need wheels in this size and offset for it to be "flush"
Specific offset for a 86 rocketbunny v1
Front: 18x9.5 ET 3
Rear: 18x11 ET -6

So yeah, those wheels you are looking at aren't going to cut it.
The kinds of wheels you need to buy for proper fitment with this kit are not cheap.

You are also going to be spending upwards of 5k to get the kit installed right.
Unless of course you know how to do body work, weld, and paint.
I hope your ok with doing irreversible damage to the body.
And if you do not tell your insurance about the mods made, they will not pay you for them in the event of an accident.

The car will also handle like dog shit.
These kits are for people with 500+ HP or hard parking posers.

:clap::clap::clap:

This post slaps. Or whatever it is the kids are saying these days.

NEW FRS 05-20-2021 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LimitedSlip (Post 3434146)
There is an old carpenters adage that one might paraphrase:
Measure twice, cut once.
Or, in this case:
Measure twice, purchase once.

Perhaps it would be wise to wait until the car has been secured so the kit can be applied and then measured before trying to determine correct wheel offset.

Also, if you are new to driving a manual transmission (and this platform in particular) perhaps it would be wise to learn how the car handles and performs before undertaking any major "mods". Just sayin'. :thumbsup:

Okay, so basicly get the kit on first and then experiment with wheels?

LimitedSlip 05-20-2021 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434494)
Okay, so basicly get the kit on first and then experiment with wheels?

That would be the best way to avoid errors.

NEW FRS 05-20-2021 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LimitedSlip (Post 3434515)
That would be the best way to avoid errors.

Okay bro thanks!!! i really appreciate it!!!! I'm just trying to figure out the different things on it its so confusing considering its my first real car yk?

:thanks::sigh:

brandonblt2 05-20-2021 03:37 PM

Wow 9k for a 2013 FRS with 219k miles. Seems overpriced I did a KBB on my BRZ with 168k and that was only 8k that's before I add my list of mods. It might be worth looking for a better deal on the car first before buying a body kit and wheels.

TAKECLEAR_86 05-20-2021 06:28 PM

It's your money so you can do what you want, but I'd stay away from a 2013 with that high mileage. And like everyone else has said. If you want to go wide, do it right the first time around so you're not throwing money down the drain or breaking stuff because you tried to do it on a budget.

Widebody/low cars are not something you do on a budget. That's how you end up with a car that's in the shop more than actually being driven, and this car is meant to be driven.

spike021 05-20-2021 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434079)
Okay guys, so i have news. I am going to be getting the car in about three months, and i need help quick. I figured that i am going to get these wheels.
https://www.carid.com/ns-series-whee...452173474.html

and these spacers

https://hardcoreparts.com/automotive...3-fr-s-6537803

Do you all think that would be wide enough for this kit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32411197712...Cclp%3A2334524

Before you all start roasting me about it being from ebay, my friend bought that kit, and he drifted in to a sand block thing and it held up very well. so, all in all do you guys think it will look good? the car is white, and im thinking of keeping the kit black
here is the car im looking at.

https://www.uiacars.com/vdp/16768669...ville-GA-30044

Honestly..

Just get some solid photos of your buddy's car, some solid photos of the wheels you're considering, and have someone photoshop them onto the buddy's car.

:thumbsup:

Seems you're kinda jumping into this quickly when there are muuuch easier ways than asking rando's on the internet what they think (plus, shouldn't this be a matter of what you think of it since you're putting the money into it and going to own it? :iono: ).

Lucky21 05-20-2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434521)
Okay bro thanks!!! i really appreciate it!!!! I'm just trying to figure out the different things on it its so confusing considering its my first real car yk?

:thanks::sigh:

I feel like you should get the car first and drive it before planning to do anything with it. As this is your first car I know it's exciting to plan a build ahead of time thinking you know what you want to do. I was like you when I first got the car as this was also my first "performance" car of any kind and let me tell you, if I had the money for all the parts I wanted to get at the time, I would have probably hated how my car looked right now. Just wanted to share my thoughts with you!

soundman98 05-20-2021 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky21 (Post 3434726)
I feel like you should get the car first and drive it before planning to do anything with it. As this is your first car I know it's exciting to plan a build ahead of time thinking you know what you want to do. I was like you when I first got the car as this was also my first "performance" car of any kind and let me tell you, if I had the money for all the parts I wanted to get at the time, I would have probably hated how my car looked right now. Just wanted to share my thoughts with you!

my first car, a 1994 chrysler lebaron front-wheel-drive, i heavily researched making it rwd, and installing a v8 under the hood.

i went so far as to make a very comprehensive cardomain page about it. around the same time that most info was on geocity pages. neither of which exist anymore...

but after 4 years and too many repair bills, i sold it to carmax for scrap value just to be rid of it. never even started the plan i had.

first cars are fun to dream with. but they should not be modded.

WC-BRZ 05-21-2021 05:53 AM

The more I see these types of threads and the more of these hoopties I see on the road, the more I want to just exit the 86 scene!

NEW FRS 05-21-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky21 (Post 3434726)
I feel like you should get the car first and drive it before planning to do anything with it. As this is your first car I know it's exciting to plan a build ahead of time thinking you know what you want to do. I was like you when I first got the car as this was also my first "performance" car of any kind and let me tell you, if I had the money for all the parts I wanted to get at the time, I would have probably hated how my car looked right now. Just wanted to share my thoughts with you!

Thank you sir, see I have a friend who has an FR-S, and he has done the same thing I want to do, he has had it that way since 2015 and haven't changed it one bit. the only thing he changed has ben the paint color. He loves it and so do I. I wish every time I see it I had it.
I am just very eager for it, i have the money, but I'm doing for the moment just aesthetics and then after that i'll get on performance. I am just very excited.

NEW FRS 05-21-2021 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3434648)
Honestly..

Just get some solid photos of your buddy's car, some solid photos of the wheels you're considering, and have someone photoshop them onto the buddy's car.

:thumbsup:

Seems you're kinda jumping into this quickly when there are muuuch easier ways than asking rando's on the internet what they think (plus, shouldn't this be a matter of what you think of it since you're putting the money into it and going to own it? :iono: ).

Yes sir i understand. and i am "asking randos" as you put it, because i figure you all have experience so therefore your better then the people at my school 🤷*♂️

NEW FRS 05-21-2021 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonblt2 (Post 3434576)
Wow 9k for a 2013 FRS with 219k miles. Seems overpriced I did a KBB on my BRZ with 168k and that was only 8k that's before I add my list of mods. It might be worth looking for a better deal on the car first before buying a body kit and wheels.

QWell to be honest, im going to see if i can drive the rice down, because 9k just seems too much, soooooo

Cephas 05-21-2021 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW FRS (Post 3434824)
Thank you sir, see I have a friend who has an FR-S, and he has done the same thing I want to do...

What size wheels is he running?

saltywetman 05-21-2021 08:43 AM

say no to reps and knockoffs!

Tcoat 05-21-2021 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltywetman (Post 3434844)
say no to reps and knockoffs!

He wants our opinion. Except for that!

soundman98 05-22-2021 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WC-BRZ (Post 3434799)
The more I see these types of threads and the more of these hoopties I see on the road, the more I want to just exit the 86 scene!

you ain't seen 'nutin yet!


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