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2020BRZtS 05-17-2021 01:15 AM

Air tagging your car
 
Has anyone thought about using an air tag to track your car in the event it is stolen?

humfrz 05-17-2021 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2020BRZtS (Post 3433353)
Has anyone thought about using an air tag to track your car in the event it is stolen?

Oh, I reckon that would work iffen the bad guys didn't take it too far away - ;)

spike021 05-17-2021 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2020BRZtS (Post 3433353)
Has anyone thought about using an air tag to track your car in the event it is stolen?

I mean, you could try but if they take it somewhere rural or where there are few iOS devices, then it's not going to be that reliable.

The airtag is best for situations like being attached to luggage because that means it's going through airports/train stations where it's much more likely to come across iOS devices that can report its location.

If you're that worried, you're probably better off getting a dedicated GPS tracker.

DarkPira7e 05-17-2021 05:44 AM

You'll be better off leaving a receipt on the passenger seat saying it just had the valve spring recall done

spcmafia 05-17-2021 09:05 AM

This has been discussed in some news articles. There are a few problem with this.

Air tags depend highly on other iOS devices to be near it, with their Bluetooth on, in order to pinpoint its location. So if the robber takes it to an isolated location you're SOL. Another thing is that Air Tags emit an alarm when a certain distance has been reached from whatever device they are originally linked to. This would alarm the robber who would immediately take action.

Transport3r 05-17-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3433379)
This has been discussed in some news articles. There are a few problem with this.

Air tags depend highly on other iOS devices to be near it, with their Bluetooth on, in order to pinpoint its location. So if the robber takes it to an isolated location you're SOL. Another thing is that Air Tags emit an alarm when a certain distance has been reached from whatever device they are originally linked to. This would alarm the robber who would immediately take action.


The action would probably be to ditch the car, finding it would be a nightmare in a car, especially if it’s hidden somewhere clever.

Sapphireho 05-17-2021 11:58 AM

Mine is MT. Not worried about theft.

Ultramaroon 05-17-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3433413)
Mine is MT. Not worried about theft.

Plus, with all that varnish in the tank...

ichitaka05 05-17-2021 01:17 PM

I have it in mine, but not for car getting stolen, but to make it easier to find where in the fuck did I park. lol
https://media.tenor.com/images/3d062...04e5/tenor.gif

spike021 05-17-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3433431)
I have it in mine, but not for car getting stolen, but to make it easier to find where in the fuck did I park. lol
https://media.tenor.com/images/3d062...04e5/tenor.gif

Your iPhone should already be able to track that if you connect with bluetooth/carplay. Usually Apple Maps automagically sets its parked location, and I know Google Maps has a similar feature.

ichitaka05 05-17-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3433436)
Your iPhone should already be able to track that if you connect with bluetooth/carplay. Usually Apple Maps automagically sets its parked location, and I know Google Maps has a similar feature.

Do you think, '14 came w carplay? :lol:

spike021 05-17-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3433437)
Do you think, '14 came w carplay? :lol:

Haha, but it has bluetooth, right? I think even the earlier BT-enabled headunits should be recognized. Maybe not.

ichitaka05 05-17-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3433438)
Haha, but it has bluetooth, right? I think even the earlier BT-enabled headunits should be recognized. Maybe not.

Don't think older one can do it... but I could be wrong.

Tcoat 05-17-2021 05:40 PM

Don't leave the keys in it so it doesn't get stolen in the first place.
If it is stolen by professionals (that can get around the chip system) for that highly lucrative off shore FRS/BRZ/86 sales market then they are going to know how to find and shut off tracking devices anyway.

Transport3r 05-17-2021 06:01 PM

Air tagging your car
 
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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3433438)
Haha, but it has bluetooth, right? I think even the earlier BT-enabled headunits should be recognized. Maybe not.


iOS can tell when you get out of a car just from accelerometer data. It’s kinda insane. It was in one of the betas at some point but now you need Bluetooth handsfree or CarPlay. Then again everything has Bluetooth now

2020BRZtS 05-17-2021 07:26 PM

Thank you all for the information. For $25 I am going to try it. I've read about how it uses IOS devices with Bluetooth on to report back but have yet to find specifically how close they have to be. @Tcoat has a great point about the immobilizer and not leaving the keys in it; having a car stolen from a dealership that was later found double parked with the keys in it does not seem as far-fetched to me.

Tcoat 05-17-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2020BRZtS (Post 3433552)
Thank you all for the information. For $25 I am going to try it. I've read about how it uses IOS devices with Bluetooth on to report back but have yet to find specifically how close they have to be. @Tcoat has a great point about the immobilizer and not leaving the keys in it; having a car stolen from a dealership that was later found double parked with the keys in it does not seem as far-fetched to me.

Over the years on here there have been 3 guys that left their cars running someplace only to come back and find them gone. Oh, and one that swears his drunken brother didn't take the keys off the table, drive the crap outta the car, bounce it off a curb and then park it back in the driveway.
There are of course ways that the pros can defeat the immobilizer but they are not taking risks to steal $25,000 cars.

Dadhawk 05-17-2021 09:05 PM

Hadn't heard of this since I don't iOS, but was looking at it. I found it ironic that Apple brags how they designed the battery to be easily replaceable, yet can't seem to manage to do that in their phones (not that many do anymore).

Please excuse the interruption, now returing you to your regularly scheduled discussion...

spike021 05-17-2021 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3433587)
Hadn't heard of this since I don't iOS, but was looking at it. I found it ironic that Apple brags how they designed the battery to be easily replaceable, yet can't seem to manage to do that in their phones (not that many do anymore).

Please excuse the interruption, now returing you to your regularly scheduled discussion...

Eh to be fair the battery they went with for these is ubiquitous, used for so many things and available in just about every store you can think of.

Little different for lithium batteries.

Maybe they could've invented a special battery to allow swapping in phones, but they could've done the same for the airtag instead of making it a CR2042 or whatever it is.

2020BRZtS 05-17-2021 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r (Post 3433510)
iOS can tell when you get out of a car just from accelerometer data. It’s kinda insane. It was in one of the betas at some point but now you need Bluetooth handsfree or CarPlay. Then again everything has Bluetooth now

IOS also knows when you are asleep and when you are awake... and tracks your search history to find out if you've been good or bad and moonlights as Santa's helper.

2020BRZtS 05-17-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3433356)
I mean, you could try but if they take it somewhere rural or where there are few iOS devices, then it's not going to be that reliable.

The airtag is best for situations like being attached to luggage because that means it's going through airports/train stations where it's much more likely to come across iOS devices that can report its location.

If you're that worried, you're probably better off getting a dedicated GPS tracker.

I've thought about this and may have to research again. When I first looked, everything I found needed to be charged periodically and the best long-term option I found was a dash cam, which comes with it's own drawbacks. I asked the dealership about lo-jack or similar and they said permanent trackers are discouraged as they tend to drain the batteries in these cars.

humfrz 05-18-2021 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3433413)
Mine is MT. Not worried about theft.

Why would the folks up there want your car anyway?

:iono:

Dadhawk 05-18-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3433610)
Eh to be fair the battery they went with for these is ubiquitous, used for so many things and available in just about every store you can think of. .

Plenty of phones and the devices have/had user replaceable lithium ion batteries. Honestly, it's a moot point as very few phones any longer, unless its a burner phone, have replaceable batteries, just a pet peeve of mine.


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