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cassidy0998 08-13-2012 03:46 PM

BRZ will be in Forza Horizon
 
Couldn't find a specific thread for this - Not sure if anyone has posted it yet. Looks like Forza beat Gran Turismo to the BRZ.


http://racesimcentral.com/wp-content...on-preview.jpg

OrbitalEllipses 08-13-2012 04:30 PM

That's a GT300, but I'm probably gonna skip Horizon. It's just Need For Speed.

MiguelAE86 08-13-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 376945)
That's a GT300, but I'm probably gonna skip Horizon. It's just Need For Speed.

I have to :bump: this thread and inform those of you who are ill-informed of this amazing game about to be released.

Ever wanted to take a car from Forza 4/GT5 and just drive it balls our on the highway, street, or your favorite canyon road? Well, no other game in history will come as close to that as Forza Horizon.

No, it's not "just Need for Speed". It has full 100% Forza physics, customization (twin-turbo Gallardo highway/wangan racing anyone?), and on top of that, probably the biggest, most beautifully-rendered driving world ever conceived.

This isn't just an arcade TestDriveUnlimited clone. No, this is probably going to be the best free-roam racing game ever made for the console. Think about anything you'd like to do on any part of the world with any desirable car(or truck!) and BOOM: You can do it in Horizon!

Allch Chcar 08-13-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 376977)
spiel

Hmm, I have this insatiable urge to report you for spam.





:bellyroll:

Flat Black VW 08-13-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 376977)
I have to :bump: this thread and inform those of you who are ill-informed of this amazing game about to be released.

Ever wanted to take a car from Forza 4/GT5 and just drive it balls our on the highway, street, or your favorite canyon road? Well, no other game in history will come as close to that as Forza Horizon.

No, it's not "just Need for Speed". It has full 100% Forza physics, customization (twin-turbo Gallardo highway/wangan racing anyone?), and on top of that, probably the biggest, most beautifully-rendered driving world ever conceived.

This isn't just an arcade TestDriveUnlimited clone. No, this is probably going to be the best free-roam racing game ever made for the console. Think about anything you'd like to do on any part of the world with any desirable car(or truck!) and BOOM: You can do it in Horizon!

I HOPE this is true. however after watching videos of the game online I find it more and more to being like need for speed. For example, in FH, you can drive through grass, dirt, fences and over curbs in a 2013 Viper, all at about 160mph.... That is nothing like Forza, much closer to NFS. Another issue I have is in the videos you see cars having head on collisions at 150+ mph, slowing to about 120 and regaining speed almost immediately, no spinout, major crash, slide off of the road, nothing. This is yet again a feature of NFS and NOT Forza. Forza is not just about the driver control physics, (although that is a HUGE factor) its also about realistic driving experience, which FH clearly is NOT.

I am very hopeful for this game, I have been a Forza fan since the beginning. That being said the more and more I look into this game, the more disappointed I get.

King Tut 08-13-2012 05:29 PM

I will be buying it, and looking forward to driving the BRZ. I just bought the August car pack to drive the FR-S yesterday. Makes a decent A class car.

MiguelAE86 08-13-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 377054)
I HOPE this is true. however after watching videos of the game online I find it more and more to being like need for speed. For example, in FH, you can drive through grass, dirt, fences and over curbs in a 2013 Viper, all at about 160mph.... That is nothing like Forza, much closer to NFS. Another issue I have is in the videos you see cars having head on collisions at 150+ mph, slowing to about 120 and regaining speed almost immediately, no spinout, major crash, slide off of the road, nothing. This is yet again a feature of NFS and NOT Forza. Forza is not just about the driver control physics, (although that is a HUGE factor) its also about realistic driving experience, which FH clearly is NOT.

I am very hopeful for this game, I have been a Forza fan since the beginning. That being said the more and more I look into this game, the more disappointed I get.

Yeah yeah, the crashing simulation may not be FULL on simulation, but c'mon guys! Forza Horizon is the closest thing to "Let me get whatever car i choose, throw my money at it, and just hoon around and do as I wish with friends online!"

Who wouldn't want that?! :party0030:

Zaggeron 08-13-2012 05:32 PM

Basically the current consoles don't have the power to have both Forza 4 realism and open world driving in one game. I'd love a "road rally" game with Forza physics where google maps is the limit, but I'm doubtful Horizons is it.

cassidy0998 08-14-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 376945)
That's a GT300, but I'm probably gonna skip Horizon. It's just Need For Speed.

it's still a BRZ. Horizon will be nothing like the NFS franchise.

ksak 08-16-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 376977)
I have to :bump: this thread and inform those of you who are ill-informed of this amazing game about to be released.

Ever wanted to take a car from Forza 4/GT5 and just drive it balls our on the highway, street, or your favorite canyon road? Well, no other game in history will come as close to that as Forza Horizon.

No, it's not "just Need for Speed". It has full 100% Forza physics, customization (twin-turbo Gallardo highway/wangan racing anyone?), and on top of that, probably the biggest, most beautifully-rendered driving world ever conceived.

This isn't just an arcade TestDriveUnlimited clone. No, this is probably going to be the best free-roam racing game ever made for the console. Think about anything you'd like to do on any part of the world with any desirable car(or truck!) and BOOM: You can do it in Horizon!

Hate to say it, but this is wishful thinking. Horizon will pander to the NFS crowd aka children. Arcade on the rails driving is what you should expect.

MiguelAE86 08-17-2012 01:52 AM

Regardless, it's still going to be awesome fun! The freedom of realism + open-world games is always at its pinnacle every time a game like this comes a long!

It could only be a good thing: progress.

MmmHamSandwich 08-17-2012 02:09 AM

"Everything you hit you get more of a score for."

Yeah, not Forza...

MiguelAE86 08-17-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich (Post 385113)

Oh c'mon, it's a point-reward system! And yeah, it's supposed to be a mix, or should i say a "bridging-the-gap" scenario between simulation-physics and arcade dynamics of the open road!

I think it's a win-win situation if you ask me, ESPECIALLY considering that Horizon is just a demonstration of how much greater Forza 5 will be. (implementation of new lighting technology, bigger environments, etc. proving that the 360 can do it!)

rice_classic 08-17-2012 02:34 AM

Turn 10 has lost their way. Goodbye Turn 10, don't the door hit you in the *** on your way out.

yormaX 08-17-2012 02:47 AM

Microsoft is milking the Forza series, just like Halo. But Forza Horizon is going to be more like an arcade simulator. *cough NFS Hot pursuit knock off Cough*. I'll just wait for the Gran Turismo 6. :)

Calidrifter 08-17-2012 02:57 AM

You guys fail to remember that this game is in no way Forza 5. Horizon is its own entity and will be its own entity but will carry the Forza name.

Gran Turismo at this point has the same vague release date as 4 so we will probably see it on PS5 at the earliest.

(K) 08-17-2012 08:27 AM

Does anybody remember the games made by Genki? The Tokyo Xtreme and Kaido Battle series. THOSE were awesome games. Back then, it was like Gran Turismo had a lovechild with Need for Speed and Initial D. Hopefully Horizon will turn out similarly.

blur 08-17-2012 08:43 AM

Damn so much hate for a game that no one has played yet... from what Ive heard, there's a full day and night cycle, off road racing(with the implementation of 26 new surfaces), a complete replica of a city in colorado with mountain roads(touge?), and it retains the handling system of Forza 4.

Inside sim racing had some good things to say about it.

tomato86 08-17-2012 08:59 AM

Which begs the question, why did Kaz put the 86 and FR-S in GT5 and leave out the BRZ?

dori. 08-17-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 376977)
I have to :bump: this thread and inform those of you who are ill-informed of this amazing game about to be released.

Ever wanted to take a car from Forza 4/GT5 and just drive it balls our on the highway, street, or your favorite canyon road? Well, no other game in history will come as close to that as Forza Horizon.

No, it's not "just Need for Speed". It has full 100% Forza physics, customization (twin-turbo Gallardo highway/wangan racing anyone?), and on top of that, probably the biggest, most beautifully-rendered driving world ever conceived.

This isn't just an arcade TestDriveUnlimited clone. No, this is probably going to be the best free-roam racing game ever made for the console. Think about anything you'd like to do on any part of the world with any desirable car(or truck!) and BOOM: You can do it in Horizon!

It's like this guy works for Turn 10 or something :/

bladesamurai 08-17-2012 09:44 AM

Horizon retains the handling, but not nearly as much of the customization and tuning that makes the Forza series great. Horizon will appeal to those who prefer to just hop in a car and drive (like free play on Forza 4) but for some of us that in-depth choice and customization for each car is what makes the game great. I'll hold out for Forza 5 while driving the FR-S in Forza 4 (pretending that it's a BRZ :) ).

Camotec 08-17-2012 10:04 AM

Fark it I will get Horizon and Forza 5. I mean the Forza is the closest thing to real physics on a console. (No GT5 vs Forza arguments please) And its fun, and if you can free roam and do pick your own path racing then its even better for multiplayer.

- Sent from my HTC Velocity

Allch Chcar 08-17-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 385144)
Turn 10 has lost their way. Goodbye Turn 10, don't the door hit you in the *** on your way out.

An outside company is developing Horizon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dori. (Post 385483)
It's like this guy works for Turn 10 or something :/

No, Miguel is just very passionate.

rice_classic 08-17-2012 02:07 PM

If you guys don't want to settle for the "need for speed" future Forza is developing then check out Project C.A.R.S.

Pure simulation, open development, wider support.

huma 08-18-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Camotec (Post 385500)
I mean the Forza is the closest thing to real physics on a console.

I disagree and so does 6 million other people.....that's why one game sold about 8 million and the other barely hit 2 million, even as a pack in game.

TOMIMOTO 08-18-2012 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by yormaX (Post 385157)
Microsoft is milking the Forza series, just like Halo. But Forza Horizon is going to be more like an arcade simulator. *cough NFS Hot pursuit knock off Cough*. I'll just wait for the Gran Turismo 6. :)

The release date for GT6 is 2045.......

I mean 2049.........

I mean 2052...............

Fuck it. It will be released in 2053, but it will be released as an unfinished beta game with "real life" car damage.

I've been a GT and FORZA fan since the introduction of both games.

I'm not going to take Horzon's seriously, but in all honesty, it's not meant to be.

WRXGuy1 08-18-2012 07:10 PM

Sweet!

Zadkiel 09-13-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 377068)
Yeah yeah, the crashing simulation may not be FULL on simulation, but c'mon guys! Forza Horizon is the closest thing to "Let me get whatever car i choose, throw my money at it, and just hoon around and do as I wish with friends online!"

Who wouldn't want that?! :party0030:

People who prefer the traditional Forza experience? The reason I buy a Forza product is because it specifically ISN'T a NFS style game. MSoft could've easily called it something other than Forza Horizon.

MiguelAE86 09-21-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zadkiel (Post 438945)
People who prefer the traditional Forza experience? The reason I buy a Forza product is because it specifically ISN'T a NFS style game. MSoft could've easily called it something other than Forza Horizon.

That's what Forza 4 & 5 will be for!

Forza is a mere franchise. There are now branches to that franchise: Horizon + Motorsport. Simple!

rice_classic 09-21-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 453715)
That's what Forza 4 & 5 will be for!

Forza is a mere franchise. There are now branches to that franchise: Horizon + Motorsport. Simple!

Turn 10 did not use their existing design/developer team for Horizon. They outsourced to a British firm to design Horizon because the existing Turn 10 Forza team in Redmond supposedly "was too hung up on the importance of simulation", and Horizon is not Forza, it's Turn 10's interpretation of Need for Speed thus the British firm.

The Forza developers, most of them, are still employed at Turn 10 but have nothing to do with Horizon, however I when I pressed the issue with them they would not divulge any secrets, which I take to be a good thing.

There's still hope that Turn 10 hasn't gone down the toilet. :thumbup:

636 09-22-2012 12:20 AM

As it's been said...this ISN'T the next Forza Motorsport. It's a SPIN-OFF. An ARCADE spin-off with Forza Physics.

It's developed by the same people who made Dirt. So all of you expecting a "Super-realistic driving experience," wait for FM5.

Oh, and that photo is a faked photoshop. It was proven fake, there's no BRZ 300 in FH.

M-17 09-22-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 636 (Post 454092)
As it's been said...this ISN'T the next Forza Motorsport. It's a SPIN-OFF. An ARCADE spin-off with Forza Physics.

It's developed by the same people who made Dirt. So all of you expecting a "Super-realistic driving experience," wait for FM5.

Oh, and that photo is a faked photoshop. It was proven fake, there's no BRZ 300 in FH.

Really? That sucks, it would have been sick to have the GT300 in FH. :(

Coheed 09-22-2012 10:57 PM

HAHA suckers. I'll be cruising in my BRZ next Tuesday on GT5, see you in the rear view!

Just kidding. But i am so buying a BRZ next tuesday.

n2oinferno 09-22-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 636 (Post 454092)
It's developed by the same people who made Dirt. So all of you expecting a "Super-realistic driving experience," wait for FM5.

That's slightly misleading. Codemasters made, and continues to make, the Dirt series. Forza Horizon is being developed by Playground Games, which is a fairly new company made up of ex-Codemasters and ex-Bizzare Creations (Project Gotham, Blur) members.

SubarooMike 10-10-2012 11:51 PM

I am not a big video game guy, but the physics in Forza Horizon (the demo atleast) were horrible IMO. The only video game I play is Forza 4. I have always dreamed of driving the cars on the open road -- finally they announced Forza Horizon. Turn 10 said that Horizon would offer the same physics that car enthusiasts loved in Forza 4. They are full of crap! So not only cant I afford a BRZ (in college) but now Forza Horizon has been taken from me! LOL!

Loki2x 10-11-2012 12:00 PM

^ I agree. Forza is my favorite racing game of all time, and after playing the demo I realized it is just a Turn 10 need for speed. In the off road racing you can bump and scrape walls and other cars all you want and it barely effects your race. I was expecting a off road experience closer to Dirt3. I think Forza 4 is still the best tarmac racing game, but Horizen has a long way to go in terms of making more realistic physics that hardcore race fans can appreciate. There are already plenty of other need for speed clones. If Turn 10 is wasting time on anything other than Forza 5, they should at least keep the physics engine up to par with all their other products.

SUB-FT86 10-11-2012 12:15 PM

I'll wait for Forza Motorsport 5 instead.

n2oinferno 10-11-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SubarooMike (Post 489445)
I am not a big video game guy, but the physics in Forza Horizon (the demo atleast) were horrible IMO. The only video game I play is Forza 4. I have always dreamed of driving the cars on the open road -- finally they announced Forza Horizon. Turn 10 said that Horizon would offer the same physics that car enthusiasts loved in Forza 4. They are full of crap! So not only cant I afford a BRZ (in college) but now Forza Horizon has been taken from me! LOL!

How can you compare a physics engine running on a racetrack surface versus a physics engine running on 65 different programmed surface types? Well, frankly, you can't. The same physics engine underpins both games, which makes sense because this game was still in development a year before Forza 4 was released, but you have a lot more variables in friction this time around. I'll agree it doesn't feel exactly the same, but based upon the previous statement it shouldn't. The more I play it, the more it feels like a Forza on the road.

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Originally Posted by Loki2x (Post 490286)
^ I agree. Forza is my favorite racing game of all time, and after playing the demo I realized it is just a Turn 10 need for speed. In the off road racing you can bump and scrape walls and other cars all you want and it barely effects your race. I was expecting a off road experience closer to Dirt3. I think Forza 4 is still the best tarmac racing game, but Horizen has a long way to go in terms of making more realistic physics that hardcore race fans can appreciate. There are already plenty of other need for speed clones. If Turn 10 is wasting time on anything other than Forza 5, they should at least keep the physics engine up to par with all their other products.

Play a real arcade racing game like NFS, Burnout, Blur, whatever, and then the FH demo back to back. It suddenly doesn't really feel like an arcade racer anymore. I felt the same way at first, that it felt vastly different than Forza 4. Then I popped in Burnout Paradise and NFS Hot Pursuit, both of which I hadn't played in a while. Completely different IMO. I'm not sure what your realism/difficulty settings are at, but if I make mistakes in a race on Insane or even Hard, I lose a good bit of time. It's definitely no Blur, where wallriding was the fastest way around the track.

Obviously I'm not going to change anyone's minds if they already have it set in stone that "it's not a Forza Motorsport game." But that's fine, it wasn't meant to be, and it's not. But it does share a lot in common with its sibling. I just think it deserves more of a chance than those writing it off because they tried a demo and already think they know exactly how it should feel, when this is an area that hasn't even been explored in this franchise in the past. No harm done though, I know I'll be enjoying it. :) And I'll be looking forward to Forza 5 on the next Xbox console.

Dorb 10-24-2012 08:11 AM

Bought the collectors edition and all the DLC (yes I'm a sucker) BRZ not in the game, but the FR-S sure has lots of ground effects to pick from - Like a kid in the candy store. (so is my Focus ST)
I also was gifted several cool high level cars for my level in Forza4.
Fun little game to mess around with.

travace 10-24-2012 11:06 AM

haters can hate... horizon isnt supposed to be a sim but a better arcade style racer. which it is. still has better physics then any of the NFS. it has its awesome painting still. Horizon is fun for what it is.


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