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Biggumzzz 03-21-2021 06:56 AM

2nd to 3rd gear weird over-rev jerk when shifting
 
So my car has recently started playing up with the gears. It’s an AUTO. It does the problem in D and in M as well. The problem only happens in 2nd to 3rd. Every other gear is full power and shifts smooth like butter. 2nd is very sputtery weirdly enough. Engine sometimes backfires as I accelerate during this gear. And when I shift at 6000 - 7000 rpm, the car jerks and you can hear the car try to rev harder during it mid shift, like a launch almost. What’s the problem? Any idea? Thankyou :) hopefully the video shows you guys something. The rpm needle bounces before it even hits max rpm. Never does it on cold. Only ever warm. The car also has loss of power during the 2nd gear.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9oynf3OEsw :mad0259:

Biggumzzz 03-21-2021 07:00 AM

It’s getting worse. The car launches forward, it jerks a shit tonne during the 2nd to 3rd shift

radroach 03-21-2021 07:49 AM

That's called a flare shift and it's bad for the transmission.

Have you tried letting off a bit between shifts? I don't own an auto 86 but on all my other automatic-transmission cars I always lift a little bit between shifts unless I'm going full-throttle.

Did a quick google search and it seems its been a complaint for some owners for awhile.

Ashikabi 03-21-2021 09:38 AM

You stock or tuned?

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soundman98 03-21-2021 09:59 AM

what's your mileage, and have you checked the fluid level?

Biggumzzz 03-21-2021 11:01 AM

My car was just serviced for 90,000km. All fluids and filters were changed. The problem was happening before the service. I was hoping it would fix itself with new transmission fluid. But nope. And letting off the throttle it’s still happening. It revs highly for a second and jerks like crazy

Biggumzzz 03-21-2021 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3415457)
You stock or tuned?

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Stock everything except exhaust

Ashikabi 03-21-2021 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggumzzz (Post 3415468)
Stock everything except exhaust

Hmm yeah that's weird. If you were tuned, I'd say look into that. But since you're not, then you're kinda out of my expertise on this one

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Biggumzzz 03-21-2021 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach (Post 3415444)
That's called a flare shift and it's bad for the transmission.

Have you tried letting off a bit between shifts? I don't own an auto 86 but on all my other automatic-transmission cars I always lift a little bit between shifts unless I'm going full-throttle.

Did a quick google search and it seems its been a complaint for some owners for awhile.

How much would it be to fix do you know?

czellers 03-21-2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggumzzz (Post 3415439)
So my car has recently started playing up with the gears. It’s an AUTO. It does the problem in D and in M as well. The problem only happens in 2nd to 3rd. Every other gear is full power and shifts smooth like butter. 2nd is very sputtery weirdly enough. Engine sometimes backfires as I accelerate during this gear. And when I shift at 6000 - 7000 rpm, the car jerks and you can hear the car try to rev harder during it mid shift, like a launch almost. What’s the problem? Any idea? Thankyou :) hopefully the video shows you guys something. The rpm needle bounces before it even hits max rpm. Never does it on cold. Only ever warm. The car also has loss of power during the 2nd gear.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9oynf3OEsw :mad0259:

Have you tried disconnecting the battery completely (both +/- terminals) for a few mins, then testing again?

Biggumzzz 03-22-2021 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czellers (Post 3415592)
Have you tried disconnecting the battery completely (both +/- terminals) for a few mins, then testing again?

I’ve tried everything. It feels mechanically related. Not ecu or anything

radroach 03-22-2021 06:16 PM

@Biggumzzz maybe your transmission mount is worn out

churchx 03-22-2021 09:05 PM

"All fluids and filters were changed" .. but does that list included AT gearbox oil? On many modern cars manufacturers mark that it's not needed and that it's for lifetime .. so "all" by official regular maintenance procedures may had omited that.
Also in some cases flushing/filling procedure matters to be performed in right way with right steps taken.
Mine, as all the other cars i've driven, is MT, so i cannot chime in with other advices from own experience but these generic ones.

Biggumzzz 03-23-2021 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3415834)
"All fluids and filters were changed" .. but does that list included AT gearbox oil? On many modern cars manufacturers mark that it's not needed and that it's for lifetime .. so "all" by official regular maintenance procedures may had omited that.
Also in some cases flushing/filling procedure matters to be performed in right way with right steps taken.
Mine, as all the other cars i've driven, is MT, so i cannot chime in with other advices from own experience but these generic ones.

Yes at fluid changed. Said on service

Ashikabi 03-23-2021 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggumzzz (Post 3415920)
Yes at fluid changed. Said on service

But did they really?

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Biggumzzz 03-24-2021 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3416005)
But did they really?

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This is true. I’ll check later.

Decep 03-25-2021 08:18 PM

I had an old mercedes back in the day that depended on vacuum level to modulate shift pressure. so if you had a vacuum leak your shifts would be too soft and flare, or sometimes it'd be the opposite and shift so hard you'd chirp the tires.

i know the autos have that vacuum pump under the hood so maybe there's a connection there?

Biggumzzz 03-26-2021 01:49 AM

Fluid has definitely been replaced. Bright red. But yeah definitely something with pressure and clutch bands of some shit


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