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Justinwallace11 01-16-2021 04:05 AM

Need help with spoiler sizing options
 
Hi there,

TL;DR: Need help choosing spoiler size as it’s not cheap and I wanna make the right choice. Getting a Voltex type 2, the options are as follows; 1400mm or 1500mm width, 270mm or 300mm depth, 225mm height?

I’m new here so sorry if these questions have been answered somewhere, I’ve read the please read posts and I searched for answers but haven’t found anything that was relevant. I’m just looking for advice and opinions of what would look good and what you guys have/ had.

So basically I’m very unsure on the sizing of the spoiler I’m planning on getting. My car is not a track car yet and I’m deciding based on looks. I’m planning on getting the Voltex type 2 from Nengun Performance and they’re offering a few different size options. First thing is 1400mm or 1500mm width. I want something that isn’t sticking out past the side of the car, and looks symmetrical (best word I can think of at this point). I’m thinking the 1500mm as I will likely go for a wide body in the future.

Next thing is depth, 270mm and 300mm are the options. I’m not really sure how the whole depth even works, so yeah.

Last thing is height. There’s 4 options for this; 165mm, 195mm, 225mm, and 245mm. I was thinking one of the taller ones as I would also like to get a duck lip spoiler underneath it (in the long run). But I’m not really wanting the look of a satellite on the back of my car, so I don’t want it too high if that makes sense.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! I can attach some photos of my car if that would help anyone.

Ashikabi 01-16-2021 04:31 AM

Just get a tape measure and go hold it up to get an idea of how it'll look. There are 25.4mm in every inch. If you're deciding on looks then that's personal and only you can decide. I like big wings(you're looking at buying a wing, not a spoiler, they're different), other people like small wings, some don't like any wing. Width and depth are pretty simple. I wonder if height is mount height, or height to the top of the wing though...

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Justinwallace11 01-16-2021 08:12 AM

I don’t know why I haven’t thought of that myself. Thanks for letting me know they’re different, I wasn’t aware of this. The height is based on bracket length i believe. I suppose I should use a measuring tape to see how tall that would be.

Ashikabi 01-16-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Justinwallace11 (Post 3400118)
I don’t know why I haven’t thought of that myself. Thanks for letting me know they’re different, I wasn’t aware of this. The height is based on bracket length i believe. I suppose I should use a measuring tape to see how tall that would be.

Go watch a YouTube video about the differences. Then you can impress (or annoy) people when they call it a spoiler

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TommyW 01-16-2021 11:36 AM

Why do you want a wing like that? Is it for looks?

Spuds 01-16-2021 11:38 AM

Well, the wider, deeper, and taller your wing is, the slower your car will be due to drag.

soundman98 01-16-2021 12:24 PM

i'd like to see more front wing setups.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...u8uxtk9cyt.jpg

FR-S2GT86 01-16-2021 01:29 PM

That's just absurd.

DM7 01-16-2021 02:24 PM

If your car is going to used for competition driving (autocross/time attack); the size of the wing will be limited by the rule set of the club/organization you will be competing in.

If your car is for show; the bigger the better. Especially if you will have a wide body kit. Get the biggest one available.

Ashikabi 01-16-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3400149)
That's just absurd.

What is?

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FR-S2GT86 01-17-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3400157)
What is?

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That pic that @soundman98 posted. That's hideous.

fatoni 01-17-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3400403)
That pic that @soundman98 posted. That's hideous.

pretty sure it was chris rados old car and it was pretty fast when i would see it at the track.

Ashikabi 01-18-2021 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3400403)
That pic that @soundman98 posted. That's hideous.

Sure. But it's function over form. Big front wings aren't exactly uncommon on higher level time attack cars. If you need more front down force there are only so many options

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saltywetman 01-18-2021 02:24 AM

May want to check out japan parts or blackhawk japan as I've found them to have better prices than nengun

soundman98 01-18-2021 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 3400417)
pretty sure it was chris rados old car and it was pretty fast when i would see it at the track.

I'd have to dig it up again, but that sounds right. The theory, iirc, was to get the wing up into clean air to get more consistent downforce. Where similar setups mounted the wing on the front bumper, but then were subject to other car air currents, ground effect, and fussing with the overall aerodynamic flow over the entire car.

I remember being surprised it didn't catch on more.

x808drifter 01-18-2021 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3400424)
Sure. But it's function over form. Big front wings aren't exactly uncommon on higher level time attack cars. If you need more front down force there are only so many options

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R-ace
I-nspired
C-osmetic
E-nhancements

FR-S2GT86 01-18-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3400440)
I'd have to dig it up again, but that sounds right. The theory, iirc, was to get the wing up into clean air to get more consistent downforce. Where similar setups mounted the wing on the front bumper, but then were subject to other car air currents, ground effect, and fussing with the overall aerodynamic flow over the entire car.

I remember being surprised it didn't catch on more.


Doesn’t make it any less horrid-looking. Would you ever do that to your ride?

x808drifter 01-18-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3400463)
Doesn’t make it any less horrid-looking. Would you ever do that to your ride?

If it was a dedicated track car built for TA yes.

Look at the Superbird's rear wing for example.

Ashikabi 01-18-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3400449)
R-ace

I-nspired

C-osmetic

E-nhancements

Is it"race inspired" if it's on a literal dedicated track car? Additionaly, calling it a "cosmetic enhancement" is also incorrect since it was added to the car for function. It just happens to also be visible

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x808drifter 01-18-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3400471)
Is it"race inspired" if it's on a literal dedicated track car? Additionaly, calling it a "cosmetic enhancement" is also incorrect since it was added to the car for function. It just happens to also be visible

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Nope, then it is functional. IE not just cosmetic.

You know that comment was in reference to the OP right? Not the front wing car.
OP specifically said they wanted a big ass wing for looks.

FR-S2GT86 01-18-2021 11:28 AM

OP may as well get on the J. C. Whitney site to order one, along with one of them fart cannon mufflers to bolt onto his car also.

R-ice

I-nspired

F-unctional

E-nhancements

Ashikabi 01-18-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3400472)
Nope, then it is functional. IE not just cosmetic.



You know that comment was in reference to the OP right? Not the front wing car.

OP specifically said they wanted a big ass wing for looks.

You replied to a comment about the front wing, so no I didn't realize that. My bad

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FR-S2GT86 01-18-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3400466)
If it was a dedicated track car built for TA yes.

Look at the Superbird's rear wing for example.


And look at how many of those Superbirds and Daytonas sat for years on the dealer lots, unsold. There was a reason for that, and price DEFINITELY was not it.

FR-S2GT86 01-18-2021 12:10 PM

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And while he's bolting those parts on, he may as well get one of those Snap, Krackle, Pop tunes..... hmmm......that noise sure sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before.......

Oh, I remember.......

RICE KRISPIES!!!

soundman98 01-18-2021 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3400463)
Doesn’t make it any less horrid-looking. Would you ever do that to your ride?

lol, you're asking the wrong person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3400466)
If it was a dedicated track car built for TA yes.

Look at the Superbird's rear wing for example.

the main reason that my pickup truck does not have a superbird replica wing on the back right now is specifically because my garage is too short to allow for the correct scale.

if i could find a logical reason to put a front spoiler like that on my street-driven car, i absolutely would.


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